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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]ECNL destroyed the youth soccer landscape and is now a domino effect on the NL. ECNL blew up the HS recruiting and ODP program.[/quote]

ODP should be the only route to USWNT.
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But now ODP is a shell of itself.  It's just pay to play 2.0 nowadays.[/quote]

True, but it doesn’t have to be that way. In terms of developing player, the European model is not the only way. What are they doing in Brazil and Argentina? [/quote]

Sending kids to develop in Europe? [/quote]

Yep. There is a side by side comparison of a Spanish player vs a US player from u17 to present. The Spanish player was at Barca at 19 playing in their system, under great coaches, playing against top talent at practice and in games, playing in Champions league games with 90,000 people, etc. The US player was in college soccer. [/quote]

That's BS. The top American 19 years olds are playing in Europe [/quote]

Name the 19 year old American women players who are in Europe. There are on two players on the USWNT that play in Europe. [/quote]

Only two?  Are you forgetting Mia Fishel?  Or even a young Lily Yohannes who is only 16 and plays for Ajax?[/quote]

Lily doesn’t play for usynt, went to multiple camps, was told she didn’t fit the “athletic” category. Made Ajax, became a star, now on the path to getting a passport with Netherlands. Judging by how they performed last WC, they will be a strong unit.[/quote]

Right.  Regardless, what was mentioned was 'name the 19 year old American women players in Europe.'

Even going off the idea that they only knew of 2 NT players over there, they probably thought of only Horan, who has been there for a while now and Fox who just got there recently.  Probably didn't even know about Mia Fishel who took the road less traveled for whatever reason, likely looked over often just like Lily Yohannes.  Can't forget Kristie Mewis either who recently now just got an opportunity overseas.

Point being is that just based off of those players alone you can see that there's no clear path to even get over to Europe but there's the ability to.  There are plenty of players here that even grow up here and end up being able to play on the international stage but often take different routes.  How many girls played on that Philippine NT were essentially homegrown US players?  I think it was at least 75 percent of that roster.[/quote]

[b]This shows that the problem in the US isn’t development, it’s scouting.  Look at the MEX team that beat the US. At least 1/3 of the team is dual nat American or played college soccer in the US or both. The US is still, BY FAR, the leader when it comes to women’s soccer talent and even skill. [/b]Sometimes this happens in spite of the coaching, but it’s overwhelmingly true. The fact remains that the sheer volume of players and resources poured into girl’s soccer in the US pretty much guarantees a leadership position. At present there is simply no economic incentive for clubs in the rest of the world to develop better women’s domestic development.

The USWNT and our domestic scouting is not up to snuff right now. Basically, a kid needs to get into the pool at 13, and then just hang. Kids who develop late, or somehow don’t catch a scout’s eye just head off to play in college. I don’t know how you fix that in a country the size of the US, but anyone who has been to an ECNL/GA showcase has seen two dozen kids who could probably develop into the next generation of USWNT. They are out there, but our nat team doesn’t seem to know how to make the network function.[/quote]

Oh my good no! Mexico is ranked in the mid 30’s with teams like Vietnam and the Philippines. The US is not the the leader when it comes to women’s soccer talent specifically skilled players. 
https://www.theguardian.com/football/ng-interactive/2024/jan/09/the-100-best-female-footballers-in-the-world-2023
Two US players in the the top 25(Smith 18 and Horan 21), Naomi Girma 36, Trinity Rodman 50, Alex Morgan 53(lol), Lynn Williams
Gotham 63 and Alyssa Thompson 95.

Don’t like the guardian because it is obvious bias toward foreign players and what do they know about soccer!

https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_/id/39050145/2023-best-50-women-soccer-players-ranked-world

4 US players make the top 50. The highest 13.Sophia Smith. The next highest 21. Naomi Girma.
Spain 6 in the top 20. 
Only 1 NWSL player in the top 20(though on Girma is 21)

Other interesting players

4. Linda Caicedo : Colombia
Club: Real Madrid
Age: 18

5. Salma Paralluelo
Country: Spain
Club: Barcelona
Age: 19
Position: Forward

10. Olga Carmona
Country: Spain
Club: Real Madrid
Age: 23

The best women soccer is being played in La Liga Barcelona and Real Madrid with the SL clearly second. [/quote]

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