professors are leaving florida - and turning down job offers in florida - because of desantis

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!

Wow! You do know that ecology is a science, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Florida’s colleges are generally mediocre at best, in any event. But tenure track jobs are quite rare indeed—old farts teaching into their 80s and the repulsive treatment of adjuncts.

UF is excellent as state schools go.

No shortage of professors will take those spots of others turn them down. Higher education has a massive surplus of phds looking for teaching jobs.

If UF is “excellent as state schools go,” what the hell happened to other state schools?

UF has always been a top ranked school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh no, what will Florida ever do without ecology and social justice professors!

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UF has really been rising in the rankings and just behind Uva. for public universities, so I think this is all B.S. And who cares anyway if the woke profs get driven out? That's a good thing. Maybe we can get back to actual education.

It’s not just driving out woke profs. It’s making people even in pre med and social science fields worried about accepting jobs there. It’s hard to completely avoid potentially controversial topics in most fields, and it’s not fun to worry about saying the “wrong” thing or giving the “wrong” type of assignment. Academic freedom has always been a really important part of the job. Why risk it if you’re a strong candidate with other options elsewhere?

[Anonymous]

It's not just college professors that are leaving--public school teachers are leaving as well.

"Florida has 5,294 teacher vacancies, the state education association says, compared with 2,217 vacancies in January 2019 when Gov. Ron DeSantis took office. Teachers say they are leaving because of low pay and DeSantis' education policies, dubbed the 'war on woke.'"

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-combats-colossal-teacher-shortage-1793928#:~:text=Florida%20has%205%2C294%20teacher%20vacancies,the%20%22war%20on%20woke.%22

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just college professors that are leaving--public school teachers are leaving as well.

"Florida has 5,294 teacher vacancies, the state education association says, compared with 2,217 vacancies in January 2019 when Gov. Ron DeSantis took office. Teachers say they are leaving because of low pay and DeSantis' education policies, dubbed the 'war on woke.'"

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-combats-colossal-teacher-shortage-1793928#:~:text=Florida%20has%205%2C294%20teacher%20vacancies,the%20%22war%20on%20woke.%22

Voucher time.

An explosion of private options would be fantastic for education.

[Anonymous]

It's fine if people who are politically progressive leave Florida. People shouldn't have to be uncomfortable with the policies of their state when there are other states that may be a match. Florida is the top destination for transplants, so presumably these people will be replaced with new folks who are happier with Florida's policies. I think this political segregation is a good thing, and is not a problem. Live and let live.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:UF has really been rising in the rankings and just behind Uva. for public universities, so I think this is all B.S. And who cares anyway if the woke profs get driven out? That's a good thing. Maybe we can get back to actual education.

It’s not just driving out woke profs. It’s making people even in pre med and social science fields worried about accepting jobs there. It’s hard to completely avoid potentially controversial topics in most fields, and it’s not fun to worry about saying the “wrong” thing or giving the “wrong” type of assignment. Academic freedom has always been a really important part of the job. Why risk it if you’re a strong candidate with other options elsewhere?

Those people would be happier in places like New Jersey. It's okay. There's a lid for every pot.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fine if people who are politically progressive leave Florida. People shouldn't have to be uncomfortable with the policies of their state when there are other states that may be a match. Florida is the top destination for transplants, so presumably these people will be replaced with new folks who are happier with Florida's policies. I think this political segregation is a good thing, and is not a problem. Live and let live.

Exactly. Wokism doesn’t need to rule us all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Florida’s colleges are generally mediocre at best, in any event. But tenure track jobs are quite rare indeed—old farts teaching into their 80s and the repulsive treatment of adjuncts.

UF is excellent as state schools go.

No shortage of professors will take those spots of others turn them down. Higher education has a massive surplus of phds looking for teaching jobs.

If UF is “excellent as state schools go,” what the hell happened to other state schools?

UF has always been a top ranked school.

Always? Nope.

[Anonymous]

Wow, liberal professors are worried they might pay a price if they say the wrong thing? That’s an outrage. They should be afforded the same wall-to-wall free speech protection that conservative professors get in blue states.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It's not just college professors that are leaving--public school teachers are leaving as well.

"Florida has 5,294 teacher vacancies, the state education association says, compared with 2,217 vacancies in January 2019 when Gov. Ron DeSantis took office. Teachers say they are leaving because of low pay and DeSantis' education policies, dubbed the 'war on woke.'"

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-combats-colossal-teacher-shortage-1793928#:~:text=Florida%20has%205%2C294%20teacher%20vacancies,the%20%22war%20on%20woke.%22

Voucher time.

An explosion of private options would be fantastic for education.

The state has a shortage of teachers. Vouchers won't make new teachers appear out of nowhere. You have to raise pay to get more teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not just college professors that are leaving--public school teachers are leaving as well.

"Florida has 5,294 teacher vacancies, the state education association says, compared with 2,217 vacancies in January 2019 when Gov. Ron DeSantis took office. Teachers say they are leaving because of low pay and DeSantis' education policies, dubbed the 'war on woke.'"

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-combats-colossal-teacher-shortage-1793928#:~:text=Florida%20has%205%2C294%20teacher%20vacancies,the%20%22war%20on%20woke.%22

Voucher time.

An explosion of private options would be fantastic for education.

All that does is make grifters rich.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's fine if people who are politically progressive leave Florida. People shouldn't have to be uncomfortable with the policies of their state when there are other states that may be a match. Florida is the top destination for transplants, so presumably these people will be replaced with new folks who are happier with Florida's policies. I think this political segregation is a good thing, and is not a problem. Live and let live.

This should go great with no OBgyns. Good luck! 🤞

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's fine if people who are politically progressive leave Florida. People shouldn't have to be uncomfortable with the policies of their state when there are other states that may be a match. Florida is the top destination for transplants, so presumably these people will be replaced with new folks who are happier with Florida's policies. I think this political segregation is a good thing, and is not a problem. Live and let live.

People shouldn’t have to be driven out of their home state.