Gender Tropes, Reluctant Truths

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

This is ridiculous. Everyone has someone holding them accountable. A mother home with her children has a ton of autonomy. Taking care of kids, home, and work is actual work and we know this because you have to pay an arm and a leg to get someone else to do it.

[Anonymous]

work should have been meals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

I think pp's traditional lifestyle choice is mostly fine except if she has sons, they better not enter adulthood thinking household and childcare is excusively a female domain.. they won't fare well in the dating market anymore

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

I think pp's traditional lifestyle choice is mostly fine except if she has sons, they better not enter adulthood thinking household and childcare is excusively a female domain.. they won't fare well in the dating market anymore

Meh. Just have the boys go to one of those churches where girls are told that Jesus wants them to take care of the kids & obey their husbands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

This is ridiculous. Everyone has someone holding them accountable. A mother home with her children has a ton of autonomy. Taking care of kids, home, and work is actual work and we know this because you have to pay an arm and a leg to get someone else to do it.

That’s not reflected in the power balance and work distribution.

It’s reinforcing gender stereotypes and not providing good role models for the kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

I think pp's traditional lifestyle choice is mostly fine except if she has sons, they better not enter adulthood thinking household and childcare is excusively a female domain.. they won't fare well in the dating market anymore

Meh. Just have the boys go to one of those churches where girls are told that Jesus wants them to take care of the kids & obey their husbands.

Being a handmaiden isn’t a good role model.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

Traditional roles that reinforce the gender stereotypes.

You’d be independent if you had your own life with significant responsibilities/achievements outside of the home. But you’ve limited your role to inside your home.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

This is ridiculous. Everyone has someone holding them accountable. A mother home with her children has a ton of autonomy. Taking care of kids, home, and work is actual work and we know this because you have to pay an arm and a leg to get someone else to do it.

That’s not reflected in the power balance and work distribution.

It’s reinforcing gender stereotypes and not providing good role models for the kids.

There is nothing wrong first of all with gender stereotypes or the opposite. What is wrong is toxic behavior which can happen with both scenarios. I am more concerned about toxic behavior. Anyone who has been a parent can typically easily see that most professions and jobs are easier than parenting. Also that they have more control with parenting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

This is ridiculous. Everyone has someone holding them accountable. A mother home with her children has a ton of autonomy. Taking care of kids, home, and work is actual work and we know this because you have to pay an arm and a leg to get someone else to do it.

That’s not reflected in the power balance and work distribution.

It’s reinforcing gender stereotypes and not providing good role models for the kids.

There is nothing wrong first of all with gender stereotypes or the opposite. What is wrong is toxic behavior which can happen with both scenarios. I am more concerned about toxic behavior. Anyone who has been a parent can typically easily see that most professions and jobs are easier than parenting. Also that they have more control with parenting.

Toxic behavior *and* stereotypes are bad.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

Traditional roles that reinforce the gender stereotypes.

You’d be independent if you had your own life with significant responsibilities/achievements outside of the home. But you’ve limited your role to inside your home.

Oh, please, tell me what your significant achievements are outside of the home. 99% of the people on here are middle manager feds, self-important NGO employees, and cogs in the machine of giant companies. The idea that you are some freedom fighter for women's rights because you slump over some desk 37.5 hours a week is a joke.

I think that PP's work raising children is about a thousand times more important on a societal level, not to mention spiritual level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

Traditional roles that reinforce the gender stereotypes.

You’d be independent if you had your own life with significant responsibilities/achievements outside of the home. But you’ve limited your role to inside your home.

What is with all of the assumptions? What significant responsibilities do you have that I don't? You have no idea what my achievements are. My role is not limited to inside the house, I handle a lot of the day to day stuff, but I am not chained to the house by any means.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

Traditional roles that reinforce the gender stereotypes.

You’d be independent if you had your own life with significant responsibilities/achievements outside of the home. But you’ve limited your role to inside your home.

What is with all of the assumptions? What significant responsibilities do you have that I don't? You have no idea what my achievements are. My role is not limited to inside the house, I handle a lot of the day to day stuff, but I am not chained to the house by any means.

Who does the cooking, cleaning, laundry, doctor appts, etc?

Your kids see what they see. “Traditional roles” just reinforce gender stereotypes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

Traditional roles that reinforce the gender stereotypes.

You’d be independent if you had your own life with significant responsibilities/achievements outside of the home. But you’ve limited your role to inside your home.

What is with all of the assumptions? What significant responsibilities do you have that I don't? You have no idea what my achievements are. My role is not limited to inside the house, I handle a lot of the day to day stuff, but I am not chained to the house by any means.

Who does the cooking, cleaning, laundry, doctor appts, etc?

Your kids see what they see. “Traditional roles” just reinforce gender stereotypes.

You are triggered by gender stereotypes. They work out well for many people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Self-confident women don’t want “traditionalism”. That’s a mechanism to control women.

I have a “traditional” marriage there is nothing controlling about it. It was my choice. I have a very good life;

Your poor kids.

Why my poor kids?

Reinforced stereotypes & lack of role models.

How is this reinforcing stereotypes? I like being there/picking kids when kids up from school. I like entertaining/hosting/cooking. I enjoy spoiling my husband and he enjoys spoiling me, we have fun and have a great marriage.

Why I am I not role model? I was successful very young, DH is successful, there is no need for both of us to work. Prioritizing, my family time and doing things I enjoy has improved my mental health dramatically. I am not lazy and sitting around all day watching TV, drinking wine, eating cake.

We are specs in a huge universe, outside of very small group of people no one is gong to remember what we did in our careers or care what we accomplished. And in 1000 years even the legacy of current presidents will be mostly unknown.
Having a career outside of the home doesn’t make you a role model. Being a kind, empathetic and well rounded person is the type of role model I fell that I am.

Your kids are learning that women take care of the kids/home/cooking and men work and “spoil” their families. They don’t see you as an independent, successful person. You are an accessory to your DH.

You are happy with your choices, but you are reinforcing stereotypes and not providing a role model of a strong, independent woman.

Do you think an income separate from your husbands is the only thing that makes you independent. How am I not successful, is have it a job outside of the home the only thing that makes someone successful?

I am no one’s “accessory”. And if you read what I wrote; I said we spoil each other in different ways, I didn’t say what those way were, so stop jumping to conclusions.

You have a very narrow minded view of what can take place in a loving, respectful marriage where roles were disused and expectations were mutual agreed upon. We communicated all of this openly.

Traditional roles that reinforce the gender stereotypes.

You’d be independent if you had your own life with significant responsibilities/achievements outside of the home. But you’ve limited your role to inside your home.

What is with all of the assumptions? What significant responsibilities do you have that I don't? You have no idea what my achievements are. My role is not limited to inside the house, I handle a lot of the day to day stuff, but I am not chained to the house by any means.

Who does the cooking, cleaning, laundry, doctor appts, etc?

Your kids see what they see. “Traditional roles” just reinforce gender stereotypes.

Yes, better to simply avoid taking care of your kids lest they get ideas of women being nurturing.