Hurricane Ian's effect on Florida voting

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳


Completely agree. People are stupid.

That being said, since we know people are stupid, it's time to redesign the cone drawing. People see that shape and instead of correctly interpreting it as the probable path of the storm (hence why it grows wider with time), they interpret it as the actual storm path, with its wind extension! It's a VERY common mistake. They don't bother to read the fine print that hurricane-force winds can extend beyond the cone. The communications people at National Hurricane Center need to come up with a very clear depiction of the diameter of the hurricane-force winds, *all along the projected path*. This means they need to customize the width of the cone to each hurricane. Surely they can do this very, very minor adjustment!

And then it's up to local news media to plaster the updated projections in their respective counties.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳


Completely agree. People are stupid.

That being said, since we know people are stupid, it's time to redesign the cone drawing. People see that shape and instead of correctly interpreting it as the probable path of the storm (hence why it grows wider with time), they interpret it as the actual storm path, with its wind extension! It's a VERY common mistake. They don't bother to read the fine print that hurricane-force winds can extend beyond the cone. The communications people at National Hurricane Center need to come up with a very clear depiction of the diameter of the hurricane-force winds, *all along the projected path*. This means they need to customize the width of the cone to each hurricane. Surely they can do this very, very minor adjustment!

And then it's up to local news media to plaster the updated projections in their respective counties.

Were the Lee county officials who didn’t give an evacuation order also unable to understand what the cone meant? It’s not reasonable to expect regular folks to be meteorologists. They look the most government officials for good info and when the give officials do t give it, the blame lies with the government officials.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Well people who are homeless from the storm will not be able to vote and no mail in voting. Everyone will have to go to there regular voting place. Lol


I will ignore the LOL and repeat the question.

Is there a precedence of this type of timing. Considering GOP has railed against mail-in voting and FL probably has burdensome voting rules, how would this play out? I do not trust Desantis and FL republicans that they would do the right things.


The word is ā€œprecedent,ā€ not ā€œprecedence.ā€
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳


Completely agree. People are stupid.

That being said, since we know people are stupid, it's time to redesign the cone drawing. People see that shape and instead of correctly interpreting it as the probable path of the storm (hence why it grows wider with time), they interpret it as the actual storm path, with its wind extension! It's a VERY common mistake. They don't bother to read the fine print that hurricane-force winds can extend beyond the cone. The communications people at National Hurricane Center need to come up with a very clear depiction of the diameter of the hurricane-force winds, *all along the projected path*. This means they need to customize the width of the cone to each hurricane. Surely they can do this very, very minor adjustment!

And then it's up to local news media to plaster the updated projections in their respective counties.


PP here. Good point! I agree.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳


Completely agree. People are stupid.

That being said, since we know people are stupid, it's time to redesign the cone drawing. People see that shape and instead of correctly interpreting it as the probable path of the storm (hence why it grows wider with time), they interpret it as the actual storm path, with its wind extension! It's a VERY common mistake. They don't bother to read the fine print that hurricane-force winds can extend beyond the cone. The communications people at National Hurricane Center need to come up with a very clear depiction of the diameter of the hurricane-force winds, *all along the projected path*. This means they need to customize the width of the cone to each hurricane. Surely they can do this very, very minor adjustment!

And then it's up to local news media to plaster the updated projections in their respective counties.

Were the Lee county officials who didn’t give an evacuation order also unable to understand what the cone meant? It’s not reasonable to expect regular folks to be meteorologists. They look the most government officials for good info and when the give officials do t give it, the blame lies with the government officials.


Regular folks dont have to be meteorologists. 150 mph should get anyone's attention, except for persons with significant cognitive impairments or dementia.
Anonymous
When people hear "It could hit anywhere along the SW coast of FL but it looks like it's going to hit Tampa" all they really hear is "it's going to hit Tampa".

Tampa is about 150 miles N of Ft. Myers and there was relatively very little damage to Tampa. That's why the people of Ft. Myers thought it would hit 150 miles N and there would be relatively little damage in Ft. Myers.

It's possible that in the future people will realize that the cone means it could make landfall pretty much anywhere in the cone, but actually it's unlikely they will do things differently after a few years go by because people have short memories. And hurricanes have a nasty habit of turning with no warning and not enough time for authorities to execute an evacuation order in the new landfall target.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The destruction based on the Hurricane Ian is devastating. So, many homes and infrastructure destroyed. We are little over month away from midterm. Based on the destruction, people would be displaced and voting areas would be closed etc.

How would this affect the election. Is there a precedence? Can these folks who have lost a lot vote. Has Desantis and his AG have a plan to protect voting rights of the disaster affected folks? Are they going to play games to depress Democrat voting area not being supported where as republicans voting area being given alternatives?


You're post tells me you care nothing about the actual people of Florida and what they are going through and only about politics. If you’d ever been through this you’d know exactly where their head is and what will or will not happen.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳


If you were following the political news carefully prior to the hurricane hitting FL, you will here a lot of stories starting about DeSantis, how he’s going to be unprepared, etc. The narrative was started early and you could see where they were going. The reality is, is some people don’t want to leave their homes for numerous reasons, and won’t regardless of evacuation orders. Leftists comparing this to New Orleans is hilarious - in that case the mayor of New Orleans kept the money meant for evacuation and did not send the buses to evacuate people until much too late. I believe he was jailed due to embezzlement.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I can't imagine what people like Abby were thinking and doing in the days leading up to Ian's contact with Florida. There were weather and news reports on tv, radio, internet, text communication, emails, and conversations with friends. You hear about an almost Category 5 hurricane with winds of 150 mph heading for Tampa, just 90 miles north of your home on the coast. You think you'll just hang around a beach area until someone orders you to evacuate?! 😳


People were swimming in the ocean, enjoying the weather. You can’t account for that.
Anonymous
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Such crap.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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Wow really?

2020 election results
Trump 65.58%. 8,313 votes
Biden 33.60%. 4,259 votes

Come back in 3 months.
Anonymous
^^ DeSoto County Florida county seat is Arcadia
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When people hear "It could hit anywhere along the SW coast of FL but it looks like it's going to hit Tampa" all they really hear is "it's going to hit Tampa".

Tampa is about 150 miles N of Ft. Myers and there was relatively very little damage to Tampa. That's why the people of Ft. Myers thought it would hit 150 miles N and there would be relatively little damage in Ft. Myers.

It's possible that in the future people will realize that the cone means it could make landfall pretty much anywhere in the cone, but actually it's unlikely they will do things differently after a few years go by because people have short memories. And hurricanes have a nasty habit of turning with no warning and not enough time for authorities to execute an evacuation order in the new landfall target.



This one showed signs of turning as early as Sunday. The county officials did not follow their own hurricane plan - and people died because of it. Yet all they want to talk about is how there's nothing more they could have done. They could have, and they should have, and I pray they will be held accountable for their utter failure to protect the people they are supposed to serve.

https://www.tampabay.com/hurricane/2022/10/02/sheriff-counts-42-deaths-lee-county-stands-by-ian-evacuation-orders/

Then lil Ronnie D and his wife showed up at a spot where evacuees are being fed wearing campaign vests. Heartless, incompetent ghouls.



The idea that they spent taxpayer money to evacuate refugee seekers from Texas to Martha's Vineyard right before this hurricane, but couldn't find any way to help the people in the state, is grotesque.
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