Definitive Top 25 list

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

UNC Chapel hill and Wake Forest too

UNC and Wake Forest would be a tier below.

It's more like with the group of Boston College, Georgia Tech, etc.

[Anonymous]

Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's always discussion on the forum about what are the top schools and I'm here to help. I combined both the USNews and WSJ rankings to create a more accurate and complete ranking. These two are the most reputable in circulation thus why others weren't used.

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU

+1 a list with 5 #1s is silly. And frankly Yale and Princeton are on the same level as Harvard or standard.

Nonsensical. You are stating Yale, Princeton, Harvard and Stanford are all on the same level yet you are not...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's always discussion on the forum about what are the top schools and I'm here to help. I combined both the USNews and WSJ rankings to create a more accurate and complete ranking. These two are the most reputable in circulation thus why others weren't used.

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU

+1 a list with 5 #1s is silly. And frankly Yale and Princeton are on the same level as Harvard or standard.

Nonsensical. You are stating Yale, Princeton, Harvard and Stanford are all on the same level yet you are not...

I meant to say NOT the same level. Autocorrect changed it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

1.Harvard
2. tie MIT
2. tie Stanford
4. tie Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia
8. Penn
9. Chicago
10. Duke
11. Northwestern
12. Dartmouth
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

+1 OP has the better list by far. Although I think USC is too high. It's otherwise good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's always discussion on the forum about what are the top schools and I'm here to help. I combined both the USNews and WSJ rankings to create a more accurate and complete ranking. These two are the most reputable in circulation thus why others weren't used.

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU

Well, UVA is tied with CMU on USNWR for no 25, so I'm gathering your kid didn't get into UVA?

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. 1470 is the avg. SAT score. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores.

This list is a scam because it is all about total number of applicants and acceptances. More students apply to some of these schools and fewer to some of the others, but the those applying to 'the fewer' are candidates with higher credentials on average.

Seriously. I got into an Ivy and rejected from Georgetown. Most of my Michigan friends didn't even apply to Ivies or Georgetown because they didn't meet their 'averages', but now there are no test scores required UMich--that is a game changer and even lower stats are getting in.

If it is in terms of chances of getting accepted, this list is whacked.

50% of GU admits had over a 1500 SAT score. It is much harder to get into.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

+1 OP has the better list by far. Although I think USC is too high. It's otherwise good.

-1 then the list becomes a top 26 list which is fine but the thread is top 25. Who will you cut to include Mich?

[Anonymous]

1) Harvard
2) UVA

Rest don’t matter

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

Who do you cut from this list to allow Michigan?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking