Definitive Top 25 list

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

Who do you cut from this list to allow Michigan?

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU
Michigan is there. All the top schools are here except Berkeley and UVA. You can argue UVA is tier two with UNC Gatech etc.

Problems with your list:
Duke too high at 6. Should be 8-10.
Johns Hopkins too high at 8. Should be 13-16.
Northwestern too high at 8. Should be 11-14.
UPenn too low at 11. Should be 6-8.
Brown too high at 11. Should be 13-15.
Dartmouth too low at 14. Should be 10-12.
Georgetown too low at 25. Should be 20-23.
NYU too high at 25. Should be 27-30.
Notre Dame too low at 22. Should be 17-20.
Wash U too high at 17. Should be 19-21.

Did that come down from the Mountaintop?

Don’t pay them any mind. They’re completely clueless.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

Notre Dame has happier students. I think that impacts rankings, no? Also, Wall Street placement is pretty strong for ND if I recall. Also I like checking the Payscale ROI ranking, which has Notre Dame ranked at 80 and Emory at 150. https://www.payscale.com/college-roi Earning potential and graduation rate seem to be driving this...Emory with only a 90% graduation rate and ND with a 96% grad rate. I think ND students fare much better in general out in the world due to the outstanding alumni network that Emory most certainly lacks.

Also, you talk about acceptance rate...which does not impact rankings. ND's acceptance rate for class of 2026 was 13%. Emory's was 19%. Not that it matters, but not sure why you even bring this up.

You lie a lot. You do know Emory is in the south an it's grad stay there about 50% of them infact. That means salary potential is lower. Also Emorys acceptance rate is 10.6 percent seen here so don't know why your using old data for Emory but new data for ND.
https://emorywheel.com/emory-admits-9-of-regular-decision-applicants/

Emory and ND make the top 25 for wall street placement
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
Emorys business school is also ranked higher for undergrad and grad. Let alone nursing, healthcare, and medicine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

Notre Dame has happier students. I think that impacts rankings, no? Also, Wall Street placement is pretty strong for ND if I recall. Also I like checking the Payscale ROI ranking, which has Notre Dame ranked at 80 and Emory at 150. https://www.payscale.com/college-roi Earning potential and graduation rate seem to be driving this...Emory with only a 90% graduation rate and ND with a 96% grad rate. I think ND students fare much better in general out in the world due to the outstanding alumni network that Emory most certainly lacks.

Also, you talk about acceptance rate...which does not impact rankings. ND's acceptance rate for class of 2026 was 13%. Emory's was 19%. Not that it matters, but not sure why you even bring this up.

You lie a lot. You do know Emory is in the south an it's grad stay there about 50% of them infact. That means salary potential is lower. Also Emorys acceptance rate is 10.6 percent seen here so don't know why your using old data for Emory but new data for ND.
https://emorywheel.com/emory-admits-9-of-regular-decision-applicants/

Emory and ND make the top 25 for wall street placement
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
Emorys business school is also ranked higher for undergrad and grad. Let alone nursing, healthcare, and medicine.

On your link
ND #14
Emory #25

Here, https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
ND #9
Emory #30

For Undergrad Business ranking https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
ND #12
Emory $14

One thing for sure is for business, ND >> Emory

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

Notre Dame has happier students. I think that impacts rankings, no? Also, Wall Street placement is pretty strong for ND if I recall. Also I like checking the Payscale ROI ranking, which has Notre Dame ranked at 80 and Emory at 150. https://www.payscale.com/college-roi Earning potential and graduation rate seem to be driving this...Emory with only a 90% graduation rate and ND with a 96% grad rate. I think ND students fare much better in general out in the world due to the outstanding alumni network that Emory most certainly lacks.

Also, you talk about acceptance rate...which does not impact rankings. ND's acceptance rate for class of 2026 was 13%. Emory's was 19%. Not that it matters, but not sure why you even bring this up.

You lie a lot. You do know Emory is in the south an it's grad stay there about 50% of them infact. That means salary potential is lower. Also Emorys acceptance rate is 10.6 percent seen here so don't know why your using old data for Emory but new data for ND.
https://emorywheel.com/emory-admits-9-of-regular-decision-applicants/

Emory and ND make the top 25 for wall street placement
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
Emorys business school is also ranked higher for undergrad and grad. Let alone nursing, healthcare, and medicine.

On your link
ND #14
Emory #25

Here, https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
ND #9
Emory #30

For Undergrad Business ranking https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
ND #12
Emory $14

One thing for sure is for business, ND >> Emory

Yea no, for business it's debatable...
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

Notre Dame has happier students. I think that impacts rankings, no? Also, Wall Street placement is pretty strong for ND if I recall. Also I like checking the Payscale ROI ranking, which has Notre Dame ranked at 80 and Emory at 150. https://www.payscale.com/college-roi Earning potential and graduation rate seem to be driving this...Emory with only a 90% graduation rate and ND with a 96% grad rate. I think ND students fare much better in general out in the world due to the outstanding alumni network that Emory most certainly lacks.

Also, you talk about acceptance rate...which does not impact rankings. ND's acceptance rate for class of 2026 was 13%. Emory's was 19%. Not that it matters, but not sure why you even bring this up.

You lie a lot. You do know Emory is in the south an it's grad stay there about 50% of them infact. That means salary potential is lower. Also Emorys acceptance rate is 10.6 percent seen here so don't know why your using old data for Emory but new data for ND.
https://emorywheel.com/emory-admits-9-of-regular-decision-applicants/

Emory and ND make the top 25 for wall street placement
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
Emorys business school is also ranked higher for undergrad and grad. Let alone nursing, healthcare, and medicine.

On your link
ND #14
Emory #25

Here, https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
ND #9
Emory #30

For Undergrad Business ranking https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
ND #12
Emory $14

One thing for sure is for business, ND >> Emory

Yea no, for business it's debatable...
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

That's MBA.

Nobody cares about MBA ranking when you go to a college and major in business.
You check how much of the undergrad program is target school by top consulting and finance firms and also undergrad business ranking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

Notre Dame has happier students. I think that impacts rankings, no? Also, Wall Street placement is pretty strong for ND if I recall. Also I like checking the Payscale ROI ranking, which has Notre Dame ranked at 80 and Emory at 150. https://www.payscale.com/college-roi Earning potential and graduation rate seem to be driving this...Emory with only a 90% graduation rate and ND with a 96% grad rate. I think ND students fare much better in general out in the world due to the outstanding alumni network that Emory most certainly lacks.

Also, you talk about acceptance rate...which does not impact rankings. ND's acceptance rate for class of 2026 was 13%. Emory's was 19%. Not that it matters, but not sure why you even bring this up.

You lie a lot. You do know Emory is in the south an it's grad stay there about 50% of them infact. That means salary potential is lower. Also Emorys acceptance rate is 10.6 percent seen here so don't know why your using old data for Emory but new data for ND.
https://emorywheel.com/emory-admits-9-of-regular-decision-applicants/

Emory and ND make the top 25 for wall street placement
https://www.collegetransitions.com/dataverse/top-feeders-banking
Emorys business school is also ranked higher for undergrad and grad. Let alone nursing, healthcare, and medicine.

On your link
ND #14
Emory #25

Here, https://www.peakframeworks.com/post/ib-target-schools
ND #9
Emory #30

For Undergrad Business ranking https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/business-overall
ND #12
Emory $14

One thing for sure is for business, ND >> Emory

Yea no, for business it's debatable...
https://www.usnews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-business-schools/mba-rankings

That's MBA.

Nobody cares about MBA ranking when you go to a college and major in business.
You check how much of the undergrad program is target school by top consulting and finance firms and also undergrad business ranking.

Lol so undergrad business is the reason ND is better. Despite 12 and 14 aren't much different. I'll give you undergrad business. But maybe we can look at the undergrad nursing while you're at it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

Who do you cut from this list to allow Michigan?

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU
Michigan is there. All the top schools are here except Berkeley and UVA. You can argue UVA is tier two with UNC Gatech etc.

Problems with your list:
Duke too high at 6. Should be 8-10.
Johns Hopkins too high at 8. Should be 13-16.
Northwestern too high at 8. Should be 11-14.
UPenn too low at 11. Should be 6-8.
Brown too high at 11. Should be 13-15.
Dartmouth too low at 14. Should be 10-12.
Georgetown too low at 25. Should be 20-23.
NYU too high at 25. Should be 27-30.
Notre Dame too low at 22. Should be 17-20.
Wash U too high at 17. Should be 19-21.

Did that come down from the Mountaintop?

From commonsense and critical Thinking!
What are your critiques?

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

1.Harvard
1. tie MIT
3. Stanford
3. tie Yale
3. tie Princeton
6. Cal Tech
7. Columbia [got caught cheating on the US News Rankings survey so not exactly sure if they should be even lower]
8. UPenn
9. Duke
10. U Chicago
11. Dartmouth
12. Northwestern
13. Johns Hopkins
14. Brown
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Rice
18. Notre Dame
18. tie Berkley
28. tie Emory
21. Washington U
22. USC
23. CMU
24. Georgetown
25. UCLA

There is no valid "top 25" list that doesn't include Michigan.

Who do you cut from this list to allow Michigan?

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU
Michigan is there. All the top schools are here except Berkeley and UVA. You can argue UVA is tier two with UNC Gatech etc.

Problems with your list:
Duke too high at 6. Should be 8-10.
Johns Hopkins too high at 8. Should be 13-16.
Northwestern too high at 8. Should be 11-14.
UPenn too low at 11. Should be 6-8.
Brown too high at 11. Should be 13-15.
Dartmouth too low at 14. Should be 10-12.
Georgetown too low at 25. Should be 20-23.
NYU too high at 25. Should be 27-30.
Notre Dame too low at 22. Should be 17-20.
Wash U too high at 17. Should be 19-21.

Did that come down from the Mountaintop?

Don’t pay them any mind. They’re completely clueless.

Did your statement come down from the Mountaintop?

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Anonymous wrote:Schools that make the top 25 on both USnews and WSJ should be ranked higher on the combined list. That means Emory should be higher than ND as Emory is top 25 on both and ND is not. Also NYU is top 25 on neither while Berkeley is top 25 on one.
1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. CMU
21. Umichigan
22.USC
22. tie Notre Dame
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. UC Berkeley
It should look more like this!

Bumping this funny thread but I agree with this. logic makes sense

[Anonymous]

There's no such thing as definitive, but T25ish makes more sense than T20.

For the T25ish, I would include the T20 on USN&WR + Emory + Georgetown + UCB + USC + UMich + Carnegie Mellon

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hahaha I went to both NYU and UVA and in no way shape or form is NYU better.

I went to NYU and studied business. I would want my kid to choose NYU over UVA. My kid is only 11 though. I think he wants to go to school in California.

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Anonymous wrote:UCB, UCLA, Lac’s like Williams, Amherst are big omissions from your made up list.

Also, unrelated but I typically think of WUSTL, Emory and Tufts together. Not sure when the first two started to get more recognition but guess it relates to their grad programs (and they don’t have to “compete” in a city with Harvard and MIT, haha).

I didn't include LACs because that wouldn't be fair as USNews doesn't combine the lists. UCLA is there, UCB is overrated. Tufts had never been on WashU'd or Emorys level. Only in the minds of delusional new Englanders.

That’s funny. I’m from Ny and went to college and grad school in Boston. Wash U and Emory were not on my radar. They still aren’t. I went to Harvard.

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Anonymous wrote:UCB, UCLA, Lac’s like Williams, Amherst are big omissions from your made up list.

Also, unrelated but I typically think of WUSTL, Emory and Tufts together. Not sure when the first two started to get more recognition but guess it relates to their grad programs (and they don’t have to “compete” in a city with Harvard and MIT, haha).

I didn't include LACs because that wouldn't be fair as USNews doesn't combine the lists. UCLA is there, UCB is overrated. Tufts had never been on WashU'd or Emorys level. Only in the minds of delusional new Englanders.

That’s funny. I’m from Ny and went to college and grad school in Boston. Wash U and Emory were not on my radar. They still aren’t. I went to Harvard.

You are just one person. Nothing's funny about your personal thought.
WashU and Emory are T25. Tufts is not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's always discussion on the forum about what are the top schools and I'm here to help. I combined both the USNews and WSJ rankings to create a more accurate and complete ranking. These two are the most reputable in circulation thus why others weren't used.

1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. USC
20. tie CMU
22.Notre Dame
22. tie U Michigan
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. NYU

NYU, ha, ha, good laugh. Not even top 50

[Anonymous]

Two things for sure
1. NYU and UVA don't make the list
2. Emory is below ND