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Anonymous wrote:Egypt sees Hamas for the terrorists they are, as well. They have been destroying the tunnels between Gaza and Egypt, first flooding them with sewage.
http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/07/22/4249537/the-hamas-strategy-in-gaza.html


Ah, Egypt, another bastion of democracy, where journalists are jailed, churches burn and are looted while police idly stand by, and women are afraid to walk alone in the streets.

If Egypt does something, it must be completely justified. Israel is in good company.


The Middle East Friendship Chart

You should check this chart out, it's actually pretty informative and explains very well what is going on in the middle east. Hint: Look at who Egypt's friends are

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_world_/2014/07/17/the_middle_east_friendship_chart.html
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jsteele wrote:So, pro-Israel apologists, let's see if I have the clear:

1) None of you are sorry that 7 schools have been bombed killing tens of children;
2) It was actually Hamas that did it -- at least according to one Italian journalist whose story contradicts that of multiple other journalists and also doesn't account for the other six;
3) The IDF did it, but it was Hamas' fault for storing weapons in schools (note, there is no evidence weapons were stored in these schools);
4) The UN -- which has discovered and removed weapons from at least three schools -- can't be trusted to discover and remove weapons from schools.

So, this is is your story -- contradictory as it is -- and you are sticking to it, right?

If you cannot bring yourself to express sorrow over dead children, you really pretty despicable.


I have just started posting about this relatively recently and I am not an expert by far, but my point is that the Palestinians are responsible for that -- they are hiding weapons around children and innocents. I heard a Hamas guy being interviewed state that they were asking Palestinians to stay in their homes after Israel had asked them to leave because they were planning on bombing them. He was advising his own people to stay and be bombed. When the reporter asked if he didn't think that was immoral, he changed his wording, but not the content, to say they would stand their ground and not be pushed around by Israel.

I think you have to be a pretty big chump not to see their culpability in this situation.


This is a tactic to tell the world that the IDF cares about civilian lives so that when they kill civilians they can say, ‘We warned people, they didn’t leave, Hamas is using them as shields.’ This is completely ridiculous. They are saying, ‘We want the residents of the northern Gaza districts to leave their houses,’ but 250,000 people live in the northern Gaza districts. They are telling a quarter of a million people to leave their houses. That’s laughable. Where are they going to go? Not one single Gazan has come out and said they had been forced by Hamas to stay in places of danger and become unwilling human-shields......

Then again, 3 Muslim Women have been head of state in Muslim countries while America is still waiting for its first female president.... the idea that there is even a discussion in the US that she may be problematic for the office merely because she is a woman is a sign of how backward US politics is but hey, Muslim women can't laugh in public, talk about messed up priorities.....
Anonymous wrote:The far majority of Israelis, as noted in many polls, by a number of Israeli political parties and majority of jewish Americans, again, as noted in polls.

But you haven't answered my earlier question...why do you support Hamas and their tactics?

Side note: had you seen the social media tactics Hamas put out? You are using a few of their suggestions with your posts.


That is irrelevant since the Israeli government is against a 2 state solution. He said it no later than a few days ago.. As The Times of Israel reported, Mr. Netanyahu said he “could never, ever countenance a fully sovereign Palestinian state in the West Bank.”
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Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Actually, weapons storage depots are legitimate targets.


Not true in this case. Israel argues that it can invoke the right to self-defense under international law as defined in Article 51 of the UN Charter. The International Court of Justice, however, rejected this faulty legal interpretation in its 2004 Advisory Opinion. The ICJ explained that an armed attack that would trigger Article 51 must be attributable to a sovereign state, but the armed attacks by Palestinians emerge from within Israel’s jurisdictional control. Israel does have the right to defend itself against rocket attacks, but it must do so in accordance with occupation law and not other laws of war. Occupation law ensures greater protection for the civilian population.
Anonymous wrote:I don't care if it's one or 1,000 rockets in a given school. They are storing rockets in schools! They have wonderful tunnels, built with the cement Israel gave them. Why not store rockets there instead of schools? My goodness. The mentality of Hamas!


Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton told Fusion TV´s Jorge Ramos that part of the reason Hamas hides rockets in schools and civilian areas is "Gaza is small." "I´m not a military planner but Hamas puts it´s missiles, it´s rockets in civilian areas, part of it is Gaza is pretty small and its densely populated,"
Anonymous wrote:Muslima, plenty of us support the rights of the Palestinians and feel for their plight and want a legit 2 state solution. We want the Palestinians to have their own state and for there to be peace. Don't you think Hamas is a major obstacle for that to happen? I think even Jeff realizes that. Why do you continue to support Hamas and deny that they are the terrorists they are?


Who is "We"?
Anonymous wrote:
Muslima wrote:There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~


Our elected government would have to bomb themselves. Furthermore the parents of said children would not bring the kids of to the rooftop of that kindergarten. Remember, honor killings prove who value their own kids and who does not. And they are government sanctioned. In the US, honor killings and wiring up your kids is a punishable crime, not a badge of honor.


Is that the fairytale you tell yourself to sleep better at night? Show your evidence of children being on rooftops of shelters for honor killing and wired or stop making comments that just make you look ignorant.....
There is no evidence that Hamas fired any rockets from a school. There is evidence that rockets were stored in some schools. That doesn't justify bombing the schools, or shelters. If Criminals store weapons in a Washington DC Kindergarten, I guess you would then agree that the FBI is justified in bombing the Kindergarten because weapons were stored there. Ridiculous~
Anonymous wrote:How Hamas uses civilians against the Israelis. Make sure to go to the last page for their web trolling propaganda guidance:
http://grid.pjmedia.com/?cmd=view-show-profile-article&id=1934


To this date, there has been no evidence that Hamas uses Palestinian children as Human shields, zero evidence. The only evidence from the UN was that actually Israel was the one using Palestinian children as shields.......

Palestinian children tortured, used as shields by Israel: U.N.

A United Nations human rights body accused Israeli forces on Thursday of mistreating Palestinian children, including by torturing those in custody and using others as human shields.

It voiced deep concern at the "continuous use of Palestinian children as human shields and informants", saying 14 such cases had been reported between January 2010 and March 2013 alone.

Israeli soldiers had used Palestinian children to enter potentially dangerous buildings before them and to stand in front of military vehicles to deter stone-throwing, it said.

"Almost all those using children as human shields and informants have remained unpunished and the soldiers convicted for having forced at gunpoint a nine-year-old child to search bags suspected of containing explosives only received a suspended sentence of three months and were demoted," it said.


Source: http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/06/20/us-palestinian-israel-children-idUSBRE95J0FR20130620
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The Pope is considered the person who intercedes with God on behalf of mankind.


Catholic here. The above is not accurate, because it makes it sound like Catholics pray to the Pope, and that he in turn prays to God for them. As with other faiths, Catholics pray directly to God. The Pope is considered the spiritual leader of the church, going back to St. Peter. He is not a God or demi-god.



How about confessions? When you confess to the priest, does he intercede for you, if not, what's the idea behind it?
Anonymous wrote:I tried the buycott app. It's nice in theory, but I don't understand why some products are included. Why is Coca Cola so bad?


This is what I found : http://www.inminds.com/boycott-coca-cola.html

From 1966 Coca-Cola has been a staunch supporter of Israel. In 1997 the Government of Israel Economic Mission honored Coca-Cola at the Israel Trade Award Dinner for its continued support of Israel for the last 30 years and for refusing to abide by the Arab League boycott of Israel.
Every year Coca Cola bankrolls the American-Israel Chamber of Commerce Awards which honors companies that have contributed most to the Israeli economy. In 2009 a Coca-Cola sponsored award went to Israel’s Lobby AIPAC for its lobbying of the Senate to reject of the UN call for "immediate ceasefire" and endorse the continuation of the Israel military assault on Gaza.
In 2008 Coca-Cola tasked the Israeli venture capital Challenge Fund to locate suitable investments in Israel with a promise of "a blank cheque” . This agreement is exceptional in the Israeli venture capital industry.
In 2009 Coca-Cola hosted a special reception at the Coca-Cola world headquarters to honour Brigadier-General Ben-Eliezer. Ben-Eliezer is a wanted war criminal, during the Six-Day War his unit was responsible for the execution of over 300 Egyptian POWs. Under Sharon, Ben-Eliezer served as Defence Minister presiding over the massacre at Jenin.
Coca-Cola Israel owns dairy farms in the illegal Israeli settlements of Shadmot Mechola in the Jordan Valley and a plant in the industrial zone of Katzerin n the occupied Golan Heights.
Rami Rayan, 23, journalist was killed today in Gaza ( video, warning graphic)

That was extremely hard to watch. I can not imagine how terrifying it must be to live in a place under siege. There is no propaganda in this footage, that's the reality and it really makes you despair for humanity.



Rami Rayan, a Palestinian photojournalist, was killed today in an Israeli air strike on a busy market in Gaza.

The attack killed at least 16 people and wounded over 150 more. Rayan, a photographer reportedly working for a local website, was wearing a helmet and a vest marked "PRESS" when he was found among the dead in the Shijaiyah neighborhood of Gaza. His death was reported by BBC's Shahdi Alkashif

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/07/30/rami-rayan-killed-dead-gaza-attack_n_5634548.html
UN Official Chris Gunness Breaks Down On Air After School Bombing



"The rights of Palestinians, and even their children, are wholesale denied... and its appalling," Gunness, spokesman for the UN agency for Palestinian refugees (UNRWA), told Al Jazeera Arabic from Jerusalem. The interviewer appears to thank him for appearing, upon which Gunness breaks down and weeps.
There is an excellent app called Buycott, available for both Android and iPhone. It showcases many causes, not just Palestine-ISR You can use it to scan a product, it will look up the product, determine what brand it belongs to, and figure out what company owns that brand (and who owns that company, ad infinitum). It will then cross-check the product owners against the companies and brands included in the campaigns you've joined, in order to tell you if the scanned product conflicts with one of your campaign commitments.
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