Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trying to be cool? More like succeeding at it. Like I said, our oldest is bound for an Ivy League in the fall, and the other two take AP classes at their private high school. Our youngest plans to be a career officer in the military. What do your kids want to be, NASCAR drivers?

"Like I said" is a lower class expression. It'll go over big an an Ivy League.

If we are going to sit here and just nit pick each others shitty posting skills nice typo IDIOT! "AN AN" LOL You r retarted! Duhhh... I started out here trying to have some dialogue with you Philistines but since most of you have nothing better to do than complain instead of contributing then I guess that is what this message board is for.

And I'm not doing this in order to connect with my teenagers by letting them have a certain degree of freedom in this safe environment where they have adequate supervision and medical attention available immediately if anything were to happen. My wife works in the trauma center at Georgetown University Hospital and has for nearly 15 years. This is as safe and as controlled environment as they are likely to come across and I stand behind my decisions to give them this safe place.

Semper Fi!

The 60's was really the break...that was when all the real idiots started seeing the positive changes and freedoms that had started coming to people who were really being treated unjustly (blacks and women primarily) so they decided that they should be able to be more "free" and really the people being born in the 50's that really grew up in the 60's would be in the real problem group for that 70-80's stat that you dropped...so it was still fundamentally a problem with a lack of discipline...parents were too busy dropping acid and "starting revolutions" instead of keeping their kids in line.

I don't know what it is about you people shitting on my english...I have gone back and re read my posts...but no English is indeed my first language, I am in fact not a nanny (nice undercover racism there btw) and I don't have too much time on my hands. I come on here when I get a free second and respond to the people who contribute to the conversation and then to laugh at all the haters with nothing to say.

I'm not sure what was wrong stylistically or grammatically with my previous post and although I could be wrong about some of my historical "evidence" I presented...I thought segregation was alive and well then...if I am wrong and it was already done then I retract that portion of my statement.

If the only reason you are saying that I need to take a writing course is because I called somebody a pussy on the internet, then I am not interested.

Anonymous wrote:

dedicateddad wrote:Well, we have lots of guns in the house as well...and the majority of them are locked up in a gun safe with trigger locks...the rest of them are well hidden enough and in specific locations for optimum home defense. Nobody is going to break in my house and threaten my family while we have our unsupervised sexy beer parties!!!

Golf clap.

*Takes a bow and says Thank You*

OK maybe not everything....Segregation was not very cool....there was less access to information...but for the most part people would consider that era to be a much better time. I'm sorry I didn't know that I couldn't take a little license and use blanket terms here without some arrogant a-hole nitpicking everything. I'll take a writing course as soon as you learn that being a dick on the internet is weak and doing it anonymously is even weaker. I'm not on here to start fights and criticize peoples writing. I'm here to have discussion with other parents of teenaged kids so that I can share my perspective and listen to that of others. I guess I'm also here so that I can listen to idiots complain about bullshit. And by idiots....I am not counting those who disagree with my parenting style or opinions...just the ones who have nothing to contribute like the anonymous pussy who thinks I could benefit from a writing course.

People think back to the 50's as a time when everything was better. A simpler time when you could walk the streets at night with no fear, even in the district. Now it's the 2010's and for the last 30 years the things I notice that are different is that nobody is safe anywhere, kids are acting like savages all over the place, the school system is worthless because there is no respect for the administrators in the classroom and even the kids that want to get an education struggle to do so because of the crazy environment....and coincidentally nobody whoops their kids asses anymore. And I can't think about how many people I hear talking about how they don't understand why nobody has any respect anymore and why the kids are so far out of line as they send their stupid kid to another "time out". I took my own time out after I caught an ass whoopin because I didn't want to do anything else and I knew for sure that I wouldn't make the mistake of steppin outta line like that again. And I also want to address that my family used many methods of discipline when it was needed...including violence, guilt trippy discussions about "being disappointed" and forbidding me from doing things but the one that actually made me think about my actions and ACTUALLY ACT RIGHT was definitely the ass whoopins. 100% every time.

Well, we have lots of guns in the house as well...and the majority of them are locked up in a gun safe with trigger locks...the rest of them are well hidden enough and in specific locations for optimum home defense. Nobody is going to break in my house and threaten my family while we have our unsupervised sexy beer parties!!!

I'm actually shocked that so many of the people here see letting kids get some experience in controlled environments as such an evil thing.

My kids are asking about having an end of the school year party with maybe like 8-10 kids from their class. It is mixed boys and girls and they are asking about having beer for the party and I'm sure we will do it because we trust them to know what is right and what is wrong. Because we raised them right.

I feel like I was raised well and the people in my life really cared enough about me to knock sense and respect into me so that I wasn't like these kids I see nowadays talking back to their parents and acting up in public....I want to beat their children for them but of course that wouldn't fly...I really wish things were more like my own fathers time when your neighbors parents would whoop your ass, take you to your house and tell you why they beat your ass and then your family would beat your ass...no wonder our parents knew how to act better...THE FEAR! Nowadays kids have flipped everything around and parents are scared of the kids...Unacceptable. I actually wish that they had hit me until I did hit back

But for those of you who were brought up in my time your parents would whoop your ass if you stepped out of line....it wasn't a beating per se, at least not in the sense that they were leaving bruises on me but getting the belt...getting spankings etc....pretty common stu8ff. But once I hit 12 or 13 I stopped getting disciplined that way...probably because I was getting strong enough to fight back with some degree of effectiveness...at what age do you think you should stop "beating" your children?

Whether or not the thread started out real...there are at least a couple people here trying to have a discussion about the topic the troll brought up.

Anonymous wrote:16:04

I allow my DCs to drink in my home (they are 16 and 19), with or without friends present.

The entire logic behind my "permissive" approach is that it prevents my children from going out and engaging in riskier behaviors by presenting a more enjoyable (and vastly safer) alternative. If I were to bar their friends from the festivities, or demand some sort of parental approval, I would undermine that purpose and send my kids straight back out into the night.

So, sorry, but I'm not going to do that. If you are unable to discipline your teens such that they would drink under my roof, well, that's between you and your kids, isn't it? Demanding that I risk the well being of MY children so that I can help you raise yours? No thanks.

And to those who would sue over your son or daughter having a few beers? Get over yourselves. In any case, it's no concern of mine -- I'd far rather find myself in a courtroom facing your sorry little civil suit than in a morgue, identifying my children's bodies.

I agree with you pretty much wholeheartedly...well...not so much drinking without their friends around. I want to open up the world of the social drinker and show them responsibility in my own actions when I am entertaining guests. We had a bar b q on Easter and one of our neighbors became visibly intoxicated and my 14 year old kids were ready to jump in and help him out. They weren't like the other neighborhood kids who were laughing and talking about how funny it was, they were trying to help him out. When I was there age I would have just followed my neighbor around and waited for him to set his drink down so I could sneak drinks from him!!