
Oh, yawn about the European argument. It's ancedotal, irrelevant, and not supported by statistics. Binge drinking is up in several European countries. The measured ways of the past are, well...past. My ancedotal evidence is that I drank as freshman in college (I'm guess that's what the argument is about - U.S. college drinking) with responsibility and so did my friends. I wasn't raised drinking at the family dinner table. No worse for the wear.
If you want to let your kids have a drink at home with family, that's fine. I would suggest not letting other kids do the same unless the parents know and agree. You shouldn't make parenting decisions for other families. |
I have teenagers and let them have wine, beer or champagne at family functions. When we vacation with family and no one is driving, they are allowed to drink a few beers. I would not allow friends of my kids to drink in my house if they were underage. One kid is in college and one is leaving in the fall. I feel letting them have wine/beer in our home and for the past two summers on vacation has taught them some moderation. DS had 3 friends from HS end up in the ER with alcohol poisoning. |
My mom allowed me to do all of the above plus I was allowed to have my boyfriend sleep over. And guess what? I quit all of it (except the boyfriend part) by age 16. It wasn't worth it to rebel with nothing to rebel against. I hated marijuana, never tried LSD although my friends did it at my parties, and didn't like alcohol until college. Oh, and I was a straight A student. OP is onto something. |
I don't see how I could in good conscience refuse to allow a 20-year old to drink a beer as a guest in my house. Of course I wouldn't allow anyone (of any age) to become inebriated, nor would I provide alcohol for anyone to drink in the basement. But if people are invited over for dinner or to watch sport and they are of an age where any decent society would allow them to have a glass of beer or wine (over 18 or 19) then I wouldn't stop them. |
maybe. but dedicateddad is talking about his 14yr olds. BIG difference. I'm most frightened by posters like the one who said it "isn't [their] job to parent my kids". Seriously? So this parenting thing is every man for himself? Maybe if parents communicated honestly with each other, and didn't leave it to kids on iPhones, then we'd have less problems overall. A few years ago, we learned our DS had been smoking pot. Somehow, we just didn't see it. In hindsight, we should have, but we didn't. Learned because he and his best friend got caught by the police. Response of best friend's parents - "we knew he'd been doing it, and were seeing a counselor, but it was a private family matter so we didn't tell you." REALLY? Our kids were best friends, together every day after school and all weekend long. If your kid was getting high, don't you think mine might have been too? If your kid had chicken pox in elementary school and was invited for a sleepover, I'm betting you'd say "we'd love to, but Aidan's been sick and I don't want to risk exposing your child." Why the double standard with something like drinking or drug use, when you know that every parent isn't as "cool" as you? Shame on you. |
My kids are asking about having an end of the school year party with maybe like 8-10 kids from their class. It is mixed boys and girls and they are asking about having beer for the party and I'm sure we will do it because we trust them to know what is right and what is wrong. Because we raised them right. |
I'm actually shocked that so many of the people here see letting kids get some experience in controlled environments as such an evil thing. |
Sounds like you don't volunteer to other parents the information that you let their kids drink and/or get high at your home. If asked, do you tell them?
"Hi, Dedicatedad. Your son invited my son to spend the night. I wanted to confirm that you'll be there? I assume there won't be any drinking?" What do you say? |
Not a civil suit - your actions are actually criminal. And what about the kid who ends up in the morgue because he's driven or even walked home from your house and had an accident? Or perhaps has drunk too much at your house to the point of alcohol poisoning? Or how about mixed gender groups who drink too much and date rape occurs, or someone chokes on their vomit? You are liable for all of it. Please take the time to think about all the things that could go wrong. Adults can't always make good choices regarding alcohol consumption. How can children? |
The threat was to "sue." Unless the PP is a DA, the discussion was of civil matters.
Your post reeks of gutlessness: "Oh, me, what would happen if you were going five miles over the speed limit and your car flipped onto its roof and killed your entire family?" That's about as likely as smart, high-achieving teenagers killing themselves with beer under their parents supervision from the next room. And I'd put far more faith in the decisionmaking skills of lightly supervised teenagers as I would unsupervised, peer-pressured college freshmen. But maybe we should ban college, too? |
This house def sounds like a good idea. I'm totally in. |
This thread confirms my decision not to let my children hang out with liberals. |
Yeah - you should have them play with guns instead. Much safer. |
Well, we have lots of guns in the house as well...and the majority of them are locked up in a gun safe with trigger locks...the rest of them are well hidden enough and in specific locations for optimum home defense. Nobody is going to break in my house and threaten my family while we have our unsupervised sexy beer parties!!! |
Golf clap. |