Wait a minute...I'm sorry I didn't realize we were compiling a list of society's ills throughout American history...I thought we were talking about why everyone's kids are running around like savages with no respect....OK should I start pointing out how bad things are in America now? Rampant unemployment? Homelessness is way worse now...how many wars are we in currently? IS OUR PRESIDENT EVEN AN ACTUAL AMERICAN CITIZEN!!!! OK I'm kidding about the last one I'm just trying to make a point....if we want to have historical pissing contests then let's start a new thread. I want to talk about "spare the rod spoil the child" in here.

Anonymous wrote:The original post has got to be BS.

And I agree with this assessment...

Anonymous wrote:After reading this thread, I need a drink.

Where are you? I could invite you over to my basement if all of the grumpy parents wouldn't mind! Or maybe I should call your parents first and let them know that I will be having alcohol there!

The answer is usually "They're funny" "Or it's just a joke image thing" and I hate that answer though.

I would listen to it with them. When I see them cringing because they know that something they don't want me to hear is about to come out I ask them why they feel the need to listen to that kind of trash. If they know it is contrary to the lessons I try to teach them then I ask them why? I looked up that band Copstabber and they are really offensive but I hate to admit it....if you can get past the screaming vocals and the horrible lyrics they are pretty catchy for a "punk" band. I miss the Clash.

LOL!

Yeah I addressed that black folks and women had it pretty bad in a separate post so nice try but no....I guess I didn't include other minorities or the gays who also were getting mistreated as well. So for that...I apologize. if you are gay or a minority other than black. If you are neither then shut up whitey!

Are you asking me on a date? You anonymous vixen you! I'm a happily married man....A/S/L?

Thank you for your support, madame. I was told about this site by another parent I know who said that she had found a great place to exchange ideas and the people are really helpful...I am pretty sure I have no idea what my friend was talking about. Most of the people here are really nasty.

I have been nothing but polite to anyone who has contributed to the conversation...

Good point...I didn't really think about that as a problem. Oh well the damage is done, but thank you anonymous helpers for pointing out that I have been too free with my personal information. Oh wait...I don't care. There are probably several hundred people in various postions in the trauma center and enough twins in the community that I haven't given away my true identity...Seriously. Are you people really that paranoid that you are afraid to share a little bit of your information on here? My first name is Don and my last four digits of my ssn are 3195. OH NO!!!! MORE INFORMATION!!! THE SCARY IMAGINARY INTERNET STALKERS ARE GONNA FIND ME!!!!

Oh wait....nobody actually cares about any of that shit, except my wife who might get pissed when she sees that I put her place of employment on here.

Anonymous wrote:I agree that if you use physical violence to try to get people to do what you want, it is probably a good idea to stop once they become big enough to fight back.

This will also teach them the valuable lesson that you should only attack people significantly weaker than you.

Ahhh, the 50s, when you could smack the crap out of your wife for not having dinner on the table when you come back from work. Happy days.

And this is actually my favorite post in the whole thread so far! It addressed the issue with a good sense of humor, but you do know that you are manipulating my words. The reason I suspected my family stopped giving me beatings was because I was old enough to put up a fight. Purely speculation on my part...we never discussed why...maybe it was just because I finally stopped being an asshole! I don't think that the beatings should stop because they are getting closer to my size, I actually think that when they are smaller it is strictly viewed as discipline from a higher ranking official...I don't want it to feel like "violence" even though I have used that term in this thread. Once the child is old enough to start instinctively responding with physicality it is time to stop because this isn't supposed to be a conflict...this is supposed to be teaching your kid how to act.

In my world if the kid is respectful and does what he is supposed to then they get respect and they get freedoms. If the kid steps far enough out of line a good spanking works wonders on a younger child. And a single open hand smack across the face does miracles for getting a snotty disrespectful teen to remember that that isn't the way you act.

And ChivasPapa...be careful, pretty soon they will start calling you a redneck because you said Brain power twice back to back...I know it was a typo but that is a pretty serios offense around here.

Anonymous wrote:

dedicateddad wrote:And I'm not doing this in order to connect with my teenagers by letting them have a certain degree of freedom in this safe environment where they have adequate supervision and medical attention available immediately if anything were to happen. My wife works in the trauma center at Georgetown University Hospital and has for nearly 15 years. This is as safe and as controlled environment as they are likely to come across and I stand behind my decisions to give them this safe place.

"My wife works in the trauma center at Georgetown University Hospital and has for nearly 15 years."

Do tell?

God, what a pretentious bore. Where do they come from?

Not pretentious at all...I'm just showing you that we are not the trailer park trash that many of you are treating me as. We are educated regular hardworking people who want to provide a safe place for our kids to learn about real life instead of from their dipshit schoolmates who are probably your kids....