Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

How many times did you call 911 for a raving homeless person? There were multiple 911 calls before Penny did anything - Neely wasn't just a "ranting homeless and mentally ill" person. He was next level and many people on that train car knew it.

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

Neither! Neely would start ranting at my kid and probably punch her in the face. Penny would choke out my kid if she starts crying. Neither of them seem stable.

This is a really unfair post. You're just an anonymous rando on the internet but Penny or a family member may use google and find this post - your nonsense is hurtful to real people.

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An uncle of Jordan Neely — the homeless man choked to death on the subway this month — was arrested near the Port Authority Bus Terminal for allegedly stealing purses from restaurants, police sources said Tuesday.

Christopher Neely, 44, had acted as something of a representative for the grieving family in the aftermath of his 30-year-old nephew’s May 1 death, frequently speaking out about the lightning-rod case.

But Neely was also allegedly wanted for a pattern of grand larceny, including the handbag thefts, according to the sources.

A member of the NYPD’s pickpocket team spotted Neely, of Hamilton Heights, at about 11 p.m. Monday near the Manhattan bus station.

He allegedly took off when the officer approached him — and fought back when cops caught up to him after a brief chase, the sources said.

Eventually, authorities cuffed him and charged him with criminal possession of stolen property, resisting arrest, bail jumping and unlawful possession of a weapon.

This really doesn't have anything to do with Jordan Neely's death apart from the fact that it's his uncle. Also I notice that the word "allegedly" is used 3 times. It's almost as if the writer of this article is somehow trying to diminish the Neely family.

That's not what allegedly means. It doesn't diminish the subject, it is intended to protect them (and the writer).

And yes, this does have something to do with this thread, unfortunately.

No, it doesn't have anything to do with Neely's death unless you're looking to find a way to find fault with Neely's family.

If Jordan Neely's uncle was a war hero would that have change anything concerning Jordan's death?

Yes, his uncle's arrest is very much related to this thread.
His uncle became somewhat of the family's spokesperson following the subway incident.
He said he didn't think Penny deserved a plea deal.
And, he has quite the record......And, yet... he is out with no bail even though there was a warrant out for his arrest.

An uncle of subway chokehold victim Jordan Neely’s who was arrested for stealing credit cards was released Wednesday after his attorney said he’d been a “rock” for his grieving family.

Manhattan prosecutors sought to hold Christopher Neely, 44, on $10,000 bail because he was on probation in a 2019 grand larceny case at the time of his arrest Monday night.

He also had a warrant out for his arrest for violating his probation when he was busted near the Port Authority Bus Terminal, Assistant District Attorney Evan Rufrano said at Neely’s Manhattan Criminal Court arraignment.

But Neely’s public defender, Gurmeet Singh, argued that his client had been a father figure to his late nephew – and that Jordan’s death on May 1 after ex-Marine Daniel Penny put him in a chokehold had exacted a tremendous toll on the family.

Prosecutors said Neely was arrested 20 times since June 2022, while on probation, on charges of either grand larceny or criminal possession of stolen property for allegedly stealing people’s bags and wallets, then using their credit cards.

Rufrano said the DA’s office was moving forward with prosecuting three of the incidents — hitting Neely with a total 12 counts of grand larceny in the fourth degree and one count of resisting arrest — while the other cases need further investigation.

When he was arrested, Neely had on him seven credit cards that bore different names, Rufrano said

https://nypost.com/2023/05/24/jordan-neelys-uncle-released-without-bail-in-nyc-credit-card-theft-arrest/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Those are property crimes. That's why you have insurance.

Property crimes. Identity theft. Purse snatching. Pickpocketing.

No big deal, right? Until YOU are the victim.

No, the victim is the person who would be prosecuted for these "crimes." He is just trying to feed his family. Jean Valjean was just stealing some bread for his children. Society failed to teach him how not to steal. /s

[Anonymous]

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An uncle of Jordan Neely — the homeless man choked to death on the subway this month — was arrested near the Port Authority Bus Terminal for allegedly stealing purses from restaurants, police sources said Tuesday.

Christopher Neely, 44, had acted as something of a representative for the grieving family in the aftermath of his 30-year-old nephew’s May 1 death, frequently speaking out about the lightning-rod case.

But Neely was also allegedly wanted for a pattern of grand larceny, including the handbag thefts, according to the sources.

A member of the NYPD’s pickpocket team spotted Neely, of Hamilton Heights, at about 11 p.m. Monday near the Manhattan bus station.

He allegedly took off when the officer approached him — and fought back when cops caught up to him after a brief chase, the sources said.

Eventually, authorities cuffed him and charged him with criminal possession of stolen property, resisting arrest, bail jumping and unlawful possession of a weapon.

This really doesn't have anything to do with Jordan Neely's death apart from the fact that it's his uncle. Also I notice that the word "allegedly" is used 3 times. It's almost as if the writer of this article is somehow trying to diminish the Neely family.

That's not what allegedly means. It doesn't diminish the subject, it is intended to protect them (and the writer).

And yes, this does have something to do with this thread, unfortunately.

No, it doesn't have anything to do with Neely's death unless you're looking to find a way to find fault with Neely's family.

If Jordan Neely's uncle was a war hero would that have change anything concerning Jordan's death?

Yes, his uncle's arrest is very much related to this thread.
His uncle became somewhat of the family's spokesperson following the subway incident.
He said he didn't think Penny deserved a plea deal.
And, he has quite the record......And, yet... he is out with no bail even though there was a warrant out for his arrest.

An uncle of subway chokehold victim Jordan Neely’s who was arrested for stealing credit cards was released Wednesday after his attorney said he’d been a “rock” for his grieving family.

Manhattan prosecutors sought to hold Christopher Neely, 44, on $10,000 bail because he was on probation in a 2019 grand larceny case at the time of his arrest Monday night.

He also had a warrant out for his arrest for violating his probation when he was busted near the Port Authority Bus Terminal, Assistant District Attorney Evan Rufrano said at Neely’s Manhattan Criminal Court arraignment.

But Neely’s public defender, Gurmeet Singh, argued that his client had been a father figure to his late nephew – and that Jordan’s death on May 1 after ex-Marine Daniel Penny put him in a chokehold had exacted a tremendous toll on the family.

Prosecutors said Neely was arrested 20 times since June 2022, while on probation, on charges of either grand larceny or criminal possession of stolen property for allegedly stealing people’s bags and wallets, then using their credit cards.

Rufrano said the DA’s office was moving forward with prosecuting three of the incidents — hitting Neely with a total 12 counts of grand larceny in the fourth degree and one count of resisting arrest — while the other cases need further investigation.

When he was arrested, Neely had on him seven credit cards that bore different names, Rufrano said

https://nypost.com/2023/05/24/jordan-neelys-uncle-released-without-bail-in-nyc-credit-card-theft-arrest/?utm_campaign=nypost&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Those are property crimes. That's why you have insurance.

So then why do we have health insurance and burial insurance ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

This.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

How many times did you call 911 for a raving homeless person? There were multiple 911 calls before Penny did anything - Neely wasn't just a "ranting homeless and mentally ill" person. He was next level and many people on that train car knew it.

Correct. He was on a list informally known as the Top 50, a roster of people in a city of eight million who stand out for the severity of their troubles and their resistance to accepting help.
Top 50. His behavior caused Penny to subdue him.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

How many times did you call 911 for a raving homeless person? There were multiple 911 calls before Penny did anything - Neely wasn't just a "ranting homeless and mentally ill" person. He was next level and many people on that train car knew it.

Correct. He was on a list informally known as the Top 50, a roster of people in a city of eight million who stand out for the severity of their troubles and their resistance to accepting help.
Top 50. His behavior caused Penny to subdue him.

Who kept this list?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

How many times did you call 911 for a raving homeless person? There were multiple 911 calls before Penny did anything - Neely wasn't just a "ranting homeless and mentally ill" person. He was next level and many people on that train car knew it.

Correct. He was on a list informally known as the Top 50, a roster of people in a city of eight million who stand out for the severity of their troubles and their resistance to accepting help.
Top 50. His behavior caused Penny to subdue him.

Who kept this list?

The Powers That Be. Jordan Neely was on a "Top 50" list of Mentally Ill Homeless People in Need of Urgent Help maintained by NYC outreach workers, The New York Times reported. The list is described by NBC as the most at-risk homeless clients and considered by outreach workers to be a potential danger to himself and others.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

How many times did you call 911 for a raving homeless person? There were multiple 911 calls before Penny did anything - Neely wasn't just a "ranting homeless and mentally ill" person. He was next level and many people on that train car knew it.

Correct. He was on a list informally known as the Top 50, a roster of people in a city of eight million who stand out for the severity of their troubles and their resistance to accepting help.
Top 50. His behavior caused Penny to subdue him.

Who kept this list?

NYC Dept. of Homeless Services.

Referred to colloquially as the “Top 50” list, the internal catalogue held by the city’s Department of Homeless Services details which people are cycling in and out of homeless shelters and mental health treatment centers, a source told The Post Monday.

The agency and its nonprofit service providers flag cases that need close attention, which helps them keep track of those in dire need of assistance.

https://nypost.com/2023/05/08/jordan-neely-was-on-top-50-list-at-nyc-department-of-homeless-services-because-he-urgently-needed-help/

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Sealed so far.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried out by 6. And the film does not show what the homeless man was doing before being subdued by 3 men. Too many nut bags and not enough police.

+1. The Marine did the right thing. He was protecting the other people on the train.

Exactly. Everyone on that train SAID he was a hero for protecting them.

The indictment is racist.

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Moral of the story is, don't go fight wars and put your personal safety and well being on the line for an ungrateful nation. If you see someone assaulting others, ignore ignore ignore. Don't get involved. Worry about yourself and nobody else.

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Anonymous wrote:Daniel Penny's defense fund is now up to $ 2,284,047.

Good. He has excellent legal counsel.

Excellent legal counsel wouldn’t be suggesting he give interviews like this.

I read the interview. Penny has a few loose screws.

Would you rather leave your child in a locked room with Penny, or with Neely?

My kid will be raised properly to leave the room if either are acting weird.

Still doesn’t change the fact that Penny doesn’t have all his marbles.

That's not an option on a subway car that's between stations.

I lived in NYC for over a decade, commuted daily on the subway. I've been on the train many times with ranting homeless and mentally ill people. Every NY'er knows that you move to the other side of the subway car while in motion then exit the car at the next stop. You don't engage at all with the mentally ill person. You notify the conductor at the next station and they wait for NYPD to arrive.

Penny has some sort of Hero Syndrome. He's not all there.

How many times did you call 911 for a raving homeless person? There were multiple 911 calls before Penny did anything - Neely wasn't just a "ranting homeless and mentally ill" person. He was next level and many people on that train car knew it.

hE wAs nExT lEvEl.

Nope. Keep trying though.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried out by 6. And the film does not show what the homeless man was doing before being subdued by 3 men. Too many nut bags and not enough police.

+1. The Marine did the right thing. He was protecting the other people on the train.

Exactly. Everyone on that train SAID he was a hero for protecting them.

The indictment is racist.

Nonsense. Grow up.