Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway

[Anonymous]

WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

[Anonymous]

Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Because he didn't tap out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Yelling and asking for food is not punishable by death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.

But this is exactly what's happening everywhere, to innocent people. I live in LA, it's literally the wild west the minute you step outside.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.

It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?

[Anonymous]

A breakdown of law and order in our cities. People are taking things in their own hand. See also TJ Maxx guy confronting shoplifters. Echoes of Bernard Goetz.

[Anonymous]

The unhoused should be allowed to pitch their tents on sidewalks and decline mental health treatment, right OP?

[Anonymous]

Recently a homeless man asked me for money. I said no apologetically, but he tried to attack me and steal my bag. He spit on me. I screamed as loud as I could. If I had a weapon, I would have used it. He could have easily killed me. I am very ill and it would not take much from a lunatic homeless vagrant to kill me. Sorry, I'm not dying for these people, they have already taken enough from me.

[Anonymous]

I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried out by 6. And the film does not show what the homeless man was doing before being subdued by 3 men. Too many nut bags and not enough police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.

There have been a number of subway deaths in NYC when people were pushed into the path of trains by mentally unstable people. Do you not keep up with the news?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ

Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.

There have been a number of subway deaths in NYC when people were pushed into the path of trains by mentally unstable people. Do you not keep up with the news?

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?

Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.

It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?

+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?