Homeless Man Killed by Fellow Passenger on NYC Subway

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.

Agree. Glad he was released without charges.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?


+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?


Of course that was upsetting. But in this particular case, there is no indication that the guy was going to push anyone in front of the train. He was ON the train. Anyone who has lived in a city has encountered people--on subway trains and off--who are clearly mentally ill and acting weird. As a woman, I try to get off the train as soon as I can or I move to the other side of the car I am in. When you take public transportation, you will eventually encounter high people, mentally ill people, homeless people, weird-looking people, etc. It comes with the territory.

But it shouldn’t be like this in a civilized, developed country. We should not encounter high, mentally or homeless people. Not even dirty smelly people, or people screaming and throwing things. They should be picked up by police and places in appropriate institutions.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.

Agree. Glad he was released without charges.


He murdered a guy for being loud.

He’ll be in jail in no time.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?


+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?


Of course that was upsetting. But in this particular case, there is no indication that the guy was going to push anyone in front of the train. He was ON the train. Anyone who has lived in a city has encountered people--on subway trains and off--who are clearly mentally ill and acting weird. As a woman, I try to get off the train as soon as I can or I move to the other side of the car I am in. When you take public transportation, you will eventually encounter high people, mentally ill people, homeless people, weird-looking people, etc. It comes with the territory.

But it shouldn’t be like this in a civilized, developed country. We should not encounter high, mentally or homeless people. Not even dirty smelly people, or people screaming and throwing things. They should be picked up by police and places in appropriate institutions.


That is what we did until Reagan defunded the MHSA
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?


+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?


Of course that was upsetting. But in this particular case, there is no indication that the guy was going to push anyone in front of the train. He was ON the train. Anyone who has lived in a city has encountered people--on subway trains and off--who are clearly mentally ill and acting weird. As a woman, I try to get off the train as soon as I can or I move to the other side of the car I am in. When you take public transportation, you will eventually encounter high people, mentally ill people, homeless people, weird-looking people, etc. It comes with the territory.


And if you’ve lived in a city and taken the subway, you know that sometimes it’s not always possible to exit your subway car when some nut job starts acting crazy or violent. The best you can do is try to inch away, pray the doors open soon, or pray there is a big guy in the car who will take on the crazy man.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.

Agree. Glad he was released without charges.


He murdered a guy for being loud.

He’ll be in jail in no time.

+1 How is this different from the guy who shot Lucy McBath’s son just for playing loud music in a parking lot?
Anonymous
Thanks, Reagan, for nothing.

Trickle down economics doesn't work and neither did shutting down mental institutions.

This is what happens when idiot Americans vote for "actors."

Sickening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.


You think he was right to kill him? Literally choke him to death for 15 minutes? That's disgusting.

The marine literally murdered someone with his bare hands and you are calling the homeless guy a danger. Unbelievable.


Citation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


But this is exactly what's happening everywhere, to innocent people. I live in LA, it's literally the wild west the minute you step outside.




That's exactly right. We've had a breakdown in law and order and the basic rules and norms of civilization in many cities - San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, Chicago, Minneapolis, Memphis, Baltimore, Philadelphia and on and on. The police don't do anything. The DAs don't prosecute. The judges don't sentence. And as we go into the warm months it's only going to get worse. All we hear from politicians and city councils is equity and restorative justice and systemic racism and blah blah blah. Meanwhile our once great cities are emptying - look at office vacancy rates - and the drugged out zombies and sociopathic violent criminals fill the void. It's a damn shame Republicans are nutcases these days so there really isn't a meaningful voting alternative to the utterly misguided progressives that run most cities these days. It's sad. And as the mayhem continues, more and more Americans are going to arm themselves and vigilante justice is going to become the norm. And it's our collective fault because we voted for these idiots.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?


+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?


Of course that was upsetting. But in this particular case, there is no indication that the guy was going to push anyone in front of the train. He was ON the train. Anyone who has lived in a city has encountered people--on subway trains and off--who are clearly mentally ill and acting weird. As a woman, I try to get off the train as soon as I can or I move to the other side of the car I am in. When you take public transportation, you will eventually encounter high people, mentally ill people, homeless people, weird-looking people, etc. It comes with the territory.

But it shouldn’t be like this in a civilized, developed country. We should not encounter high, mentally or homeless people. Not even dirty smelly people, or people screaming and throwing things. They should be picked up by police and places in appropriate institutions.


That is what we did until Reagan defunded the MHSA


Well then someone should reinstall what was before Reagan
For some reason no one will touch it with a 10 ft pole
Why is that?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.


You think he was right to kill him? Literally choke him to death for 15 minutes? That's disgusting.

The marine literally murdered someone with his bare hands and you are calling the homeless guy a danger. Unbelievable.


Well everyone at the scene was watching and cheering on the Marine. That's not something the NYC public do unless they feel threatened by the crazy homeless.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?


+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?


Of course that was upsetting. But in this particular case, there is no indication that the guy was going to push anyone in front of the train. He was ON the train. Anyone who has lived in a city has encountered people--on subway trains and off--who are clearly mentally ill and acting weird. As a woman, I try to get off the train as soon as I can or I move to the other side of the car I am in. When you take public transportation, you will eventually encounter high people, mentally ill people, homeless people, weird-looking people, etc. It comes with the territory.

But it shouldn’t be like this in a civilized, developed country. We should not encounter high, mentally or homeless people. Not even dirty smelly people, or people screaming and throwing things. They should be picked up by police and places in appropriate institutions.


That is what we did until Reagan defunded the MHSA


Well then someone should reinstall what was before Reagan
For some reason no one will touch it with a 10 ft pole
Why is that?


“Install what was before Reagan”?? Are you 12?! How do you have no idea “what was before Regan”???

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Because he was dangerous and needed to be subdued. Why wouldn't someone understand that?


Specifically how was he dangerous? There are 1000s of people experiencing mental health and/or substance abuses crises in NYC and other large cities. Most are a danger to themselves only. He was apparently in the chokehold for 15 minutes. That's a lifetime. Cops and EMTs could have been called and passengers could have gotten off at the next stop and alerted the driver. Several male passengers could have tried to subdue him at once until help came. Does everyone have carte blanche now to kill people they perceive as dangerous? Because if that's the case, don't venture into cities or onto subways.


It seems likely that the use of force was excessive. We need more information about why he was perceived as a threat.

Tell me, were you this upset when Michelle Go was pushed onto the tracks to her death for no reason?


+1 or about the woman who lost an eye?


Of course that was upsetting. But in this particular case, there is no indication that the guy was going to push anyone in front of the train. He was ON the train. Anyone who has lived in a city has encountered people--on subway trains and off--who are clearly mentally ill and acting weird. As a woman, I try to get off the train as soon as I can or I move to the other side of the car I am in. When you take public transportation, you will eventually encounter high people, mentally ill people, homeless people, weird-looking people, etc. It comes with the territory.

But it shouldn’t be like this in a civilized, developed country. We should not encounter high, mentally or homeless people. Not even dirty smelly people, or people screaming and throwing things. They should be picked up by police and places in appropriate institutions.


That is what we did until Reagan defunded the MHSA


Well then someone should reinstall what was before Reagan
For some reason no one will touch it with a 10 ft pole
Why is that?


Politics. Republican presidents and Republican Congress won’t vote on it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried out by 6. And the film does not show what the homeless man was doing before being subdued by 3 men. Too many nut bags and not enough police.

Where did you grow up and where do you live now?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:WTF!
Why would this guy choke this man out like this?
https://www.thedailybeast.com/wannabe-vigilan...show?mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Guy did the right thing. This homeless guy should have been locked up or institutionalized. He was a danger to others.


You think he was right to kill him? Literally choke him to death for 15 minutes? That's disgusting.

The marine literally murdered someone with his bare hands and you are calling the homeless guy a danger. Unbelievable.


Citation?

It’s in the subhead of the article in the OP.
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