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Until about a year ago, I was part of a big group of friends. Probably 40 or so people total, though obviously I was closer with some people and more acquaintances with others. We socialized together a lot -- I would say I went out with one or more people from the group at least twice a week. We almost always celebrated birthdays together, went to each others weddings, etc.
There were two people in the group I did not get along with, but because of the size of the group, it didn't seem like a huge deal. I just avoided them but otherwise had plenty of mutual friends with them. And we'd go to lots of the same big parties and just wouldn't hang out. Again, since I was close to some people but not others, some people knew about this issue and some didn't. I never got the impression (over several years) that it was a big deal to anyone really. Not everyone gets along, it's fine. About a year ago, I learned in a very upsetting way (via an email chain that I got added to late, that included previous emails about me that I was not supposed to see), that several of the people I was close to in the group had been talking about me A LOT regarding these two people I didn't get along with. I learned that it was actually a hot topic of gossip among many people in the group, and also that a lot of people, who I had previously thought liked me fine and with whom I'd always gotten along, had been saying some very nasty things about me. It turns out that the two people I didn't get along with had been very vocally complaining about my presence in the group for over a year, and that many people, including several people I had thought were some of my closest friends (not just in the group but in the world) had come to agree that I didn't belong and had started to exclude me from a variety of things I didn't know about. Long story short, I stopped hanging out with any of these people and, over the course of about 6 months, slowly removed myself from any contact. I even quit Facebook because it had become too painful/upsetting to be on there after years of being part of this group, all of whom are very active on FB and not only post a lot themselves but interact with each other in a very public way. It seemed easier and healthier to just quit than to try and unfriend so many people. I am not totally friendless now. I have a small group of old friends I've known for a long time, plus long-distance friendships with a handful of people I went to high school and college with. They are not the kind of people who socialize a ton, so even before Covid my social life had kind of died because of all this. In a way Covid has been better because it has made my small group of friend and I reinvest and we actually talk and message each other a lot more now. I've been in therapy since this happened and it's going well. I've processed a lot of what happened and have definitely gotten past the immediate crisis, which was really bad. I was so overwhelmed by the rejection and loss of trust that I was in a pretty bad place, including contemplating suicide. I was also self-harming for a while. I've worked through those things and am in a much better place now. However, I still struggle. I am not close to my family and never will be. When I met this group of friends over a decade ago, they became a kind of surrogate family for me and a central part of my life. Even though I have realized that they were not the supportive friend group I thought they were, I still feel overwhelmed by feelings of rejection. The memory of everything comes over me whenever I am struggling with anything else -- work, Covid, my family -- and I feel worthless and unloveable. I just want to put it behind me and stop feeling crushed by this feeling of rejection and ostracism. I feel like a leper and an outcast. Has anyone else ever dealt with something like this? Do you have any advice for how to stop these feelings of rejection? It is so much bigger and more intense than any breakup I've ever experienced. And I'm in my 40s, which makes it feel lonelier and harder than it would have earlier in my life, when I had more opportunities for making friends and connections. Advice and wisdom welcome. Please don't be mean -- I can take it (you are strangers so your approval is not essential to me) but it's just really not helpful. I'm just wondering if someone might have a suggestion, a book, an anecdote, etc. that might alleviate some of my anguish. |
| These people were never your friends and reality is once you are out of the group, they will find someone new to target. Sorry that happened to you. That's why I avoid large groups like that. |
| Did you ever find out why some of the group was mad at you and excluded you? |
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Ouch what a punch in the gut. I am sorry I don’t have anything to say that you probably don’t already realize
-you have other friends, so know that “it’s not you, it’s them”. I am sorry for this. Sounds really mean spirited. I hope these people are still in their twenties , hopefully not older than 35. To be that petty and shallow by age 40 is wrong. By 40 hopefully one learns to be confident, sincere, kind, appreciative. Big hug from cyber space. Make time for fun with new acquaintances and a few friendships will develop - if not no worries you had fun, got your mind of the bs. |
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Happened to a friend of mine. To be fair, she did a very shitty thing (without completely realizing it) to someone in the group, but even then, she did not deserve to be ostrasized. It's painful.
The thing I told her, is that you can't take everyone from one phase of life to another, you don't have the resources to keep all the people. Your friendship ran it course. If you can, move and continue building your life. Good luck. None of them btw, are worth you hurting yourself. Assholes. |
| ***Unrelated but Man, 40? That’s a mega circle. Neighbors, sorority, team moms? How does such a circle form? |
It is convoluted but basically they didn't like that I didn't like these two people. I wouldn't even say people were "mad" at me. It was more that they didn't like navigating between me and the other people, and they concluded that they liked these other people more. So I had to go. Some people apparently also found me annoying and uptight. I do think a lot of what happened is that once people became predisposed to dislike me because of what a few people were saying behind my back, anything I did that was perfect became a reason to dislike me. That's why it was convoluted. And it just steamrolled. After I found out about some of this gossip, I became depressed, and then people complained that I was a bummer and not fun to be around. There was no way out of that hole once it had been dug. |
Thank you, I really appreciate the support. I agree -- the whole thing blindsided me because it never occurred to me that people this age would be this gossipy. In retrospect I overlooked a lot of red flags. |
| I’m glad you are out of that nightmare but sorry it happened. I actually think the older I get that groups can be unhealthy many times I try to avoid unless it’s for a good cause Or extended family etc. |
| This sounds very middle school rather than adult behavior. I’m sorry that you are going through this. You need to not waste your precious time with people who don’t appreciate you for who you are. Unfortunately, COVID is not a good time to be branching out, but you need to find a new group of friends. |
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It sounds like a bad experience OP and I'm sorry you went through that. You are out the other side of it now so looking forward I would focus on the small group of friends you do have, the people you do like and keep loyal and positive with them.
As for the others, they sound toxic. Its likely they will continue to reduce their numbers in the same way, picking off one person at a time. Its childish and its kinda mindless but I suspect you're better off outside that "group" in the longer term. |
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That sounds like a huge blow that would hurt anyone for years, and for years to come.
I know this will be unpopular advice, but if I were in your shoes, I would reply to the chain email, tell everyone how deeply hurt you were to read it to the point that you contemplated suicide, that you cherished their friendship and that you have moved on but you will never, ever forget their callous and hurtful behavior. I would hit send and then forget about them. You will never really get over this, and it would be helpful to you and to them to let them have a bit of a souvenir of what they've done to another human being. (I usually advocate for taking the high road, but I think in this case hitting send on that email would be healing for you.) |
Sorry to hear this happened to you. Keep in therapy. Honestly the saying “When one door closes another opens,” really is true. Be patient and you will see. Also, are you on the younger side and is this a younger group? In my experience younger groups tend to have more of this sort of drama. Join some type of new activity or become active in your church or synagogue if you belong to one. It will be okay. |
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That’s terrible OP. This happened to me as a high schooler and it was pretty traumatic. I basically wanted to sleep and not wake up. School became hell. I was very lonely and everyone thought these horrible things about me that weren’t even true... it is so hurtful to have your trust breached that way.
However, although I couldn’t see it then, it was actually a huge gift to me from the universe. I ended up getting closer with another group of friends (who were already my friends but on a more casual level). That group was always inviting me out but I often chose the more “popular” group. Shame on me. The popular group betrayed me, while this other group? Once I started spending more time with them, I wondered why I ever even bothered with the first group. They are still my very beloved best friends more than 20 years later. Sending hugs, OP. Take it day by day. Spend time with other friends and learn to enjoy being alone if you don’t already. This whole situation says more about them than you. If you were truly doing something wrong, real friends would have come to you, instead of talking behind your back. |
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This happened to me!! It was huge, ugly, blindsiding, crushing.
Here is what I did OP: - Therapy - Remove/block on social media - Throw myself into exercise. Good happy brain chemicals plus looking good is always a great revenge - Threw myself into working on my career. Great reminder of how those people were just one part of my identity - Threw myself into my hobbies. See above: Here's a whole other part of me that is another facet of my identity to build and strengthen - Travel! Nothing like being several states away in the woods to put those people in perspective, ie, make them feel as small and irrelevant as they are keep going, keep going, keep going. I too was in an extremely dark place about it for a long time. And then eventually: I wasn't |