Discrimination against Asians

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Seems like PP has confused repetition with persuasive argument. It’s not getting you anywhere; if anything, the rhetoric has convinced a lot of people who otherwise could not care less about TJ that a major overhaul there is needed.

Major overhaul=put those Asians in their place.

Major overhaul = provide access to a wider group of kids or shut it down.

Major overhaul = provide access to a wider group of kids , that are just as capable without the over the top helicopter Indian parents, or shut it down.

So who are you trying to kick out- Indians only? Chinese? Korean? Vietnamese? Pakistani? Bangladeshi? Filipino? Sri Lankan? Cambodian? Japanese? Nepali? Singaporean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

Prep since Kindergarten?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For all of the Asians looking at URMs as the problem. The proposed lottery system will benefit white students the most. Don't feed into the lies that this is only to promote underachieving minorities.

But, you have always been willing tools to help spread the word and advocate for someone else's agenda.

Nice job taking the bait.

+1 This is what happened in MCPS change to "peer cohort". The biggest bumps were for white students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

I guess it depends on what you value in life. If you value equal opportunity and the right to live without being harassed, beaten, or otherwise discriminated against, then you would likely support the Democrats...especially when you compare them to Trump. However, if all you care about is being able to get into an elite school, then go ahead and support Trump. At the end of the day, you'll still be a minority and after you leave your elite high school or college, you'll still be confronted with racism. No, not the same kind of racism that Blacks face but you'll still experience it.

TJ supporters who think the Republican party is a better alternative are very short-sighted. There's more to life than getting into a certain high school or college. You can keep playing the "model minority" game but in the eyes of some people, you will always be the "others".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

I guess it depends on what you value in life. If you value equal opportunity and the right to live without being harassed, beaten, or otherwise discriminated against, then you would likely support the Democrats...especially when you compare them to Trump. However, if all you care about is being able to get into an elite school, then go ahead and support Trump. At the end of the day, you'll still be a minority and after you leave your elite high school or college, you'll still be confronted with racism. No, not the same kind of racism that Blacks face but you'll still experience it.

TJ supporters who think the Republican party is a better alternative are very short-sighted. There's more to life than getting into a certain high school or college. You can keep playing the "model minority" game but in the eyes of some people, you will always be the "others".

Dp. Not voting Democrat doesn’t automatically mean voting for Trump.

If neither party cares about Asians, neither party has to have their vote. If Democrats don’t care to include Asians but rather just shame them into going along against their best interests, then it it quite natural to be repelled by that action.

You say ‘equal opportunity’ for all but it is not for all. And Black people would be hypocritical to judge Asians for voting in their best interest. There have been many election cycles where it was clear, outspoken and accepted when they said they wouldn’t vote because neither side cared about them.

It’s disingenuous. But sadly, the entire Democrat platform has also become disingenuous.

[Anonymous]

These people keep shooting themselves in the foot. Now they have a new petition, which will get them nowhere, to fire Brabrand and the TJ principal because of their efforts to make TJ more welcoming and inclusive.

It’s just a case study in how a community manages to isolate itself and end up ostracized. They care about no one other than themselves and getting their own precious kids into one school by any means possible. At this point, most everyone else would just like them to shut up and leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

I guess it depends on what you value in life. If you value equal opportunity and the right to live without being harassed, beaten, or otherwise discriminated against, then you would likely support the Democrats...especially when you compare them to Trump. However, if all you care about is being able to get into an elite school, then go ahead and support Trump. At the end of the day, you'll still be a minority and after you leave your elite high school or college, you'll still be confronted with racism. No, not the same kind of racism that Blacks face but you'll still experience it.

TJ supporters who think the Republican party is a better alternative are very short-sighted. There's more to life than getting into a certain high school or college. You can keep playing the "model minority" game but in the eyes of some people, you will always be the "others".

Dp. Not voting Democrat doesn’t automatically mean voting for Trump.

If neither party cares about Asians, neither party has to have their vote. If Democrats don’t care to include Asians but rather just shame them into going along against their best interests, then it it quite natural to be repelled by that action.

You say ‘equal opportunity’ for all but it is not for all. And Black people would be hypocritical to judge Asians for voting in their best interest. There have been many election cycles where it was clear, outspoken and accepted when they said they wouldn’t vote because neither side cared about them.

It’s disingenuous. But sadly, the entire Democrat platform has also become disingenuous.

Interesting. You mention caring about Asians but you actually mean caring about the top 1% of Asians who have the resources to spend on test prep, tutoring, etc. to go to TJ and elite colleges. Do you even care about the other 99% of Asians in the US that have to struggle and deal with racism like other minorities? As was stated earlier, there's more to life than driving around with a TJ or [insert your ivy league school] sticker.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

I guess it depends on what you value in life. If you value equal opportunity and the right to live without being harassed, beaten, or otherwise discriminated against, then you would likely support the Democrats...especially when you compare them to Trump. However, if all you care about is being able to get into an elite school, then go ahead and support Trump. At the end of the day, you'll still be a minority and after you leave your elite high school or college, you'll still be confronted with racism. No, not the same kind of racism that Blacks face but you'll still experience it.

TJ supporters who think the Republican party is a better alternative are very short-sighted. There's more to life than getting into a certain high school or college. You can keep playing the "model minority" game but in the eyes of some people, you will always be the "others".

Dp. Not voting Democrat doesn’t automatically mean voting for Trump.

If neither party cares about Asians, neither party has to have their vote. If Democrats don’t care to include Asians but rather just shame them into going along against their best interests, then it it quite natural to be repelled by that action.

You say ‘equal opportunity’ for all but it is not for all. And Black people would be hypocritical to judge Asians for voting in their best interest. There have been many election cycles where it was clear, outspoken and accepted when they said they wouldn’t vote because neither side cared about them.

It’s disingenuous. But sadly, the entire Democrat platform has also become disingenuous.

SJWs drove me to supporting the Republican party too. Never would have imagined that 5 years ago but the Democratic platform has gotten ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

I guess it depends on what you value in life. If you value equal opportunity and the right to live without being harassed, beaten, or otherwise discriminated against, then you would likely support the Democrats...especially when you compare them to Trump. However, if all you care about is being able to get into an elite school, then go ahead and support Trump. At the end of the day, you'll still be a minority and after you leave your elite high school or college, you'll still be confronted with racism. No, not the same kind of racism that Blacks face but you'll still experience it.

TJ supporters who think the Republican party is a better alternative are very short-sighted. There's more to life than getting into a certain high school or college. You can keep playing the "model minority" game but in the eyes of some people, you will always be the "others".

I guess it would depend on how you define equal opportunity or harassment. If you define opportunity as privileges, then there is no way that can be equal while still maintaining a free society. This is why all societies that try to enforce equal privilege end up being authoritarian and oppressive regimes like North Korea and Venezuela. I don't want to live in such a society. As for harassment, some people regard being offended as being harassed. There is simply no way that anyone can be shielded from being offended. The very nature of a diverse society is that there will be disagreements, and with disagreements comes being offended.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts."

I agree with this and the reason is because the upbringing and desire to get into TJ and that entire lifestyle does not promote teamwork or collaboration...only individual achievement.

There's a reason why some people aren't promoted into management. While being valuable individual contributors, they aren't seen as team players. Managers and executives need to be well rounded, have a broad view of issues, and be able to communicate and socialize with diverse groups of people. This is not the experience of someone who has prepped to get into TJ since Kindergarten.

This is as bad as saying African Americans don't belong in management because so many of them are uneducated and from the ghetto.

No, not all African Americans are uneducated. No, not all African Americans are from the ghetto. No, not all Asians are unsocial nerds. No, not all Asians go to TJ.

Check your stereotypes and implicit bias.

+1 once again, it's fine to stereotype Asian Americans, but not African Americans.

They don’t think racism against Asians is racism.

I hope my fellow Asians feel some sense of shame for generally supporting a political party that thrives on racism. It's sad that they didn't realize this until these racist policies started affecting Asians.

I guess it depends on what you value in life. If you value equal opportunity and the right to live without being harassed, beaten, or otherwise discriminated against, then you would likely support the Democrats...especially when you compare them to Trump. However, if all you care about is being able to get into an elite school, then go ahead and support Trump. At the end of the day, you'll still be a minority and after you leave your elite high school or college, you'll still be confronted with racism. No, not the same kind of racism that Blacks face but you'll still experience it.

TJ supporters who think the Republican party is a better alternative are very short-sighted. There's more to life than getting into a certain high school or college. You can keep playing the "model minority" game but in the eyes of some people, you will always be the "others".

Dp. Not voting Democrat doesn’t automatically mean voting for Trump.

If neither party cares about Asians, neither party has to have their vote. If Democrats don’t care to include Asians but rather just shame them into going along against their best interests, then it it quite natural to be repelled by that action.

You say ‘equal opportunity’ for all but it is not for all. And Black people would be hypocritical to judge Asians for voting in their best interest. There have been many election cycles where it was clear, outspoken and accepted when they said they wouldn’t vote because neither side cared about them.

It’s disingenuous. But sadly, the entire Democrat platform has also become disingenuous.

Interesting. You mention caring about Asians but you actually mean caring about the top 1% of Asians who have the resources to spend on test prep, tutoring, etc. to go to TJ and elite colleges. Do you even care about the other 99% of Asians in the US that have to struggle and deal with racism like other minorities? As was stated earlier, there's more to life than driving around with a TJ or [insert your ivy league school] sticker.

Uh, you'll have to show proof that 99% of Asians struggle in terms of resources and deal with racism like other minorities. It seems to me that the only racist policy against Asians is Affirmative Action and it's pretty clear who supports Affirmative Action. Those are real actual racists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:These people keep shooting themselves in the foot. Now they have a new petition, which will get them nowhere, to fire Brabrand and the TJ principal because of their efforts to make TJ more welcoming and inclusive.

It’s just a case study in how a community manages to isolate itself and end up ostracized. They care about no one other than themselves and getting their own precious kids into one school by any means possible. At this point, most everyone else would just like them to shut up and leave.

TJ is already plenty welcoming and inclusive. That's not the goal of the proposed lottery and racial balancing. The goal of those efforts is to balance the student body based on the color of their skin, which is racist and illegal. I don't care what kind of political pressure Brabrand is under, he should not cave to demands for illegal racist policies.

[Anonymous]

I hope the School Board sees the non-stop pity party and just shuts down the magnet program altogether. The county could use the additional seats for high school students and putting up with these whiners isn't something any Superintendent or School Board should have to endure.