Discrimination against Asians

Anonymous
The reason TJ admissions is hitting a nerve for Asians is that they believe that STEM is one of the few ways in which they could work hard and excel. They think at least this is fair. Let's face it, they have had trouble being represented in sports (possibly due to genetics). They are not represented in Hollywood (lead roles go to blacks 15% of the time, Asians 1% of the time), or in places of power; politics/governorship/senate/supreme court/cabinet. Although they disproportionately get into top colleges (usually despite discrimination - see what is going on with Harvard and Yale), they face a struggle in career advancement after college.

https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely-group-in-the-u-s-to-be-promoted-to-management

"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts.

It is easy to understand why Asian American representation in the workforce may not seem to be an issue. In some key measures, Asian Americans are the most successful U.S. demographic — more highly educated, for example, and with higher median incomes than any other racial group. More significant, Asian Americans are 12% of the professional workforce while making up only 5.6% of the U.S. population. This fact underlies the potential blind spot for many companies: Because Asian Americans are not considered an underrepresented minority, they are given little priority or attention in diversity programs. We have found that in many companies throughout the country, Asian-related programs are geared toward cultural inclusion, not management diversity."

Look around where everyone works. For me at least the entire senior management is White.

TJ is hitting a nerve because society is again trying to screen them out, in the name of racial balance, in a convoluted way. On the contrary, people should be celebrating the fact that the top high school in the United States can be a minority majority. No one would give a hoot if TJ was 70% Black (or even 70% White). It is also true that Asians are a very diverse group of people themselves (Indian, Chinese, etc. are very different). Asians have come to this area b/c it is one of the most straightforward places for good results: Work hard and you will succeed. No need for connections or wealth or bribes. Some families come to the U.S. after experiencing the Tiananmen square massacre, etc. to give their child a chance at a better life. In response to places like Curie, there is no need to paint all Asians as cheaters. There are only a few and will be exposed sooner or later. I don't know if the claims are true, but I suspect many would have probably gotten into TJ anyway. The vast majority are extra motivated (parent and child) because of such traumatic backgrounds despite English being a second/third language. Most of the time, parents cannot force the kids to be good at math and interested in science and be motivated to work that hard. If you have raised a child, you will agree. The children work hard because for some reason they just do or they see their parents work hard (though they never get up to those management positions).

Whatever your view, there is no need to attack Asians. Come at it with a bit more understanding.
Anonymous
cool story bro
Anonymous

I agree with OP.

Anonymous
Boo hoo! Waaaaaaaaa!! crybaby.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Boo hoo! Waaaaaaaaa!! crybaby.


And there are these people.
Anonymous
I hear you OP.

Reverse discrimination indeed.

One could argue the NFL needs more equality.

Should we also go after the NBA? Not enough Asians, Hispanics, or white guys. Gasp!! I'm appalled. I'm offended! Call a press conference!. Boycott now! Protest.

I demand each state, each county, to pay big bucks for my kids to have a chance to be future star athletes....it wouldn't be fair otherwise.

And where does it stop -lets not exclude LGBTQ, right?
Anonymous
I agree with OP. But Asians is a huge group.
Anonymous
This is 2020. Admissions should be based on academic success, not your skin color. Period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The reason TJ admissions is hitting a nerve for Asians is that they believe that STEM is one of the few ways in which they could work hard and excel. They think at least this is fair. Let's face it, they have had trouble being represented in sports (possibly due to genetics). They are not represented in Hollywood (lead roles go to blacks 15% of the time, Asians 1% of the time), or in places of power; politics/governorship/senate/supreme court/cabinet. Although they disproportionately get into top colleges (usually despite discrimination - see what is going on with Harvard and Yale), they face a struggle in career advancement after college.

https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely-group-in-the-u-s-to-be-promoted-to-management

"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts.

It is easy to understand why Asian American representation in the workforce may not seem to be an issue. In some key measures, Asian Americans are the most successful U.S. demographic — more highly educated, for example, and with higher median incomes than any other racial group. More significant, Asian Americans are 12% of the professional workforce while making up only 5.6% of the U.S. population. This fact underlies the potential blind spot for many companies: Because Asian Americans are not considered an underrepresented minority, they are given little priority or attention in diversity programs. We have found that in many companies throughout the country, Asian-related programs are geared toward cultural inclusion, not management diversity."

Look around where everyone works. For me at least the entire senior management is White.

TJ is hitting a nerve because society is again trying to screen them out, in the name of racial balance, in a convoluted way. On the contrary, people should be celebrating the fact that the top high school in the United States can be a minority majority. No one would give a hoot if TJ was 70% Black (or even 70% White). It is also true that Asians are a very diverse group of people themselves (Indian, Chinese, etc. are very different). Asians have come to this area b/c it is one of the most straightforward places for good results: Work hard and you will succeed. No need for connections or wealth or bribes. Some families come to the U.S. after experiencing the Tiananmen square massacre, etc. to give their child a chance at a better life. In response to places like Curie, there is no need to paint all Asians as cheaters. There are only a few and will be exposed sooner or later. I don't know if the claims are true, but I suspect many would have probably gotten into TJ anyway. The vast majority are extra motivated (parent and child) because of such traumatic backgrounds despite English being a second/third language. Most of the time, parents cannot force the kids to be good at math and interested in science and be motivated to work that hard. If you have raised a child, you will agree. The children work hard because for some reason they just do or they see their parents work hard (though they never get up to those management positions).

Whatever your view, there is no need to attack Asians. Come at it with a bit more understanding.


+1

TJ is not a training ground for future CEOs, senators, or any real influencers of the country. It provides advanced STEM education so those Asian "individual contributors" will make above average salary, while making a lot lot more for the ruling class, and keep the country out front in technologies. The school is not for everyone. Actually most people prefer liberal arts subjects to STEM (See the breakdown of the applicants to TJ). And it takes a lot of hard work to be successful in a school like TJ. It's shocking to see that Asians are stereotyped and discriminated against so openly here is Fairfax county, a so called "progressive" area.

TJ is one of the very few successes you will find in FCPS, all thanks to the teachers and students in spite of the inept school board and bureaucrats. But somewhat because Asians dominate TJ, it must be teared down. Come on democrats in Fairfax county, you can do better than this.
Anonymous
Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)


Make your point without name calling.

What is your point?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This is 2020. Admissions should be based on academic success, not your skin color. Period.


We've all been saying this and it's already a blind admission process.

The problem is FCPS doesn't like the end result...hence the overall.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

I'm Jewish and totally empathize w Asians. Your post is mean.

We don't like being discriminated against, either.
Anonymous
Agree with you
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)


Make your point without name calling.

What is your point?


Jewish compose about 2 percent of U.S. population, but more than double that in Congress, including Chuck Schumer. Before RBG passed away, Jews represented 37.5% of Supreme Court.

That said, Jews have gone through a lot too, not just in this country obviously
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