Discrimination against Asians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is 2020. Admissions should be based on academic success, not your skin color. Period.

We've all been saying this and it's already a blind admission process.

The problem is FCPS doesn't like the end result...hence the overall.

Agree. The radical liberal FCPS board members need to get over themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Jews have white privilege now. It may not have been the case decades ago when there weren't many non-whites around, but it is the case today because of all of the non-whites to whom racism is directed.

[Anonymous]

I agree with you, OP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Jews have white privilege now. It may not have been the case decades ago when there weren't many non-whites around, but it is the case today because of all of the non-whites to whom racism is directed.

Seriously.
"passing as white" must be a novel idea to pp.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Jews have white privilege now. It may not have been the case decades ago when there weren't many non-whites around, but it is the case today because of all of the non-whites to whom racism is directed.

You mean Ashkenazi Jews? I'm part Sephardic with Black Jewish family members. We don't easily pass as white.

There's a large non white Jewish population. Ethiopian Jews for example are blacker than most American blacks. Google falash mura.


Anyway, I sympathize with Asians and with anyone who is discriminated against for any reason

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The reason TJ admissions is hitting a nerve for Asians is that they believe that STEM is one of the few ways in which they could work hard and excel. They think at least this is fair. Let's face it, they have had trouble being represented in sports (possibly due to genetics). They are not represented in Hollywood (lead roles go to blacks 15% of the time, Asians 1% of the time), or in places of power; politics/governorship/senate/supreme court/cabinet. Although they disproportionately get into top colleges (usually despite discrimination - see what is going on with Harvard and Yale), they face a struggle in career advancement after college.

https://hbr.org/2018/05/asian-americans-are-the-least-likely-group-in-the-u-s-to-be-promoted-to-management

"Across the country, the results are the same. Our analysis of national EEOC workforce data found that Asian American white-collar professionals are the least likely group to be promoted from individual contributor roles into management — less likely than any other race, including blacks and Hispanics. And our analysis found that white professionals are about twice as likely to be promoted into management as their Asian American counterparts.

It is easy to understand why Asian American representation in the workforce may not seem to be an issue. In some key measures, Asian Americans are the most successful U.S. demographic — more highly educated, for example, and with higher median incomes than any other racial group. More significant, Asian Americans are 12% of the professional workforce while making up only 5.6% of the U.S. population. This fact underlies the potential blind spot for many companies: Because Asian Americans are not considered an underrepresented minority, they are given little priority or attention in diversity programs. We have found that in many companies throughout the country, Asian-related programs are geared toward cultural inclusion, not management diversity."

Look around where everyone works. For me at least the entire senior management is White.

TJ is hitting a nerve because society is again trying to screen them out, in the name of racial balance, in a convoluted way. On the contrary, people should be celebrating the fact that the top high school in the United States can be a minority majority. No one would give a hoot if TJ was 70% Black (or even 70% White). It is also true that Asians are a very diverse group of people themselves (Indian, Chinese, etc. are very different). Asians have come to this area b/c it is one of the most straightforward places for good results: Work hard and you will succeed. No need for connections or wealth or bribes. Some families come to the U.S. after experiencing the Tiananmen square massacre, etc. to give their child a chance at a better life. In response to places like Curie, there is no need to paint all Asians as cheaters. There are only a few and will be exposed sooner or later. I don't know if the claims are true, but I suspect many would have probably gotten into TJ anyway. The vast majority are extra motivated (parent and child) because of such traumatic backgrounds despite English being a second/third language. Most of the time, parents cannot force the kids to be good at math and interested in science and be motivated to work that hard. If you have raised a child, you will agree. The children work hard because for some reason they just do or they see their parents work hard (though they never get up to those management positions).

Whatever your view, there is no need to attack Asians. Come at it with a bit more understanding.

+1

[Anonymous]

OP Thank you so much for your very well written post.

[Anonymous]

+1

Not fair that hard work to rise in society results in rules being changed to keep Asians down.

[Anonymous]

I agree with OP and most posts here. Sympathy comes from experience. People who have been discriminated against (including Blacks, Hispanics, and Jews) will understand. They will understand that switching to a lottery system all of a sudden is discrimination because it is targeting a minority in this society. Forget about TJ. In the U.S., Asians are 5.6 percent. The fact that this minority which faces so many more obstacles in this society (compared to Whites) manages to populate the number one school in a meaningful way should be applauded.

[Anonymous]

NH Governor Chris Sununu went to TJ. There are a lot of accomplished TJ alumni.

[Anonymous]

This whole thing reminds me suppression of Jewish people too.

Harvard once put a 15% cap on Jewish people simply because there were two many Jews. It was later ruled unconstitutional.

Shame on those people who think “too many Asians” is somehow automatically a problem.

[Anonymous]

OP, I agree with you. I also think that anybody who classifies/groups people by race is a racist. Politicians do that in order to pursue the "divide and conquer" strategy, and unfortunately they've been successful thus far. They celebrate their victory seeing how others attack "Asians" and how some Asians talk back saying that a white child can't compete with an average Asian child. This is so sad to read. We should unite, not allow politicians to divide us by colors or breeds like dogs.

[Anonymous]

Big pity party but probably the usual crowd trying to convince Fairfax to go red again. Boo hoo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Big pity party but probably the usual crowd trying to convince Fairfax to go red again. Boo hoo.

Big pity parties are what discriminated people have. Have you been to one?

[Anonymous]

The problem with the hardcore focus on stem is that many times it limits you to individual contributor roles which mean less money. I worked in an engineering office. The Civil and Structural Engineers made what I would call mid tier salaries and they did not have much in the way of future salary increases.

I made easily double what the engineers were earning. I did sales for an affiliated business with my Bus. Admin degree from University of Delaware.

Stem grads are frequently working in labs and other businesses in individual contributor roles.