Indoor Basketball Rec Leagues not requiring masks during practice and games!!!!

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Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


Not if they aren't at school. How would they be spreading it, exactly?
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Anonymous wrote:More like truth. Happy Reading

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/07/20/kids-spread-covid-19-study - New Study Shows Kids Over 10 Years Old Spread COVID-19 As Much As Adults Do

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/study-kids-10-and-older-spread-covid-as-effectively-as-adults/ - Children younger than 10 transmit to others much less often than adults do, but the risk is not zero. And those between the ages of 10 and 19 can spread the virus at least as well as adults do.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/07/coronavirus-infection-spread-in-children-cvd/ - One robust study of nearly 65,000 kids published by the South Korean Center for Disease Control last week showed that children in the 10- to 19-year-old age range could spread COVID-19 within households just as effectively as adults.




These points would only be relevant if adults were required to wear masks while working out indoors at the gym or in an indoor workout class. Since adults are allowed to exercise unmasked, kids are allowed to do it too. It doesn't matter whether 10 or 12 year olds spread more covid. Virginia allows it and this is a voluntary activity.


I personally would not let my child play indoor basketball. We're a swim family. If you are worried OP have your child wear a mask, it will give you a little more protection, not much as you will actually be protecting the other players more than your own child but it's better than no mask so if someone sneezes on your child, maybe the mask will help. Add goggles too.


If you were a basketball family, you would probably feel differently. Swim has been open since early summer, so your kids have had the benefits of exercise, seeing their friends, etc. Our kids haven't been able to play team basketball since last March.

I didn't get the sense OP was planning on signing her kid up, just didn't want other people to be "allowed" to on the off chance their germs are floating around days later somehow still infectious.


I'm the PP who is from a swim family and you're wrong. I would not expose my child to an indoor sport that did not practice social distancing and especially one that allowed kids to be close AND maskless. If swim wasn't limiting lane use and allowing kids to breathe on one another we would not be doing it.


I’m confused. I don’t really see a distinction between what your letting your kids do vs. the kids playing basketball. You can’t swim in a face mask. They are all breathing in and out in the same indoor air and they are maskless when getting in and out of the pool and maybe on deck too. There’s no air circulation in those indoor pools-I would rather be in the gym with the doors propped open for fresh air personally. This is one of those situations where people justify what they want to do and criticize what other people want to do....


I'm confused why you're confused about the difference between swim, which during COVID is a heavily staggered individual sport, often with lanes purposely left empty between swimmers for safety reasons, and your kids breathing face to face for an entire team basketball game as they BY THE DEFINITION OF THE SPORT get into each others' faces within arm's reach to grab a ball.

But I suspect you're not actually confused, just willfully obtuse, because it fits what you want to do.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


The only people my asymptomatic child would be spreading covid to would be people who also signed their kids up to play basketball. He wears masks in public and public schools have given up for the whole year. Our family has done our fair share of sacrificing for the common good.
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Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


Not if they aren't at school. How would they be spreading it, exactly?


They never leave the house? You never let them do ANYTHING that involves contact with other people except basketball? BS.

Also, I'm sure you and your spouse and other kids all wear masks and socially distance from each other at home, right? Because surely you're not dumb enough to think that your asyptomatic kid can't spread it to the family, right? Who then can spread it asymptomatically or presymptomatically when THEY leave the house?

God, the willfull dimness is astounding.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:More like truth. Happy Reading

https://www.wbur.org/hereandnow/2020/07/20/kids-spread-covid-19-study - New Study Shows Kids Over 10 Years Old Spread COVID-19 As Much As Adults Do

https://khn.org/morning-breakout/study-kids-10-and-older-spread-covid-as-effectively-as-adults/ - Children younger than 10 transmit to others much less often than adults do, but the risk is not zero. And those between the ages of 10 and 19 can spread the virus at least as well as adults do.


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/07/coronavirus-infection-spread-in-children-cvd/ - One robust study of nearly 65,000 kids published by the South Korean Center for Disease Control last week showed that children in the 10- to 19-year-old age range could spread COVID-19 within households just as effectively as adults.




These points would only be relevant if adults were required to wear masks while working out indoors at the gym or in an indoor workout class. Since adults are allowed to exercise unmasked, kids are allowed to do it too. It doesn't matter whether 10 or 12 year olds spread more covid. Virginia allows it and this is a voluntary activity.


I personally would not let my child play indoor basketball. We're a swim family. If you are worried OP have your child wear a mask, it will give you a little more protection, not much as you will actually be protecting the other players more than your own child but it's better than no mask so if someone sneezes on your child, maybe the mask will help. Add goggles too.


If you were a basketball family, you would probably feel differently. Swim has been open since early summer, so your kids have had the benefits of exercise, seeing their friends, etc. Our kids haven't been able to play team basketball since last March.

I didn't get the sense OP was planning on signing her kid up, just didn't want other people to be "allowed" to on the off chance their germs are floating around days later somehow still infectious.


I'm the PP who is from a swim family and you're wrong. I would not expose my child to an indoor sport that did not practice social distancing and especially one that allowed kids to be close AND maskless. If swim wasn't limiting lane use and allowing kids to breathe on one another we would not be doing it.


I’m confused. I don’t really see a distinction between what your letting your kids do vs. the kids playing basketball. You can’t swim in a face mask. They are all breathing in and out in the same indoor air and they are maskless when getting in and out of the pool and maybe on deck too. There’s no air circulation in those indoor pools-I would rather be in the gym with the doors propped open for fresh air personally. This is one of those situations where people justify what they want to do and criticize what other people want to do....


I'm confused why you're confused about the difference between swim, which during COVID is a heavily staggered individual sport, often with lanes purposely left empty between swimmers for safety reasons, and your kids breathing face to face for an entire team basketball game as they BY THE DEFINITION OF THE SPORT get into each others' faces within arm's reach to grab a ball.

But I suspect you're not actually confused, just willfully obtuse, because it fits what you want to do.


Wow. Maybe you are justifying what you want to do? You seem a tad defensive. Not pp, but in both cases, i would point out that maskless kids are exhaling into a closed air area (a gym, an indoor pool) and then breathing that air back in...
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


Not if they aren't at school. How would they be spreading it, exactly?


They never leave the house? You never let them do ANYTHING that involves contact with other people except basketball? BS.

Also, I'm sure you and your spouse and other kids all wear masks and socially distance from each other at home, right? Because surely you're not dumb enough to think that your asyptomatic kid can't spread it to the family, right? Who then can spread it asymptomatically or presymptomatically when THEY leave the house?

God, the willfull dimness is astounding.


Don't be absurd. Who are we spreading COVID to, exactly? Amongst each other in our household? Willing to take the chance. To other people? Seems pretty difficult with no school, distancing, and masks.
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Anonymous wrote:Our kids travel coach(for a Fairfax county league-that will compete in FYBL) sent an email for practice time starting in January. It said mask are mandatory at practice and a check in with questions are also mandatory each practice. We haven’t heard about games yet. Strange as the league also has rec/developmental that practice in same FCPS gyms. What Rec teams are not requiring masks?


My kids are signed up to play Burke rec using Fairfax gyms. We were told masks were mandatory for adults and kids on the bench during games but not for the kids during active play. No spectators.



You will be getting an update soon.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


Not if they aren't at school. How would they be spreading it, exactly?


They never leave the house? You never let them do ANYTHING that involves contact with other people except basketball? BS.

Also, I'm sure you and your spouse and other kids all wear masks and socially distance from each other at home, right? Because surely you're not dumb enough to think that your asyptomatic kid can't spread it to the family, right? Who then can spread it asymptomatically or presymptomatically when THEY leave the house?

God, the willfull dimness is astounding.


People who are comfortable with the risk of swimming, or basketball, or adult spin classes, or flying, or in person school etc etc etc choose to do those things. People doing what they are allowed to do by the state COVID policies seem to really get you worked up. If you absolutely cannot risk Covid, you personally need to stay home and self isolate until its your turn for the vaccine.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


The only people my asymptomatic child would be spreading covid to would be people who also signed their kids up to play basketball.
He wears masks in public and public schools have given up for the whole year. Our family has done our fair share of sacrificing for the common good.


Oh, ok, so just those people! Got it. Nothing to see here! *eye roll*
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Our kids travel coach(for a Fairfax county league-that will compete in FYBL) sent an email for practice time starting in January. It said mask are mandatory at practice and a check in with questions are also mandatory each practice. We haven’t heard about games yet. Strange as the league also has rec/developmental that practice in same FCPS gyms. What Rec teams are not requiring masks?


My kids are signed up to play Burke rec using Fairfax gyms. We were told masks were mandatory for adults and kids on the bench during games but not for the kids during active play. No spectators.



You will be getting an update soon.


Are you going to post a link to the Fairfax County guidance on this?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


The only people my asymptomatic child would be spreading covid to would be people who also signed their kids up to play basketball.
He wears masks in public and public schools have given up for the whole year. Our family has done our fair share of sacrificing for the common good.


Oh, ok, so just those people! Got it. Nothing to see here! *eye roll*


Sounds reasonable to me. Those people are also comfortable with the risk.

Why are you so angry?
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


The only people my asymptomatic child would be spreading covid to would be people who also signed their kids up to play basketball.
He wears masks in public and public schools have given up for the whole year. Our family has done our fair share of sacrificing for the common good.


Oh, ok, so just those people! Got it. Nothing to see here! *eye roll*


Sounds reasonable to me. Those people are also comfortable with the risk.

Why are you so angry?


Not PP but how do you know they're comfortable with the risk? Maybe they signed up thinking the league would follow FCPS rules. I know we did and we were ready to pull our 3 from rec league when I saw this thread. I ended up emailing the head of our league and they informed me the county is requiring masks so we're staying. But had the league agreed to allow practice and games without masks we would not have let our kids play
Anonymous
My kids will play in masks if they are required to. It seems a bit like Covid Theater, the masks will be drenched in sweat and flopping all around so really not sure how effective they would be, but OK, whatever.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Healthy kids playing basketball without masks on surrounded by adults with masks on sounds safer than adults sitting around eating and drinking indoors without masks surrounded by masked waiters (but the second activity has been allowed in VA for months).


Not OP and I don't have an issue but you're assuming the kids are healthy. They can be asymptomatic.


It's possible. So what? People can choose to assume that risk, or not.


"So what?" Your asyptomatic kids can spread it to others, you jerk.

Selfish, selfish, selfish.


The only people my asymptomatic child would be spreading covid to would be people who also signed their kids up to play basketball.
He wears masks in public and public schools have given up for the whole year. Our family has done our fair share of sacrificing for the common good.


Oh, ok, so just those people! Got it. Nothing to see here! *eye roll*


Sounds reasonable to me. Those people are also comfortable with the risk.

Why are you so angry?


Not PP but how do you know they're comfortable with the risk? Maybe they signed up thinking the league would follow FCPS rules. I know we did and we were ready to pull our 3 from rec league when I saw this thread. I ended up emailing the head of our league and they informed me the county is requiring masks so we're staying. But had the league agreed to allow practice and games without masks we would not have let our kids play


Which league?
Anonymous
I think its fair to assume that someone participating in an activity is comfortable with the activity. I'm sure leagues will give refunds to families who aren't happy with the covid protocols.
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