Relative misrepresented that they bought a house

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Op is right. If he is not on the title he is not a owner. So he is a liar regardless of circumstances.


I agree. By why lie about something like this?


Actually no. Someone posted to explain they were a co-owner but online you could only find their spouse’s name as the owner

So OP, stop it.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow my husband and I just bought a house and I’m not on the title since I own other property it would’ve complicated the loan process and he qualified on his own. We’ve been married 29 years!


You are ***MARRIED***.
Anonymous
I have never, ever looked up after a member of the family or a friend bought a house on the county records to see whose name is on it. I have checked on Zillow how much houses close to mine sold for when the data showed up on zillow.

My DH could not own a property in my country few years ago. Now it changed but there are still restrictions for foreigners. Such as agricultural land or land near military bases. I have an apartment given to me from my parents. I consider it ours, regardless of what the paper says. In case of my demise, it will go to my husband without any taxes to pay. Rules have changed as I said and foreigners can own such a property.
You truly need to learn to mind your own business op! This is the height of Hyacinth Bucket behavior. Nobody likes you, know that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Wow my husband and I just bought a house and I’m not on the title since I own other property it would’ve complicated the loan process and he qualified on his own. We’ve been married 29 years!


Do you think people do not divorce after 29 years? They do.
Anonymous
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I don't understand. Who looked up the public record? Why?

Maybe they're making mortgage payments but didn't have the credit score to secure as good a loan as the SO.

Why do you care?


Gimme a break. A broke cousin dating someone buys a house, and you look up if it was her or him or both of them? Considering they’re not married I would have asked her how that went down. Sounds like it could be a mess down the road.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Op is right. If he is not on the title he is not a owner. So he is a liar regardless of circumstances.


I agree. By why lie about something like this?


Actually no. Someone posted to explain they were a co-owner but online you could only find their spouse’s name as the owner

So OP, stop it.



+1 Unless OP physically examined the property records, she has no way of knowing who all the owners are. My ILs, DH and I jointly own property. Looking at the records online, my name and DH's name don't appear. If you look at the records at the courthouse, our names are clearly on titles. It created a bit of a problem when we were living in a condo. The HOA didn't want to issue me an owner's badge because their means of identifying owners was to look at the the online record. I had to prove I was an owner.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Agree that this is not your information to share. I also think that you were nosy for snooping around in their personal business like that.

I would wonder about a person who purposely misled others into believing that they actually owned a property that they did not own, though. Especially, if they are not even married to their SO. Does the person understand that their name is not on the title and that they have no legal claim to the property? If not, are they being duped into paying the mortgage on a property that they do not own and have no legal claim to. That, right there, would be more of a worry to me than if they had misrepresented their home purchase in order to get housewarming gifts or even just to impress others.

It would be like me inviting family members to a college graduation party....even though I hadn't actually graduated from college or telling people that I had gotten married even if I hadn't really done so.

It would be misleading if the person claimed to own it, and was really renting. This isn't that.


I mean it's misleading because they may be going in for half of the mortgage but they still do not actually own the property. "My boyfriend let's me live in his house in exchange for me paying half of the mortgage" is not the same thing as "I own this property". If my friend was also putting her own money into fixing up/maintaining a property that she had no ownership rights to then I would be a bit concerned for her. Acting "like" and owner doesn't make you an owner.


It seems like a REALLY weird line to draw with a friend. I don't GAF what their personal arrangements are.


Why lie about something that other people, though? Why purposely tell your family/friends that you bought a house when you did not. That would be like your boyfriend allowing you to drive one of his cars and you saying "Look everyone! I bought a car!!" Why go out of your way to present yourself in a way that is not true? I think it's the deliberate deception that is concerning.

Back when dh and I were living together people often assumed that we were a married couple. We weren't intentionally telling people that we were married and if someone asked if we were married or mentioned that they thought that we were married we would quickly set the record straight.

Why pretend to be something your not? I just don't understand the reasoning I guess.


And WHY are you so fixated on this??

I'm guessing I know the WHY they're telling people they bought the house -- because there are assh0le people like you in every family that believe that they are morally, ethically & financially superior to them in every single way and they've never let an opportunity pass to let them forget it.

Im guessing I also know the WHY they're pretending they're something they're not -- see the answer to the previous "WHY".

You are the assh0le every single time in these scenarios OP... every single time and you sound like an absolutely bitter, MISERABLE person who uses others shortcomings against them.

Your wretched sanctimonious attitude is disgusting and out of the two of you, I have *far* less respect for you than your relative, the new home owner.

I hope they're very happy in their new home and I also pray that they find this thread, so they know what a horrible human being you are.

You're completely lacking in moral fiber, decency and graciousness and not someone I'd ever want around me or my family.

Leave this relative with their dignity and leave their lives too.
Anonymous

^ Oh, and start addressing your posts as the OP.
Stop acting like you're not yourself and that you're in support of the OP.

We all know these are from you -- say you're you in your posts.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
^ Oh, and start addressing your posts as the OP.
Stop acting like you're not yourself and that you're in support of the OP.

We all know these are from you -- say you're you in your posts.


Not true, I’m OP and only wrote the initial post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Everyone was congratulatory and proud of 40-something family member for settling down and buying a home. Turns out from public records that their SO actually bought it and is the only one on title. Why would someone lie about something like that? Would your opinion of this person change?


Did family member actually say "I bought a home" or was that inferred by all the proud family when person said "X and I finally found our perfect house in Whoville!"? And yes, perhaps the family member's credit rating, student loan debt, whatever, made it preferable for the SO to purchase now and family member's name will be added when they are legally married or something.

MYOB.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
^ Oh, and start addressing your posts as the OP.
Stop acting like you're not yourself and that you're in support of the OP.

We all know these are from you -- say you're you in your posts.


Not true, I’m OP and only wrote the initial post.


How do you feel about the reaction you've gotten OP?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree that this is not your information to share. I also think that you were nosy for snooping around in their personal business like that.

I would wonder about a person who purposely misled others into believing that they actually owned a property that they did not own, though. Especially, if they are not even married to their SO. Does the person understand that their name is not on the title and that they have no legal claim to the property? If not, are they being duped into paying the mortgage on a property that they do not own and have no legal claim to. That, right there, would be more of a worry to me than if they had misrepresented their home purchase in order to get housewarming gifts or even just to impress others.

It would be like me inviting family members to a college graduation party....even though I hadn't actually graduated from college or telling people that I had gotten married even if I hadn't really done so.

It would be misleading if the person claimed to own it, and was really renting. This isn't that.


I mean it's misleading because they may be going in for half of the mortgage but they still do not actually own the property. "My boyfriend let's me live in his house in exchange for me paying half of the mortgage" is not the same thing as "I own this property". If my friend was also putting her own money into fixing up/maintaining a property that she had no ownership rights to then I would be a bit concerned for her. Acting "like" and owner doesn't make you an owner.


It seems like a REALLY weird line to draw with a friend. I don't GAF what their personal arrangements are.


Why lie about something that other people, though? Why purposely tell your family/friends that you bought a house when you did not. That would be like your boyfriend allowing you to drive one of his cars and you saying "Look everyone! I bought a car!!" Why go out of your way to present yourself in a way that is not true? I think it's the deliberate deception that is concerning.

Back when dh and I were living together people often assumed that we were a married couple. We weren't intentionally telling people that we were married and if someone asked if we were married or mentioned that they thought that we were married we would quickly set the record straight.

Why pretend to be something your not? I just don't understand the reasoning I guess.


And WHY are you so fixated on this??

I'm guessing I know the WHY they're telling people they bought the house -- because there are assh0le people like you in every family that believe that they are morally, ethically & financially superior to them in every single way and they've never let an opportunity pass to let them forget it.

Im guessing I also know the WHY they're pretending they're something they're not -- see the answer to the previous "WHY".

You are the assh0le every single time in these scenarios OP... every single time and you sound like an absolutely bitter, MISERABLE person who uses others shortcomings against them.

Your wretched sanctimonious attitude is disgusting and out of the two of you, I have *far* less respect for you than your relative, the new home owner.

I hope they're very happy in their new home and I also pray that they find this thread, so they know what a horrible human being you are.

You're completely lacking in moral fiber, decency and graciousness and not someone I'd ever want around me or my family.

Leave this relative with their dignity and leave their lives too.


First off, I am NOT the Op. If I was the Op I would not be pretending to be somebody else. Not my style. Although someone like yourself thinks that it's perfectly normal to pretend that you are something/someone other than you truly are.

My guess is that the Op had his/her reasons for looking this relative's info up. Was it sort of intrusive of Op to do that even though this is all public information - yes. And, if Op did this just to find a reason to gossip and put this relative down, then Op truly sucks. If, however, Op checked this out because this particular relative has a history of not being completely upfront/honest about things and Op had a hinky feeling about this...then, yeah, I can see why Op might have checked the records.

Now the question as many of us (me included) have pointed out in other posts - how accurate are those records? Does Op's online check guarantee that her relative does not own the property? That is not clear. It is possible, though not very likely, that the relative actually does own the property but is simply not listed as an owner in the online property search.

Op should can file that info in the back of her mind but no way should she go around gossiping about this - UNLESS that relative is trying to portray herself as more financially secure than she really is in an attempt to trick other people. More than likely, even if the relative is lying, it is not being done for nefarious purposes.
Anonymous
Tsk tsk tsk

Jealous?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Tsk tsk tsk

Jealous?


Of what?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
^ Oh, and start addressing your posts as the OP.
Stop acting like you're not yourself and that you're in support of the OP.

We all know these are from you -- say you're you in your posts.


Not true, I’m OP and only wrote the initial post.


How do you feel about the reaction you've gotten OP?


I’m OP. Not surprised. I will say I haven’t gossiped about the information I learned. I’m not about to tell anyone about it. I can see everyone’s point that it’s none of my business. As far as creepy, it’s so easy to look up and other friends/relatives have admitted doing the same thing to their acquaintances/friends/relatives. I don’t fall in the category of people who are always checking up on others (I know someone like this). Most of the time, I really don’t care. This relative, however, was pretty smug about buying a house (among other things they brag about). I was skeptical because they have a bankruptcy, owes back child support, and has a low paying job.
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