Pediatricians advising against daycare?

[Anonymous]

The nanny rate will drop relative to a center. Unless there’s a huge child care relief bill, tuition will go up due costs for masks, sanitizer, thermoscan thermoters, etc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My friend’s pediatrician said her three year old should not attend because the grandmother who lives with them has metastatic breast cancer.

Of course -- that's a specific situation that isn't applicable to a child with no risk factors, living with parents who have no risk factors.

Here’s the thing, in America MOST people have risk factors. Most people are either obese or have diabetes or asthma or immune issues. Truly. Our baseline health is god awful. And the denial on this point is so strange. Hell, my 73 year old father with a heart condition thought he’d “be fine” because he walks six miles a day and lifts weights. Yeah no.

[Anonymous]

WOw thread went off the rails.

OP, my ped has advised me of the medical risks of daycare and it is her medical opinion that the various measures - masks, temp checks, less kids - will not be effective to eliminate spread of covid once people are back at work. She also feels strongly that cold/flu season will exacerbate spread because of increased coughing and sneezing. We won’t be was sending our son back.

[Anonymous]

I will

- juice wrld

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:WOw thread went off the rails.

OP, my ped has advised me of the medical risks of daycare and it is her medical opinion that the various measures - masks, temp checks, less kids - will not be effective to eliminate spread of covid once people are back at work. She also feels strongly that cold/flu season will exacerbate spread because of increased coughing and sneezing. We won’t be was sending our son back.

Same. Well stop 529/retirement contributions for a couple years to pay for a nanny. Worth the peace of mind.

[Anonymous]

PP. I’m in the same boat. We will be using an au pair

[Anonymous]

If Dr. Fauci is unsure of whether or not it will even be safe for older kids to return to school this fall with masks and in desks 6 ft apart, how can daycares be considered even remotely safe right now?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Dr. Fauci is unsure of whether or not it will even be safe for older kids to return to school this fall with masks and in desks 6 ft apart, how can daycares be considered even remotely safe right now?

Well, some people don’t have a choice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP. I’m in the same boat. We will be using an au pair

Where the hell are you getting an au pair right now?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:PP. I’m in the same boat. We will be using an au pair

Where the hell are you getting an au pair right now?!

China . We got the hookup. Hollar if you hear me

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Dr. Fauci is unsure of whether or not it will even be safe for older kids to return to school this fall with masks and in desks 6 ft apart, how can daycares be considered even remotely safe right now?

The decision makers will need to acknowledge that without schools/childcare, opening of other parts of the economy will be limited. There seems to be a fundamental lack of understanding about that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Dr. Fauci is unsure of whether or not it will even be safe for older kids to return to school this fall with masks and in desks 6 ft apart, how can daycares be considered even remotely safe right now?

Well, some people don’t have a choice.

Everybody has a choice. What would you do if your kid was in kindergarten? No school. No camp this summer. Now what.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Dr. Fauci is unsure of whether or not it will even be safe for older kids to return to school this fall with masks and in desks 6 ft apart, how can daycares be considered even remotely safe right now?

Well, some people don’t have a choice.

Everybody has a choice. What would you do if your kid was in kindergarten? No school. No camp this summer. Now what.

Stop. For many healthcare workers and first responders, quitting their jobs is not a realistic choice. They need childcare. I have no idea how this thread turned into a "bash essential workers" thread. My job and DHs job can thankfully be done by home, and we're switching to a nanny based on our pediatrician's recommendation. We are incredibly privileged to be able to do so, and plenty of people are not in that boat. Have some empathy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Dr. Fauci is unsure of whether or not it will even be safe for older kids to return to school this fall with masks and in desks 6 ft apart, how can daycares be considered even remotely safe right now?

Well, some people don’t have a choice.

Everybody has a choice. What would you do if your kid was in kindergarten? No school. No camp this summer. Now what.

Stop. For many healthcare workers and first responders, quitting their jobs is not a realistic choice. They need childcare. I have no idea how this thread turned into a "bash essential workers" thread. My job and DHs job can thankfully be done by home, and we're switching to a nanny based on our pediatrician's recommendation. We are incredibly privileged to be able to do so, and plenty of people are not in that boat. Have some empathy.

For the millionth time. There is not a single essential worker without childcare right now. No one is lacking empathy. People are lacking brains and creativity. Everyone wants the safety and convenience that they had in January. That is gone. It’s time to start brainstorming and find a new normal.

[Anonymous]

This is one of the stupider threads I've seen on DCUM (and there have been some doozies.) Ponder if you will, the following breakdown of employment by industry sector in the US: ~13% are in manufacturing and construction; ~80% are in services, including retail, leisure and hospitality, etc. In other words, most Americans work in industries, where they can't get creative with their work schedules or work from home and still expect to keep a job. Also (and I don't have stats for this, just anecdotal evidence), a lot of parents would love to stay at home with their kids until this blows over. But, in order to keep said kids clothed, fed, to be able to pay the bills for that pediatrician that so helpfully told them not to send their kids back to daycare, etc., they need to, you know, work to make money.

On top of that, we as a society are having kids later in life/tend to move around more than ever before, so the traditional safety net of family to take care of the kids is simply no longer there. Add in the massive income gap and the fact that middle class wages are barely keeping pace with inflation, while the cost of living (housing, education, health care, child care) have exploded -- what it adds up to is that for most Americans, daycare is not a "nice-to-have," it's a "must-have," if they hope to keep their head above water financially.

And no, Francine, most Americans can't simply afford to "hire a nanny," "bring in an au pair," "negotiate flex time with their employer." And it doesn't matter one bit, if from your UMC bubble you happen to think it's gross or irresponsible. For the economy to reopen, daycare needs to reopen as well. If it doesn't, the only choice for most two-parent working families would be for one to stop working and stay at home (not even talking about the impossible choices faced by single parents), which would drive them further into poverty and stretch the barely-there social safety net we have in place now. More demand on your taxpayer dollar! That should get your attention