Pediatricians advising against daycare?

[Anonymous]

I’ve seen it mentioned in more than one post on DCUM that a pediatrician has recommended against a family sending their child back to daycare. However it wasn’t stated whether the family had a specific risk factor. Has anyone asked their pediatrician about this and heard a different answer?

[Anonymous]

When my pediatrician pays my daycare bill then they can have a opinion on what I do. Till then I’m using my own judgement.

[Anonymous]

Our pediatrician has not advised against daycare per se; rather, the practice’s opinion is that, despite the best efforts of daycares, they will be unable to meaningfully prevent the spread of the virus, so parents need to make the choice and be ok with daycare kids likely bringing the virus home. The pediatrician emphasized that, baring any huge uptick in the new ped disease that’s emerging, the risk is greater to the parents than kids.

[Anonymous]

The only thread I saw was because their kid had RSV recently...

[Anonymous]

Ours was pretty adamant last week to keep DD (1 year old) home if we could, mostly because of the risk to us.

However, it seems to me like there might be more of a risk to young children than originally thought with that multi-system inflammatory thing. The more we learn about this f**** virus, it's just never good. Almost like it was meant to stay in an animal and not a human.

I don't think there is a good answer for daycare parents at this point. Need the child care, but it seems inevitable that it will spread like wild fire through daycares. I am pretty despondent about it. DH is more cavalier about it, so I will vent here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ours was pretty adamant last week to keep DD (1 year old) home if we could, mostly because of the risk to us.

However, it seems to me like there might be more of a risk to young children than originally thought with that multi-system inflammatory thing. The more we learn about this f**** virus, it's just never good. Almost like it was meant to stay in an animal and not a human.

I don't think there is a good answer for daycare parents at this point. Need the child care, but it seems inevitable that it will spread like wild fire through daycares. I am pretty despondent about it. DH is more cavalier about it, so I will vent here.

Maybe, but I don’t think we know that yet. Sweden never closed childcare centers IIRC. Denmark has reopened theirs I think. Any other countries? Have their been any documented daycare outbreaks anywhere?

The fact of the matter is that you cannot really open the economy without opening childcare. Many of our politician leaders seem pretty oblivious to this. I think what will happen is that a lot of parents will keep their kids home anyway, but sooner or later you need to give parents the option IF you are asking them to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ours was pretty adamant last week to keep DD (1 year old) home if we could, mostly because of the risk to us.

However, it seems to me like there might be more of a risk to young children than originally thought with that multi-system inflammatory thing. The more we learn about this f**** virus, it's just never good. Almost like it was meant to stay in an animal and not a human.

I don't think there is a good answer for daycare parents at this point. Need the child care, but it seems inevitable that it will spread like wild fire through daycares. I am pretty despondent about it. DH is more cavalier about it, so I will vent here.

Maybe, but I don’t think we know that yet. Sweden never closed childcare centers IIRC. Denmark has reopened theirs I think. Any other countries? Have their been any documented daycare outbreaks anywhere?

The fact of the matter is that you cannot really open the economy without opening childcare. Many of our politician leaders seem pretty oblivious to this. I think what will happen is that a lot of parents will keep their kids home anyway, but sooner or later you need to give parents the option IF you are asking them to work.

It’s happening a lot in Canada.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/twelve-children-infected-with-covid-19-in-quebecs-first-daycare-outbreak

https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/126526

I’m sure it’s happening here too, but since we aren’t testing asymptomatic kids on a regular basis like they are, it shows up as one infected family or staff member at a time instead of an “outbreak.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ours was pretty adamant last week to keep DD (1 year old) home if we could, mostly because of the risk to us.

However, it seems to me like there might be more of a risk to young children than originally thought with that multi-system inflammatory thing. The more we learn about this f**** virus, it's just never good. Almost like it was meant to stay in an animal and not a human.

I don't think there is a good answer for daycare parents at this point. Need the child care, but it seems inevitable that it will spread like wild fire through daycares. I am pretty despondent about it. DH is more cavalier about it, so I will vent here.

Maybe, but I don’t think we know that yet. Sweden never closed childcare centers IIRC. Denmark has reopened theirs I think. Any other countries? Have their been any documented daycare outbreaks anywhere?

The fact of the matter is that you cannot really open the economy without opening childcare. Many of our politician leaders seem pretty oblivious to this. I think what will happen is that a lot of parents will keep their kids home anyway, but sooner or later you need to give parents the option IF you are asking them to work.

It’s happening a lot in Canada.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/twelve-children-infected-with-covid-19-in-quebecs-first-daycare-outbreak

https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/126526

I’m sure it’s happening here too, but since we aren’t testing asymptomatic kids on a regular basis like they are, it shows up as one infected family or staff member at a time instead of an “outbreak.”

Our pediatrician is of the opinion that there will absolutely 100% be covid spread in daycares, absent a major medical breakthrough, so that really should factor in to your decision to send kids back. He was also clear that it's one factor in many (finances, social development of kids, health and risk of people in the household). The risk is more to the adult family members of the kid in daycare (unless this kawasaki illness explodes - too soon to tell).

[Anonymous]

My daughter has been going to daycare this entire time, since we are essential workers.

There have been no cases among teachers or kids at her center.

I haven't heard of any cases in MD linked to daycares.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ours was pretty adamant last week to keep DD (1 year old) home if we could, mostly because of the risk to us.

However, it seems to me like there might be more of a risk to young children than originally thought with that multi-system inflammatory thing. The more we learn about this f**** virus, it's just never good. Almost like it was meant to stay in an animal and not a human.

I don't think there is a good answer for daycare parents at this point. Need the child care, but it seems inevitable that it will spread like wild fire through daycares. I am pretty despondent about it. DH is more cavalier about it, so I will vent here.

Maybe, but I don’t think we know that yet. Sweden never closed childcare centers IIRC. Denmark has reopened theirs I think. Any other countries? Have their been any documented daycare outbreaks anywhere?

The fact of the matter is that you cannot really open the economy without opening childcare. Many of our politician leaders seem pretty oblivious to this. I think what will happen is that a lot of parents will keep their kids home anyway, but sooner or later you need to give parents the option IF you are asking them to work.[/quote]

It’s happening a lot in Canada.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/twelve-children-infected-with-covid-19-in-quebecs-first-daycare-outbreak

https://www.durhamradionews.com/archives/126526

I’m sure it’s happening here too, but since we aren’t testing asymptomatic kids on a regular basis like they are, it shows up as one infected family or staff member at a time instead of an “outbreak.”

I've been saying for a while that the daycare dilemma is NOT getting the media or political attention that it needs because it doesn't look like visibly disrupted education.

However, daycare parents face a much tougher decision in my opinion. It's riskier to send them back to daycare, and it's more necessary in terms of just someone watching the kid ALL THE TIME.

Further compounding the dilemma is that daycares occupy this weird no-man's land between schools, which are shut per the government, and essential businesses. They are often deemed essential but have been shut for a while anyway because they are petri dishes of illness in the best of times. Unlike public schools, they are for-profit businesses that are going to need to open to stay afloat even if it's not the safest decision.

At least for me, I don't see any "good" decisions at this point, only necessary decisions depending on what a family needs and the risk they can tolerate.

Without testing it sucks. Everything sucks. Much like my RSV experience this winter, once you get that e-mail about an infection it's too late.

[Anonymous]

I just looked up "covid outbreak preschool" in Google news and found zero articles about cases linked to preschools. As you all know, there are still many preschools serving essential workers.

While I don't doubt we will eventually find cases linked to preschools/daycares, I think you're overblowing the notion that "COVID will run like wildfire through them."

The places open now are taking a ton of precautions and I imagine they will have to continue to do so when they reopen to more kids.

[Anonymous]

This is key. Kids are often asymptomatic. Unless they are tested regularly you aren’t going to document an outbreak. Childcare is absolutely one of the primary factors contributing to spread right now and will continue to be a major risk until a vaccine exists.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is key. Kids are often asymptomatic. Unless they are tested regularly you aren’t going to document an outbreak. Childcare is absolutely one of the primary factors contributing to spread right now and will continue to be a major risk until a vaccine exists.

Can you prove that childcare is one of the primary factors contributing to spread right now?

[Anonymous]

My friend’s pediatrician said her three year old should not attend because the grandmother who lives with them has metastatic breast cancer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My friend’s pediatrician said her three year old should not attend because the grandmother who lives with them has metastatic breast cancer.

Of course -- that's a specific situation that isn't applicable to a child with no risk factors, living with parents who have no risk factors.