APS Elementary Planning Mtg at Swanson - Option 1 in, Option 2 out, McKinley Moms out of contro

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

No. She said the people were called unhinged b/c they were non-white. She wasn't there. They just jumped to conclusions that someone acting crazy was called out for it b/c she didn't think the crazies were white. They were. They all were.

Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

That is verbatim what I heard a south Fairlington father say to pump up his neighbors a year ago at a community meeting at Kenmore middle school— “get loud”. What followed were constant interruptions of staff, petulant, rude and juvenile interjections, fake tears, and making grade school children stammer through scripted “speeches” written by their overbearing and shameless parents. I’m sure they weren’t the first to do these things either, it’s all part of a playbook that’s been around for years, and tends to work.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s no reason immersion shouldn’t move. None. Acting like children will be irreparably harmed by attending a neighborhood school in Arlington instead is ridiculous, but it’s the only thing they have left to go on. As for the McKinley crazies, I don’t know how they can show their faces around school.

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Change is hard, but will be ok. Key needs to move. Of course that's upsetting to a community that is involved and passionate about their school, but in a few years, there will be another community created that will be just as wonderful. Stopping this at all costs does nothing to help the county.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

No. She said the people were called unhinged b/c they were non-white. She wasn't there. They just jumped to conclusions that someone acting crazy was called out for it b/c she didn't think the crazies were white. They were. They all were.

Her words:

While I realize that the people that were being disorderly last night were White, many of them are standing up for communities that cannot speak for themselves, i.e. undocumented peoples.

[Anonymous]

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Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

Screaming at staff and/or actively disrupting meetings because you don't like the results is conduct unbecoming an APS employee.

To be fair, the teacher spamming AEM re Key is not the person who disrupted the meeting.

I can't find the meeting discussion on AEM anymore. Did they delete it because it didn't fit their narrative and they realized their "tone policing" arguments were in support of a white woman whose issue was being moved from one white/wealthy school to one slightly less white/wealthy?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Again, the geniuses don’t realize Ashlawn’s demographics will change to be a lot more like McKinley’s. It won’t be a 7 for long. Also, dominion hills property is pretty stable. McK houses aren’t worth more than Ashlawn houses.

Lol keep telling yourself that, 17% low income vs 5%, anything over 10 is a shit show

Most of Ashlawn's low income families will be rezoned to other schools under Option 1.

Supposition. No one will ever know until boundary changes after these school moves. Big worry: these school changes reduce options for later boundary changes and result in overcrowding in some schools and under capacity at others.

How does moving programs lock in boundary? Walk zoned aren’t sacrosanct, kids are buses out of option walk zones clearly.

It doesn't lock in boundaries but does reduce potential options when schools are taken from consideration early (like in this phased approach).

[Anonymous]

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....so, let's do nothing, and have 3 elementary schools (Reed, Mck, and Ashlawn) within less than 2 miles of each other, and draw weird tentacle boundaries to fill them? And leave current, known seat deficits on the other end of the county? Yeah, THAT won't reduce options for later changes or result in different utilization across schools... The "but the solution isnt perfect! Let's wait!" argument, which boils down to "don't do it and effect us, screw other people instead with the status quo," is really getting old.

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Change is going to happen. Schools are going to change programs and boundaries are going to be altered. Why separate the planning for the two?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

No. She said the people were called unhinged b/c they were non-white. She wasn't there. They just jumped to conclusions that someone acting crazy was called out for it b/c she didn't think the crazies were white. They were. They all were.

Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

What she fails to acknowledge is that there is a difference between getting loud/acting disruptive to invoke change and being rudely and disrespectfully loud and counter-productive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

Screaming at staff and/or actively disrupting meetings because you don't like the results is conduct unbecoming an APS employee.

To be fair, the teacher spamming AEM re Key is not the person who disrupted the meeting.

I can't find the meeting discussion on AEM anymore. Did they delete it because it didn't fit their narrative and they realized their "tone policing" arguments were in support of a white woman whose issue was being moved from one white/wealthy school to one slightly less white/wealthy?

There’s still a discussion there. The most recent comment likens the crazies to Rosa Parks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no reason immersion shouldn’t move. None. Acting like children will be irreparably harmed by attending a neighborhood school in Arlington instead is ridiculous, but it’s the only thing they have left to go on. As for the McKinley crazies, I don’t know how they can show their faces around school.

Yes, there is. APS needs seats in Rosslyn and immersion is a choice. They are moving it where there are just as many native speakers as where it resides right now.

I think you may have misread PP's statement - no reasong immersion should NOT move, is what she said.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

Screaming at staff and/or actively disrupting meetings because you don't like the results is conduct unbecoming an APS employee.

To be fair, the teacher spamming AEM re Key is not the person who disrupted the meeting.

I can't find the meeting discussion on AEM anymore. Did they delete it because it didn't fit their narrative and they realized their "tone policing" arguments were in support of a white woman whose issue was being moved from one white/wealthy school to one slightly less white/wealthy?

There’s still a discussion there. The most recent comment likens the crazies to Rosa Parks.

The AEM posters (who weren’t there and didn’t watch the live stream) seem to think the screamers were Key supporters. I hope they post the video if only to shut them up when they realize it’s rich white women yelling about being moved from McKinley to another wealthy school. Is that really the civil disobedience those AEM posters want to be promoting??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no reason immersion shouldn’t move. None. Acting like children will be irreparably harmed by attending a neighborhood school in Arlington instead is ridiculous, but it’s the only thing they have left to go on. As for the McKinley crazies, I don’t know how they can show their faces around school.

+1

Change is hard, but will be ok. Key needs to move. Of course that's upsetting to a community that is involved and passionate about their school, but in a few years, there will be another community created that will be just as wonderful. Stopping this at all costs does nothing to help the county.

Key would better serve its community at this point by preparing it for a potential move. Start talking to their families about the new location and encouraging them to stay with the program for all the x,y, z reasons. Find out which families would have what difficulties and why and, more importantly, how the community and APS can work together to minimize the negative impacts on current Key families. If the families who need the food pantry don't go to the new site, there is no reason the new neighborhood community at Key and ASFS can't start a food pantry. That's just a relatively minor example and I'm sure someone from Key will tear into how I am minimizing the needs of their community. And that would be missing the point. You can still advocate strongly for your preferred position; but prudence and truly serving the needs of the community calls for preparing the community for a move.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

No. She said the people were called unhinged b/c they were non-white. She wasn't there. They just jumped to conclusions that someone acting crazy was called out for it b/c she didn't think the crazies were white. They were. They all were.

Her words:

While I realize that the people that were being disorderly last night were White, many of them are standing up for communities that cannot speak for themselves, i.e. undocumented peoples.

Except they weren't - they were standing up for their self-interests to stay at McKinley as a neighborhood school. They weren't advocating for anyone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

Screaming at staff and/or actively disrupting meetings because you don't like the results is conduct unbecoming an APS employee.

To be fair, the teacher spamming AEM re Key is not the person who disrupted the meeting.

I can't find the meeting discussion on AEM anymore. Did they delete it because it didn't fit their narrative and they realized their "tone policing" arguments were in support of a white woman whose issue was being moved from one white/wealthy school to one slightly less white/wealthy?

There’s still a discussion there. The most recent comment likens the crazies to Rosa Parks.

The AEM posters (who weren’t there and didn’t watch the live stream) seem to think the screamers were Key supporters. I hope they post the video if only to shut them up when they realize it’s rich white women yelling about being moved from McKinley to another wealthy school. Is that really the civil disobedience those AEM posters want to be promoting??

It is so satisfying to see the wokest of the woke accidentally stand up for the people they normally abhor. I am loving this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:And the crazies weren't saving Key, they were all about McK.

Yes! They were all McKinley parents who live in the McKinley walk zone. All white. I was there. Said Key teacher was definitively not -- unless she's gotten some sort of crazy plastic surgery and colored her hair since posting her profile pic on Facebook.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:And the crazies weren't saving Key, they were all about McK.

Yes! They were all McKinley parents who live in the McKinley walk zone. All white. I was there. Said Key teacher was definitively not -- unless she's gotten some sort of crazy plastic surgery and colored her hair since posting her profile pic on Facebook.

Yep, I was there too. I think the only non-white people in the room work for APS.