APS Elementary Planning Mtg at Swanson - Option 1 in, Option 2 out, McKinley Moms out of contro

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

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Anonymous wrote:What is “tone policing”? Is that the new phrase for expressing a preference for civil discourse?

It means that you cannot correct or speak ill of a POC’s way of expressing herself.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

No. She said the people were called unhinged b/c they were non-white. She wasn't there. They just jumped to conclusions that someone acting crazy was called out for it b/c she didn't think the crazies were white. They were. They all were.

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And the crazies weren't saving Key, they were all about McK.

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Anonymous wrote:Is the nutjob on AEM?

If it's who I imagining, no. Again, if it's who I think she is, she's a #saveMcKinley parent, though.

Why isn't AEM talking about this?

They are. It’s in the comments under mods posting of the livestream. Key teacher is defending the yelling and suggesting that people who criticize it are tone policing. It’s horrific

Oh please - she's a victim of "tone policing" so of course she'll come to their defense -- and that of anyone else whose arguments even tangentially support hers that Key CAN not be moved.

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Anonymous wrote:I was there tonight and she was threatening. Completely disgusting behavior. She was the worst but there were other McKinley people in the hall who were pretty bad. There were two neighbors who were horrified that buses would be driving through their neighborhood to McKinley as they walked to Ashlawn - seriously!!! They should be glad they are walkable either way.

My takeaways were:
- Large majority of McKinley will be walkers in the proposal
- ASFS population and surrounding is so large they can absorb ASFS and Key
- ATS can keep their name. They will be like HB move this year -everyone will go because they love the program.
- Key can move intact. Some people were only going there because it was close. Their population will fit in ATS just fine.
- Need to preserve VPI and ensure those classes are in the right places to best serve high rush populations.
- McKinley parents are possibly the worst in Arlington. They tried to throw other schools under the bus and when their arguments didn’t make sense, they just yelled.

Bottom line is that the McKinley mom may stroke out but her neighbors and their kids will be just fine. No different than the Fleet or Discovery redistricting.

Which schools did they try to throw under the bus and what were the arguments.

So bummed the recording isn’t available, hopefully tomorrow.

They kept screaming about Ashlawn like it was a Super Max prison. Why not Tuckaoe or Nottingham. Screaming that other schools would be under capacity. Psychos.

I would be angry if I paid and was zoned for a 10 school and got moved to 7 school which is a 30% drop which will show in home values and school quality.

https://www.greatschools.org/virginia/arlington/111-Ashlawn-Elementary-School/

https://www.greatschools.org/virginia/arlington/124-McKinley-Elementary-School/

Yeah, so what. No one cares about those who got rezoned from the former Henry to Drew. Being angry solves nothing.

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Anonymous wrote:OMG. AEM finally chimes in and it’s the Key teacher claiming that the speakers being called unhinged must be wronged non-white people. WTH?! Can she say anything without going to racism? The crazy speakers were McK. 99% chance they were white. If I had my kid in her class, I’d pull him so fast!

Actually, she said something like “the speakers may have been white” (because normally that would mean that they should just stfu, right?) “but they were speaking on behalf of undocumented people without a voice.” I’m assuming that means that some of the screamers were #savekey advocates, or that she thought that they were.

I’m not sure where the crazy ends and the crazier begins.

No. She said the people were called unhinged b/c they were non-white. She wasn't there. They just jumped to conclusions that someone acting crazy was called out for it b/c she didn't think the crazies were white. They were. They all were.

Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

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There’s no reason immersion shouldn’t move. None. Acting like children will be irreparably harmed by attending a neighborhood school in Arlington instead is ridiculous, but it’s the only thing they have left to go on. As for the McKinley crazies, I don’t know how they can show their faces around school.

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no reason immersion shouldn’t move. None. Acting like children will be irreparably harmed by attending a neighborhood school in Arlington instead is ridiculous, but it’s the only thing they have left to go on. As for the McKinley crazies, I don’t know how they can show their faces around school.

Yes, there is. APS needs seats in Rosslyn and immersion is a choice. They are moving it where there are just as many native speakers as where it resides right now.

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Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

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Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

In this case there is a lot of data and plenty of engagement. They just don’t like the answer. It’s very very clear that Key advocates do not care about the neighborhood kids unless they fit the narrative. Remember there were only 35 Spanish speaking K applicants this year. And no, you do not get to add VPI and Siblings to get a number you like better, they are included in total applicants.

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Yes. And now she is suggesting that people do need to get loud and act disruptive to see real change. That lady needs to go on administrative leave.

Yeah, just ask politely and wait. That has always delivered results.

Screaming at staff and/or actively disrupting meetings because you don't like the results is conduct unbecoming an APS employee.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, the geniuses don’t realize Ashlawn’s demographics will change to be a lot more like McKinley’s. It won’t be a 7 for long. Also, dominion hills property is pretty stable. McK houses aren’t worth more than Ashlawn houses.

Lol keep telling yourself that, 17% low income vs 5%, anything over 10 is a shit show

Most of Ashlawn's low income families will be rezoned to other schools under Option 1.

Supposition. No one will ever know until boundary changes after these school moves. Big worry: these school changes reduce options for later boundary changes and result in overcrowding in some schools and under capacity at others.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, the geniuses don’t realize Ashlawn’s demographics will change to be a lot more like McKinley’s. It won’t be a 7 for long. Also, dominion hills property is pretty stable. McK houses aren’t worth more than Ashlawn houses.

Lol keep telling yourself that, 17% low income vs 5%, anything over 10 is a shit show

Most of Ashlawn's low income families will be rezoned to other schools under Option 1.

Supposition. No one will ever know until boundary changes after these school moves. Big worry: these school changes reduce options for later boundary changes and result in overcrowding in some schools and under capacity at others.

How does moving programs lock in boundary? Walk zoned aren’t sacrosanct, kids are buses out of option walk zones clearly.

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Anonymous wrote:Again, the geniuses don’t realize Ashlawn’s demographics will change to be a lot more like McKinley’s. It won’t be a 7 for long. Also, dominion hills property is pretty stable. McK houses aren’t worth more than Ashlawn houses.

Lol keep telling yourself that, 17% low income vs 5%, anything over 10 is a shit show

Most of Ashlawn's low income families will be rezoned to other schools under Option 1.

Supposition. No one will ever know until boundary changes after these school moves. Big worry: these school changes reduce options for later boundary changes and result in overcrowding in some schools and under capacity at others.

....so, let's do nothing, and have 3 elementary schools (Reed, Mck, and Ashlawn) within less than 2 miles of each other, and draw weird tentacle boundaries to fill them? And leave current, known seat deficits on the other end of the county? Yeah, THAT won't reduce options for later changes or result in different utilization across schools... The "but the solution isnt perfect! Let's wait!" argument, which boils down to "don't do it and effect us, screw other people instead with the status quo," is really getting old.