APS Elementary Planning Mtg at Swanson - Option 1 in, Option 2 out, McKinley Moms out of contro

[Anonymous]

Yeah. I was in those SA schools with my kids. And everyone told me the SA teachers were much better than the NA was ones. I think the teachers were universally good (other than a bad one at our NA school and a bad one at our SA school). But those great SA teachers were magicians. They couldn’t help a room full of kids who had never had any preschool or English exposure while challenging my kid reading at a 2d grade level in K. They just can’t. They ARE great teachers. Nit enough to equalize the schools.

[Anonymous]

Meant to say they “weren’t” magicians.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

I don’t think you know how to use this phrase properly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

Sorry, I misread PP's statement. But my response remains the same other than the Title I funding and class sizes. Oakridge and Henry both did very well when they were 40%. Key will do just as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

How so? I'm not following this logic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

I think you are underestimating the appeal of the location to people who have shown a willingness to live in condos and townhouses to be walkable to metro and close to the city.

[Anonymous]

Wow, someone is going all in on the fear-mongering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Wow, someone is going all in on the fear-mongering.

Seriously. APS is “getting the stick out”? GMAFB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

I think you are underestimating the appeal of the location to people who have shown a willingness to live in condos and townhouses to be walkable to metro and close to the city.

Key is currently a GreatSchools 9 and ASFS is an 8. When young families are moving out of DC to Arlington do you think they might be concerned when(if) Key becomes a Great Schools 4, 5 or 6? Subsidized housing is very appealing and expanding in that area as well (walkable to metro and close to the city).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

I think you are underestimating the appeal of the location to people who have shown a willingness to live in condos and townhouses to be walkable to metro and close to the city.

+1 This. They are getting a highly walkable school, which is what the swap proponents were aiming for.