APS Elementary Planning Mtg at Swanson - Option 1 in, Option 2 out, McKinley Moms out of contro

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Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

I think you are underestimating the appeal of the location to people who have shown a willingness to live in condos and townhouses to be walkable to metro and close to the city.

Key is currently a GreatSchools 9 and ASFS is an 8. When young families are moving out of DC to Arlington do you think they might be concerned when(if) Key becomes a Great Schools 4, 5 or 6? Subsidized housing is very appealing and expanding in that area as well (walkable to metro and close to the city).

Looks like Key is currently a Great Schools 5. It’s in Arlington, Virginia.

Ooopss you are so right! So the neighborhood school (ASFS) would drop from an 8 to who knows what.

Why? I think ASFS will be perfectly fine.

The majority of the current ASFS will move together to Key. It will be a great school. If you notice, they haven’t been screaming. They are trying to prepare for their school to be split up - regardless of scenario - and how to take care of their students and families.

We'll see once they actually have to move and they've spent all that money on playground equipment and fundraising for a track,

Look, anyone who has paid any attention to anything knows that there was going to be some sort of major shuffling in this area, even if Immersion doesn’t move, because of the crowding issue and known approved housing. If they spent that money, they had to know there was a good chance many/most current families won’t be assigned to ASFS in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

I think you are underestimating the appeal of the location to people who have shown a willingness to live in condos and townhouses to be walkable to metro and close to the city.

Key is currently a GreatSchools 9 and ASFS is an 8. When young families are moving out of DC to Arlington do you think they might be concerned when(if) Key becomes a Great Schools 4, 5 or 6? Subsidized housing is very appealing and expanding in that area as well (walkable to metro and close to the city).

Looks like Key is currently a Great Schools 5. It’s in Arlington, Virginia.

Ooopss you are so right! So the neighborhood school (ASFS) would drop from an 8 to who knows what.

Why? I think ASFS will be perfectly fine.

The majority of the current ASFS will move together to Key. It will be a great school. If you notice, they haven’t been screaming. They are trying to prepare for their school to be split up - regardless of scenario - and how to take care of their students and families.

We'll see once they actually have to move and they've spent all that money on playground equipment and fundraising for a track,

They approved the playground equipment AFTER the proposed moves came out. It will benefit kids there today and whichever kids end up there in the future. Plus, Key already has a great playground.

I can see people fighting over boundaries to stick together but many families seem to support the move because ASFS is just so overcrowded and it’s the right thing to do for the APS community.

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Anonymous wrote:Where is this notion coming from that neighborhood Key would be a Title I? ASFS isn’t current Title I, right? Was Key Title I when it had neighborhood preference?

You can crunch the numbers...but it depends on if APS decides to concentrate FARMs at one school and what % of MC/UMC option out (or go Catholic).

I have looked at the numbers, and I’m not seeing a realistic scenario where neighborhood Key is Title I. This feels like a scare tactic from the Keep Key on Key and Save McKinley folks to avoid having any schools move.

Okay...so if Neighborhood Key isn't Title I...it will be pretty close and without the extra resources (past the tipping point) You do you.

They will receive Title I funding, class sizes will be limited to Title I limits, and the community and PTA will still be there to provide the supportive services families currently receive. The current Key PTA, with its 39% FRL population, has a healthy budget - far healthier than our 60%+ schools. The wealth in the area surpasses the wealth in the 60+ FRL schools.

What you don't seem to understand is that the New Key will be the ASFS and Key leftovers (who don't have a way out). These families will be fine - but the involved parents and the ones who make the big donations will be outta there (kind of like all of the UMC/MC parents who option out of SA schools).

I never really thought of that - today these involved families stay because they are getting something "special" like "Science" or "Immersion" once the carrots are gone they will look for greener pastures.

Bingo - you are starting to get it. Using carrots help spread FARMS, MC, UMC...organically works. Now APS and the SB are getting the stick out - and the end result will be concentrating FARMS at Key - and any PU that can get out will scream loud. Similar to what we saw with Drew in South Arlington (but not as extreme).

I think you are underestimating the appeal of the location to people who have shown a willingness to live in condos and townhouses to be walkable to metro and close to the city.

Key is currently a GreatSchools 9 and ASFS is an 8. When young families are moving out of DC to Arlington do you think they might be concerned when(if) Key becomes a Great Schools 4, 5 or 6? Subsidized housing is very appealing and expanding in that area as well (walkable to metro and close to the city).

Looks like Key is currently a Great Schools 5. It’s in Arlington, Virginia.

Ooopss you are so right! So the neighborhood school (ASFS) would drop from an 8 to who knows what.

Why? I think ASFS will be perfectly fine.

The majority of the current ASFS will move together to Key. It will be a great school. If you notice, they haven’t been screaming. They are trying to prepare for their school to be split up - regardless of scenario - and how to take care of their students and families.

We'll see once they actually have to move and they've spent all that money on playground equipment and fundraising for a track,

They approved the playground equipment AFTER the proposed moves came out. It will benefit kids there today and whichever kids end up there in the future. Plus, Key already has a great playground.

I can see people fighting over boundaries to stick together but many families seem to support the move because ASFS is just so overcrowded and it’s the right thing to do for the APS community.

I wouldn’t say great—more like kind of good.