Kate Moss

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At 14 she was more beautiful because she looked normal instead of extremely thin

She's been a model for as long as I've been noticing clothes - decades now - and she was known for her "heroin chic" when she was young. = extremely skinny. That's when heroin was thought to have a chic (I guess? Things were weird in the 90s) as opposed to now when it's thought of as what people turn to when they can't get their other opioids anymore. But Kate's been there through it all.

This is what 'skinny' was in the 90s. The 'heroin chic' wasn't just about 'skinny' also about grunge, shadows under the eyes and hollow cheeks. Kate Moss had a slight build and excellent facial structure that, with a little makeup, could be transformed into 'heroin chic'. You could do the same thing to Twiggy from the 70s. Heroin chic is far more descriptive of today's fashion standards (Kaia Gerber comes to mind). Look how many celebrity women can't get a designer dress for the red carpet. https://people.com/style/celebrities-who-designers-wont-dress/

Guy here. Kate was hot then (and clearly had hips here) and she’s not now. I think this is a lot of women analyzing here. Plus, people don’t like to admit it, but the smoking anc sexy look added to her total hotness.

You mean white guy here right?

You mean white guy who still believes they didn’t photoshop her waist in to make he look like she has hips.

Dude you are pathetic... if u are a dude..

DP here (female). So, you think every image/video of her is photoshopped? Do you engage in other conspiracy theories?

A simple google search on "Kate Moss Runway" will give you a ton of hits for video of her walking runways. It's clear that she is not 'skinny' by today's standards and she definitely has 'hips'. She's definitely sexy. If you choose to believe that all those are photoshopped, well, I'm sorry for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhlNcVh5_4

DP...All I see is a very skinny woman with the body of a teenage boy.

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The really striking thing to me is that she is only 5'6". She looks much taller in those runway pics.

The one photo on this thread I think is photoshopped is the one of her when she is older with a very short black dress. Those legs can't be hers--that is just not not the way good legs like hers age. They look like my legs and I am aware enough to avoid dresses above the knees.

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The ugliest model of all times. But she is interestingly ugly. She was highly paid for in the context of what she personified for the majority of Americans at that time.

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Anonymous wrote:The really striking thing to me is that she is only 5'6". She looks much taller in those runway pics.

The one photo on this thread I think is photoshopped is the one of her when she is older with a very short black dress. Those legs can't be hers--that is just not not the way good legs like hers age. They look like my legs and I am aware enough to avoid dresses above the knees.

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Her sister Lotte is much prettier.

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Its just an unfortunate dress for her.

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Anonymous wrote:He has a very striking face. Wide set eyes, high cheekbones, a certain symmetry. She could look distinctive, but still in a way that wasn't distracting to the clothes/makeup choices. I think she's quite beautiful, although not in a super feminine way, more in a visually striking way. Her body type certainly isn't something for young women to emulate, and mostly that super skinny frame makes models good walking clothes hangers. It's interesting that she is only 5'6'' and able to pull off the runway so well--that is unusually short for a model. But she has a certain presence and since of visual command that made that work for her.

Not symmetrical features at all. Show her picture to anybody from any part of the world who has not seen her before and do not know who she is and they will find her extremely ordinary. She is considered beautiful in a particular cultural context only.


On the other hand, show Paulina Porizkova's picture to anyone in the world who has not seen her before and do not know who she is and they will find her extraordinarily beautiful.

Both beautiful, but personally I prefer Kate's look. Damn, she's hot.

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She has gorgeous bone structure - those cheekbones could cut glass.

Smoking and living a hard life has not done well for her concerning aging, but then again I think similarly of Christie Brinkley - who looks too much like an embalmed version of herself.


Christy Turlington looks gorgeous to me, especially in no makeup - aged normally, and (relatively) healthfully.

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At 14 she was more beautiful because she looked normal instead of extremely thin

She's been a model for as long as I've been noticing clothes - decades now - and she was known for her "heroin chic" when she was young. = extremely skinny. That's when heroin was thought to have a chic (I guess? Things were weird in the 90s) as opposed to now when it's thought of as what people turn to when they can't get their other opioids anymore. But Kate's been there through it all.

This is what 'skinny' was in the 90s. The 'heroin chic' wasn't just about 'skinny' also about grunge, shadows under the eyes and hollow cheeks. Kate Moss had a slight build and excellent facial structure that, with a little makeup, could be transformed into 'heroin chic'. You could do the same thing to Twiggy from the 70s. Heroin chic is far more descriptive of today's fashion standards (Kaia Gerber comes to mind). Look how many celebrity women can't get a designer dress for the red carpet. https://people.com/style/celebrities-who-designers-wont-dress/

Guy here. Kate was hot then (and clearly had hips here) and she’s not now. I think this is a lot of women analyzing here. Plus, people don’t like to admit it, but the smoking anc sexy look added to her total hotness.

You mean white guy here right?

You mean white guy who still believes they didn’t photoshop her waist in to make he look like she has hips.

Dude you are pathetic... if u are a dude..

DP here (female). So, you think every image/video of her is photoshopped? Do you engage in other conspiracy theories?

A simple google search on "Kate Moss Runway" will give you a ton of hits for video of her walking runways. It's clear that she is not 'skinny' by today's standards and she definitely has 'hips'. She's definitely sexy. If you choose to believe that all those are photoshopped, well, I'm sorry for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhlNcVh5_4

DP...All I see is a very skinny woman with the body of a teenage boy.

Nope, I have a skinny teenage son and the proportions are completely different.

I know your thesis is her shape only speaks to gay male designers, but that’s bunk. If you were to measure hip to waist ratio, of KM, the geometry is as dramatic as some of the curvy examples cited. I’ve altered dresses, although a larger woman may look curvier the percent of fabric that has to be suppressed for a skinny woman to fit a waist is often greater. The saving grace is skinny women often don’t need a completely cinched waist to look proportionate.

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At 14 she was more beautiful because she looked normal instead of extremely thin

She's been a model for as long as I've been noticing clothes - decades now - and she was known for her "heroin chic" when she was young. = extremely skinny. That's when heroin was thought to have a chic (I guess? Things were weird in the 90s) as opposed to now when it's thought of as what people turn to when they can't get their other opioids anymore. But Kate's been there through it all.

This is what 'skinny' was in the 90s. The 'heroin chic' wasn't just about 'skinny' also about grunge, shadows under the eyes and hollow cheeks. Kate Moss had a slight build and excellent facial structure that, with a little makeup, could be transformed into 'heroin chic'. You could do the same thing to Twiggy from the 70s. Heroin chic is far more descriptive of today's fashion standards (Kaia Gerber comes to mind). Look how many celebrity women can't get a designer dress for the red carpet. https://people.com/style/celebrities-who-designers-wont-dress/

Guy here. Kate was hot then (and clearly had hips here) and she’s not now. I think this is a lot of women analyzing here. Plus, people don’t like to admit it, but the smoking anc sexy look added to her total hotness.

You mean white guy here right?

You mean white guy who still believes they didn’t photoshop her waist in to make he look like she has hips.

Dude you are pathetic... if u are a dude..

DP here (female). So, you think every image/video of her is photoshopped? Do you engage in other conspiracy theories?

A simple google search on "Kate Moss Runway" will give you a ton of hits for video of her walking runways. It's clear that she is not 'skinny' by today's standards and she definitely has 'hips'. She's definitely sexy. If you choose to believe that all those are photoshopped, well, I'm sorry for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhlNcVh5_4

DP...All I see is a very skinny woman with the body of a teenage boy.

Nope, I have a skinny teenage son and the proportions are completely different.

I know your thesis is her shape only speaks to gay male designers, but that’s bunk. If you were to measure hip to waist ratio, of KM, the geometry is as dramatic as some of the curvy examples cited. I’ve altered dresses, although a larger woman may look curvier the percent of fabric that has to be suppressed for a skinny woman to fit a waist is often greater. The saving grace is skinny women often don’t need a completely cinched waist to look proportionate.

Nope, she is still shaped like a teenage boy. Maybe not your son but there are plenty of boys with that shape. We’ve all seen Kate in clothes. She has a boyish figure, including the small, almost nonexistent chest. You can try to bend it anyway you like but she looks like a teenage boy. You can try to find curves and call her curvy but she isn’t. She’s skinny, ribs showing and all. You want to believe skinny women have curves, they have don’t. But again, there is nothing wrong with that. Just own the shape and stop trying to make fetch happen.

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At 14 she was more beautiful because she looked normal instead of extremely thin

She's been a model for as long as I've been noticing clothes - decades now - and she was known for her "heroin chic" when she was young. = extremely skinny. That's when heroin was thought to have a chic (I guess? Things were weird in the 90s) as opposed to now when it's thought of as what people turn to when they can't get their other opioids anymore. But Kate's been there through it all.

This is what 'skinny' was in the 90s. The 'heroin chic' wasn't just about 'skinny' also about grunge, shadows under the eyes and hollow cheeks. Kate Moss had a slight build and excellent facial structure that, with a little makeup, could be transformed into 'heroin chic'. You could do the same thing to Twiggy from the 70s. Heroin chic is far more descriptive of today's fashion standards (Kaia Gerber comes to mind). Look how many celebrity women can't get a designer dress for the red carpet. https://people.com/style/celebrities-who-designers-wont-dress/

Guy here. Kate was hot then (and clearly had hips here) and she’s not now. I think this is a lot of women analyzing here. Plus, people don’t like to admit it, but the smoking anc sexy look added to her total hotness.

You mean white guy here right?

You mean white guy who still believes they didn’t photoshop her waist in to make he look like she has hips.

Dude you are pathetic... if u are a dude..

DP here (female). So, you think every image/video of her is photoshopped? Do you engage in other conspiracy theories?

A simple google search on "Kate Moss Runway" will give you a ton of hits for video of her walking runways. It's clear that she is not 'skinny' by today's standards and she definitely has 'hips'. She's definitely sexy. If you choose to believe that all those are photoshopped, well, I'm sorry for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhlNcVh5_4

DP...All I see is a very skinny woman with the body of a teenage boy.

Nope, I have a skinny teenage son and the proportions are completely different.

I know your thesis is her shape only speaks to gay male designers, but that’s bunk. If you were to measure hip to waist ratio, of KM, the geometry is as dramatic as some of the curvy examples cited. I’ve altered dresses, although a larger woman may look curvier the percent of fabric that has to be suppressed for a skinny woman to fit a waist is often greater. The saving grace is skinny women often don’t need a completely cinched waist to look proportionate.

Nope, she is still shaped like a teenage boy. Maybe not your son but there are plenty of boys with that shape. We’ve all seen Kate in clothes. She has a boyish figure, including the small, almost nonexistent chest. You can try to bend it anyway you like but she looks like a teenage boy. You can try to find curves and call her curvy but she isn’t. She’s skinny, ribs showing and all. You want to believe skinny women have curves, they have don’t. But again, there is nothing wrong with that. Just own the shape and stop trying to make fetch happen.

DP. Christ, you need a handful of Xanax, girl.

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I am so amused someone cites Sophia Vergara as an example of curvy - especially on the same list as generally thickset people like Ashley Graham, Beyonce and whatnot. Literally the only curvy part of Vergara's physique are her breasts. The rest of her body is as compliant with "white people" standards as any model (or at least it was before normal middle age hit).

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Anonymous wrote:He has a very striking face. Wide set eyes, high cheekbones, a certain symmetry. She could look distinctive, but still in a way that wasn't distracting to the clothes/makeup choices. I think she's quite beautiful, although not in a super feminine way, more in a visually striking way. Her body type certainly isn't something for young women to emulate, and mostly that super skinny frame makes models good walking clothes hangers. It's interesting that she is only 5'6'' and able to pull off the runway so well--that is unusually short for a model. But she has a certain presence and since of visual command that made that work for her.

Not symmetrical features at all. Show her picture to anybody from any part of the world who has not seen her before and do not know who she is and they will find her extremely ordinary. She is considered beautiful in a particular cultural context only.


On the other hand, show Paulina Porizkova's picture to anyone in the world who has not seen her before and do not know who she is and they will find her extraordinarily beautiful.

And yet out of the two, Moss had a much more illustrious career and is much more of an icon than Porizkova ever was.

I mean, there were literally thousands skinny white girls hitting the model market at the same time with Kate. And success smiled on her and not any other skinny white girl. There has to be a reason, don't you think? It's her face, not her body. Her body is forgettable by modeling standards, but the face is where it's at. It's the same thing with Natalia Vodianova - the secret is the face, never the body.

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At 14 she was more beautiful because she looked normal instead of extremely thin

She's been a model for as long as I've been noticing clothes - decades now - and she was known for her "heroin chic" when she was young. = extremely skinny. That's when heroin was thought to have a chic (I guess? Things were weird in the 90s) as opposed to now when it's thought of as what people turn to when they can't get their other opioids anymore. But Kate's been there through it all.

This is what 'skinny' was in the 90s. The 'heroin chic' wasn't just about 'skinny' also about grunge, shadows under the eyes and hollow cheeks. Kate Moss had a slight build and excellent facial structure that, with a little makeup, could be transformed into 'heroin chic'. You could do the same thing to Twiggy from the 70s. Heroin chic is far more descriptive of today's fashion standards (Kaia Gerber comes to mind). Look how many celebrity women can't get a designer dress for the red carpet. https://people.com/style/celebrities-who-designers-wont-dress/

Guy here. Kate was hot then (and clearly had hips here) and she’s not now. I think this is a lot of women analyzing here. Plus, people don’t like to admit it, but the smoking anc sexy look added to her total hotness.

You mean white guy here right?

You mean white guy who still believes they didn’t photoshop her waist in to make he look like she has hips.

Dude you are pathetic... if u are a dude..

DP here (female). So, you think every image/video of her is photoshopped? Do you engage in other conspiracy theories?

A simple google search on "Kate Moss Runway" will give you a ton of hits for video of her walking runways. It's clear that she is not 'skinny' by today's standards and she definitely has 'hips'. She's definitely sexy. If you choose to believe that all those are photoshopped, well, I'm sorry for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhlNcVh5_4

DP...All I see is a very skinny woman with the body of a teenage boy.

Nope, I have a skinny teenage son and the proportions are completely different.

I know your thesis is her shape only speaks to gay male designers, but that’s bunk. If you were to measure hip to waist ratio, of KM, the geometry is as dramatic as some of the curvy examples cited. I’ve altered dresses, although a larger woman may look curvier the percent of fabric that has to be suppressed for a skinny woman to fit a waist is often greater. The saving grace is skinny women often don’t need a completely cinched waist to look proportionate.

Nope, she is still shaped like a teenage boy. Maybe not your son but there are plenty of boys with that shape. We’ve all seen Kate in clothes. She has a boyish figure, including the small, almost nonexistent chest. You can try to bend it anyway you like but she looks like a teenage boy. You can try to find curves and call her curvy but she isn’t. She’s skinny, ribs showing and all. You want to believe skinny women have curves, they have don’t. But again, there is nothing wrong with that. Just own the shape and stop trying to make fetch happen.

DP. Christ, you need a handful of Xanax, girl.

DP. I agree with PP. It’s ludicrous to claim a skinny girl like KM has curves or is curvy in the sense that most people describe women’s bodies today. The skinny women’s brigade is the one that sounds mental when they try to convince everyone that she has anything other than a boyish figure. Her face is pretty and feminine though, which is more than I can say for the many super skinny, mannish women around nowadays.

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The arguments over whether Kate Moss is curvy are bizarre to me. She is not “curvy” as the term is traditionally used (meaning large breasts and generous hips and thighs). However, as others have noted, her hip to waist ratio is very feminine. She has a tiny waste and flaring hips. Anyone who compares her to a teenage boy is not familiar with teenage boy anatomy. They do not have nipped in waists.