Metro incident and why crime in MD and DC greater than NOVA

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Anonymous wrote:VA in general actually has a functioning justice system compared to the joke of a revolving door that DC calls its court system?

This is certainly part of this. I"m a landlord in MoCo and my friend is a landlord in Fairfax. He can have the sheriff at the door of a non-paying tenant for eviction in under a week. In MoCo, it takes about 3 months (just the sheriff appointment is scheduled 6 weeks out).

In DC the landlord can NEVER evict a non paying tenant, they can stay as long as they like.

Tenants for life were created by the mayor for life.

Which is why some landlords are choosing to rent properties on Airbnb, rather than under lease. Some DC Council members and self-styled housing social justice advocates decry this. But property owners know that it's easier to dislodge a roach infestation than a holdover tenant in DC.

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Growing up, MD was ahead of Northern Va on most indices. That is no longer the case. VA has had better recent record of attracting large companies, increasing its tax base and providing safer neighborhoods for its residents.

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Anonymous wrote:In my Arlington neighborhood the police canvassed a 10 sq block area for two weeks just so they could catch a package thief. Later on they patrolled the entire orange line corridor at 4AM in order to catch a serial sexual assaulter that was preying on early morning women joggers. There are just more resources available to actually pursue criminals in Arlington.

In NW DC, you can usually catch the police patrolling (strolling, actually) the aisles of the Best Buy, where they like to hand out while on duty.

You know I've noticed barring an outright homicide or a high profile robbery, the MPD doesn't really give a damn about "lesser" crimes.

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Anonymous wrote:VA in general actually has a functioning justice system compared to the joke of a revolving door that DC calls its court system?

Yes this.

Commit a crime in Arlington, and you won't be getting bail unless it's very minor.

Ultimately, a criminal knows that in VA, if he commits the ultimate crime, he may get the ultimate penalty. If he commits murder on the other end of the Key Bridge, there are several DC Council Members who will make excuses for him.

I can't believe you actually think this is a deterrent. It isn't. They just don't like VA.

It's common knowledge among LEOs in the area that criminals (or at least the smarter ones) tend to avoid running into VA because they know they'll be nailed to the wall by the justice system in VA. Can't say the same for DC or MD.

This. From direct personal experience, Arlington juries are exceedingly intolerant of criminal and antisocial behavior in their neighborhoods. And casual reading of the crime column (and the number of times a suspect is held without bail) suggests that Arlington is considerably stricter than MD or DC. Criminals catch on after a while.

Anecdote: Arlington has convicted one person from the rash of dirt-bike mobs taking over the streets periodically over the past year or two. One is way too small a number in my opinion, but has any other local jurisdiction convicted any at all?

Are you really this dumb? So criminals stop and say, oh my goodness, arlington juries are really tough on crime, better not commit a crime there! Ah no.

Yes in fact that's exactly what they do, "career" criminals know better than to cross into VA because if they are caught in VA...their careers are pretty much over. VA in general does enjoy throwing the book at repeat offenders.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

I don't understand why people think they can dress/groom any way they want and not be 'profiled'. I had two little kids and was house hunting on a rainy day - was dressed in sweats - and a realtor at a new home community looked me up and down and refused to take me through the model because I didn't look like I could afford it. Her loss - we wanted to buy two lots. I was most certainly profiled, and have been in the past many times, as has my husband. We are tech people and don't play the same 'games' DC metro people do.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope NOVA politics don't go down MD and DCs path. Nova has a lot of diversity and yet crime remains low.

That graph is difficult to comprehend. tale of two cities (no wonder NOVA is surging ahead of MD)

Fairfax county is indeed starting to go down that path. I see it and want OUT. Husband is holding strong. Probably will break us up.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

I don't understand why people think they can dress/groom any way they want and not be 'profiled'. I had two little kids and was house hunting on a rainy day - was dressed in sweats - and a realtor at a new home community looked me up and down and refused to take me through the model because I didn't look like I could afford it. Her loss - we wanted to buy two lots. I was most certainly profiled, and have been in the past many times, as has my husband. We are tech people and don't play the same 'games' DC metro people do.

Yeah I don’t understand it either.
I mean what makes a Muslim wearing a hijab or a Sikh wearing a turban think they can walk around like that? They bring profiling and prejudice on themselves. What makes a woman think she can walk around displaying her cleavage? She brings profiling and harassment on herself. What makes a homosexual teen think he can walk around with feminine mannerisms? He brings profiling and bullying upon himself. And why do blacks and Latinos think they can walk around with anything other than business professional attire on and not be profiled? They bring suspicions on themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

I don't understand why people think they can dress/groom any way they want and not be 'profiled'. I had two little kids and was house hunting on a rainy day - was dressed in sweats - and a realtor at a new home community looked me up and down and refused to take me through the model because I didn't look like I could afford it. Her loss - we wanted to buy two lots. I was most certainly profiled, and have been in the past many times, as has my husband. We are tech people and don't play the same 'games' DC metro people do.

Yeah I don’t understand it either.
I mean what makes a Muslim wearing a hijab or a Sikh wearing a turban think they can walk around like that? They bring profiling and prejudice on themselves. What makes a woman think she can walk around displaying her cleavage? She brings profiling and harassment on herself. What makes a homosexual teen think he can walk around with feminine mannerisms? He brings profiling and bullying upon himself. And why do blacks and Latinos think they can walk around with anything other than business professional attire on and not be profiled? They bring suspicions on themselves.

OP here. Agreed. No excuse for profiling.

However this is not the topic. Crime in not low in NOVA because cops profile (at least no more\less than DC or MD). Cops do a good job here and the community works with them. And the courts do their job.

Not sure why the rest of the area does not. As a PP pointed out this has long term economic consequences for MD primarily. Dc with crime will still be ok due to location.

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Anonymous wrote:The WAPO crime map is telling of what happens to similar communities that value laws and safety over nearby communities that don't.

NOVA is boring and Maryland is exciting (also just lol at the poster using her son as anecdotal evidence to try and explain a trend and arguing with crack arguments) or people in Rosslyn are armed in masse are poor arguments.

Implement laws fairly and come does not gain a foothold. Plenty of countries with far bigger rich-poor divide with lower crime rate than DC.

I'm the poster with the anecdotal evidence regarding my son. Not sure the trend except to say that most black kids have no desire to hang out in VA. I'm black and my father was from VA. He was born in 1920 and worked like hell to get out of VA.

I have VERY few black friends who live in VA. I'm not suggesting that no black people live there, I'm just stating that it doesn't tend to be our first choice. As a matter of fact, I have a girlfriend who suggested to her husband that they consider VA and he said hell no! He's a law firm partner.

I think the issues are more historical then crime fighting. Most criminals don't think about the laws before they commit a crime. If that was the case, there would be less crime in Atlanta, Miami and all of those other open carry places.

Yes, NOVA has less crime. I wonder if that's more of an economic issue than anything else. If you consider similar zip codes in MD and DC, the crime may be a little higher, but I'm sure it won't be much. It's hard to compare an entire city (DC) to a part of VA (NOVA). Trust and believe, there are some really rough places in VA.

I live in a very nice neighborhood in Alexandria VA. About four blocks from my house is a large section townhouses owned by the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority. The occupants are black and have ruined the neighborhood school and are responsible for all the petty crimes in the area like shoplifting at the grocery store, car break ins, and public drunkeness.

We put up with it for the convenience to the city. Our neighborhood police liaison reports that our police area has the lowest crime rate in the city. It is much worse in Old Town and DelRay

Again, economic.

Maybe in your ill-informed world.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

Maybe they should reconsider dreadlocks.

Trying to remember that Chris Rock skit... “Don’t want to get yo’ a** beat by the cops? Don’t do X!”

I'm not saying that it's OK for your kid to be profiled, but I rarely see any professional (not NFL lol) black males with dreadlocks. And all his friends having dreads doesn't help the situation. Do they "sag" also? People judge you based on how you look. I'm sure you do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

Maybe they should reconsider dreadlocks.

Trying to remember that Chris Rock skit... “Don’t want to get yo’ a** beat by the cops? Don’t do X!”

I'm not saying that it's OK for your kid to be profiled, but I rarely see any professional (not NFL lol) black males with dreadlocks. And all his friends having dreads doesn't help the situation. Do they "sag" also? People judge you based on how you look. I'm sure you do the same.

(In other words foreigners, minorities, gays, and non-Christians bring harassment, prejudice, bullying, and discrimination on themselves by not aligning with white social norms. Thanks for putting it so gently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

Maybe they should reconsider dreadlocks.

Trying to remember that Chris Rock skit... “Don’t want to get yo’ a** beat by the cops? Don’t do X!”

I'm not saying that it's OK for your kid to be profiled, but I rarely see any professional (not NFL lol) black males with dreadlocks. And all his friends having dreads doesn't help the situation. Do they "sag" also? People judge you based on how you look. I'm sure you do the same.

(In other words foreigners, minorities, gays, and non-Christians bring harassment, prejudice, bullying, and discrimination on themselves by not aligning with white social norms. Thanks for putting it so gently.

We're a country based on British-Judeo-Christian values. If that's not your thing, then perhaps you should find a country that is more to your liking. Like Zimbabwe?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington

Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!

Maybe they should reconsider dreadlocks.

Trying to remember that Chris Rock skit... “Don’t want to get yo’ a** beat by the cops? Don’t do X!”

I'm not saying that it's OK for your kid to be profiled, but I rarely see any professional (not NFL lol) black males with dreadlocks. And all his friends having dreads doesn't help the situation. Do they "sag" also? People judge you based on how you look. I'm sure you do the same.

(In other words foreigners, minorities, gays, and non-Christians bring harassment, prejudice, bullying, and discrimination on themselves by not aligning with white social norms. Thanks for putting it so gently.

Foreigner here kindly asking you to drop the typical only-in-America bs.

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Virginia was a red state until recently . The crime rate will pick up at an exponential rate. Red states are safer due to common sense . Get out of Virginia while you can still trick people into buying your house .

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Anonymous wrote:Is this a trick question? There are more poor blacks in DC and MD than in VA.

OP here. Not a trick question. Plenty of poor people in Woodbridge and geographic demographics do not explain why someone from MD or DC would not just cross the bridge and commit crimes in VA. in fact they routinely do between DC and MD.

It's much easier to get from D.C. to MD and back. It's much harder to get to VA from D.C. The river is a good barrier. Look at the crime in NW DC compared to the rest of D.C. Rock Creek park works as an effective barrier as well.