Metro incident and why crime in MD and DC greater than NOVA

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The WAPO crime map is telling of what happens to similar communities that value laws and safety over nearby communities that don't.

NOVA is boring and Maryland is exciting (also just lol at the poster using her son as anecdotal evidence to try and explain a trend and arguing with crack arguments) or people in Rosslyn are armed in masse are poor arguments.

Implement laws fairly and come does not gain a foothold. Plenty of countries with far bigger rich-poor divide with lower crime rate than DC.



I'm the poster with the anecdotal evidence regarding my son. Not sure the trend except to say that most black kids have no desire to hang out in VA. I'm black and my father was from VA. He was born in 1920 and worked like hell to get out of VA.

I have VERY few black friends who live in VA. I'm not suggesting that no black people live there, I'm just stating that it doesn't tend to be our first choice. As a matter of fact, I have a girlfriend who suggested to her husband that they consider VA and he said hell no! He's a law firm partner.

I think the issues are more historical then crime fighting. Most criminals don't think about the laws before they commit a crime. If that was the case, there would be less crime in Atlanta, Miami and all of those other open carry places.

Yes, NOVA has less crime. I wonder if that's more of an economic issue than anything else. If you consider similar zip codes in MD and DC, the crime may be a little higher, but I'm sure it won't be much. It's hard to compare an entire city (DC) to a part of VA (NOVA). Trust and believe, there are some really rough places in VA.




I live in a very nice neighborhood in Alexandria VA. About four blocks from my house is a large section townhouses owned by the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority. The occupants are black and have ruined the neighborhood school and are responsible for all the petty crimes in the area like shoplifting at the grocery store, car break ins, and public drunkeness.

We put up with it for the convenience to the city. Our neighborhood police liaison reports that our police area has the lowest crime rate in the city. It is much worse in Old Town and DelRay



Again, economic.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The WAPO crime map is telling of what happens to similar communities that value laws and safety over nearby communities that don't.

NOVA is boring and Maryland is exciting (also just lol at the poster using her son as anecdotal evidence to try and explain a trend and arguing with crack arguments) or people in Rosslyn are armed in masse are poor arguments.

Implement laws fairly and come does not gain a foothold. Plenty of countries with far bigger rich-poor divide with lower crime rate than DC.



I'm the poster with the anecdotal evidence regarding my son. Not sure the trend except to say that most black kids have no desire to hang out in VA. I'm black and my father was from VA. He was born in 1920 and worked like hell to get out of VA.

I have VERY few black friends who live in VA. I'm not suggesting that no black people live there, I'm just stating that it doesn't tend to be our first choice. As a matter of fact, I have a girlfriend who suggested to her husband that they consider VA and he said hell no! He's a law firm partner.

I think the issues are more historical then crime fighting. Most criminals don't think about the laws before they commit a crime. If that was the case, there would be less crime in Atlanta, Miami and all of those other open carry places.

Yes, NOVA has less crime. I wonder if that's more of an economic issue than anything else. If you consider similar zip codes in MD and DC, the crime may be a little higher, but I'm sure it won't be much. It's hard to compare an entire city (DC) to a part of VA (NOVA). Trust and believe, there are some really rough places in VA.




I live in a very nice neighborhood in Alexandria VA. About four blocks from my house is a large section townhouses owned by the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority. The occupants are black and have ruined the neighborhood school and are responsible for all the petty crimes in the area like shoplifting at the grocery store, car break ins, and public drunkeness.

We put up with it for the convenience to the city. Our neighborhood police liaison reports that our police area has the lowest crime rate in the city. It is much worse in Old Town and DelRay



Again, economic.


And personal values.

Or rather lack of them.
Anonymous
I hope NOVA politics don't go down MD and DCs path. Nova has a lot of diversity and yet crime remains low.

That graph is difficult to comprehend. tale of two cities (no wonder NOVA is surging ahead of MD)
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I hope NOVA politics don't go down MD and DCs path. Nova has a lot of diversity and yet crime remains low.

That graph is difficult to comprehend. tale of two cities (no wonder NOVA is surging ahead of MD)


Honestly I will leave the region if NOVA becomes like DC or MD. MD is basically a communist fiefdom and DC is a lawless province filled with litter and boring restaurants.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington


Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!


Maybe they should reconsider dreadlocks.

Trying to remember that Chris Rock skit... “Don’t want to get yo’ a** beat by the cops? Don’t do X!”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington


Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!


Maybe they should reconsider dreadlocks.

Trying to remember that Chris Rock skit... “Don’t want to get yo’ a** beat by the cops? Don’t do X!”


That's awful advice.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VA in general actually has a functioning justice system compared to the joke of a revolving door that DC calls its court system?


This is certainly part of this. I"m a landlord in MoCo and my friend is a landlord in Fairfax. He can have the sheriff at the door of a non-paying tenant for eviction in under a week. In MoCo, it takes about 3 months (just the sheriff appointment is scheduled 6 weeks out).


In DC the landlord can NEVER evict a non paying tenant, they can stay as long as they like.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope NOVA politics don't go down MD and DCs path. Nova has a lot of diversity and yet crime remains low.

That graph is difficult to comprehend. tale of two cities (no wonder NOVA is surging ahead of MD)


Honestly I will leave the region if NOVA becomes like DC or MD. MD is basically a communist fiefdom and DC is a lawless province filled with litter and boring restaurants.


DC is so lawless that people keep moving into the city.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like you're racist if you don't think your black son "fits in' in Arlington


Woman please. I've seen my son get profiled a ton all over town. If he and his friends where hanging out in Arlington - they all have dreadlocks - they would get profiled. Period!


Where us the "town" where your son is profiled?


He was profiled in Wheaton Plaza getting Chipotle. He was profiled in Colonial Village (one of the nicest parts of DC) in front of our house in Sponge Bob pants getting groceries out of the car. He was profiled in Georgetown...

Shall I continue? Profiled meaning that he fit a "profile" and the police stopped and asked him questions.


But not in Virginia, much less Arlington. The same police strategies that keep crime at a low level in Virginia are used to find criminals not to profile kids.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I hope NOVA politics don't go down MD and DCs path. Nova has a lot of diversity and yet crime remains low.

That graph is difficult to comprehend. tale of two cities (no wonder NOVA is surging ahead of MD)


Honestly I will leave the region if NOVA becomes like DC or MD. MD is basically a communist fiefdom and DC is a lawless province filled with litter and boring restaurants.


DC is so lawless that people keep moving into the city.


Yes. And when their car is vandalized for the third time in a month and their Christmas decorations are trashed, they move out of DC. These and similar vandalism made us and many friends leave DC in the last few years. It is fun to be edgy but it starts to wear in the third year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:VA in general actually has a functioning justice system compared to the joke of a revolving door that DC calls its court system?


This is certainly part of this. I"m a landlord in MoCo and my friend is a landlord in Fairfax. He can have the sheriff at the door of a non-paying tenant for eviction in under a week. In MoCo, it takes about 3 months (just the sheriff appointment is scheduled 6 weeks out).


In DC the landlord can NEVER evict a non paying tenant, they can stay as long as they like.


Tenants for life were created by the mayor for life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The WAPO crime map is telling of what happens to similar communities that value laws and safety over nearby communities that don't.

NOVA is boring and Maryland is exciting (also just lol at the poster using her son as anecdotal evidence to try and explain a trend and arguing with crack arguments) or people in Rosslyn are armed in masse are poor arguments.

Implement laws fairly and come does not gain a foothold. Plenty of countries with far bigger rich-poor divide with lower crime rate than DC.



I'm the poster with the anecdotal evidence regarding my son. Not sure the trend except to say that most black kids have no desire to hang out in VA. I'm black and my father was from VA. He was born in 1920 and worked like hell to get out of VA.

I have VERY few black friends who live in VA. I'm not suggesting that no black people live there, I'm just stating that it doesn't tend to be our first choice. As a matter of fact, I have a girlfriend who suggested to her husband that they consider VA and he said hell no! He's a law firm partner.

I think the issues are more historical then crime fighting. Most criminals don't think about the laws before they commit a crime. If that was the case, there would be less crime in Atlanta, Miami and all of those other open carry places.

Yes, NOVA has less crime. I wonder if that's more of an economic issue than anything else. If you consider similar zip codes in MD and DC, the crime may be a little higher, but I'm sure it won't be much. It's hard to compare an entire city (DC) to a part of VA (NOVA). Trust and believe, there are some really rough places in VA.




I live in a very nice neighborhood in Alexandria VA. About four blocks from my house is a large section townhouses owned by the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority. The occupants are black and have ruined the neighborhood school and are responsible for all the petty crimes in the area like shoplifting at the grocery store, car break ins, and public drunkeness.

We put up with it for the convenience to the city. Our neighborhood police liaison reports that our police area has the lowest crime rate in the city. It is much worse in Old Town and DelRay



Again, economic.


That is not what UCR and other data says.
Anonymous
In my Arlington neighborhood the police canvassed a 10 sq block area for two weeks just so they could catch a package thief. Later on they patrolled the entire orange line corridor at 4AM in order to catch a serial sexual assaulter that was preying on early morning women joggers. There are just more resources available to actually pursue criminals in Arlington.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is this a trick question? There are more poor blacks in DC and MD than in VA.


OP here. Not a trick question. Plenty of poor people in Woodbridge and geographic demographics do not explain why someone from MD or DC would not just cross the bridge and commit crimes in VA. in fact they routinely do between DC and MD.


Yes, but everyone knows that poor blacks are more prone to violence and crime than poor Asians, whites and Latinos.

And poor blacks like in DC and in PG, not in Virginia.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:In my Arlington neighborhood the police canvassed a 10 sq block area for two weeks just so they could catch a package thief. Later on they patrolled the entire orange line corridor at 4AM in order to catch a serial sexual assaulter that was preying on early morning women joggers. There are just more resources available to actually pursue criminals in Arlington.


In NW DC, you can usually catch the police patrolling (strolling, actually) the aisles of the Best Buy, where they like to hand out while on duty.
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