The Bachelorette Makes Her Choice ...

[Anonymous]

I thought thus was a funny commentary by Millionaire Matchmaker. I have to say I too would really like to see Dean as the next Bachelor.

https://mobile.twitter.com/extratv/status/895821235937886208/video/1

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http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/bachelorette-rachel-lindsay-bryan-abasolo-fighting-139213

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But I digress: what I didn't like about Rachel's behavior in the finale was that her words (I knew what I was doing) and her actions (acting as if she wanted/needed Peter) did not align, and that doesn't jive with what we've otherwise seen of her from the past two seasons.

This exactly. I think the backlash is based on her actions vs. her words. In her defense, she didn't get a chance to process the truth. She saw the break-up and how they felt about each other on live tv with the rest of us and i think she panicked. (I know for a fact i would too.) She put up her defenses and came off as less than genuine -- which was not who she was throughout her run. In a way, ABC set her up for the backlash by combining the after the rose show with the finale. I don't think she deserves the hate she's getting and I do think if she allows herself to rewatch that breakup and see what is so obvious to anyone with a pulse, part of her will regret the outcome. That sucks for her.

I felt sort of bad for her. Like who at ABC doesn't like her/must be all about the ratings. I agree that Rachel had her defenses up. She even answered Chris honestly that she didn't want to be there. I don't know that I would have handled it any better either. Not that this may have been the case but I read an article the other day about the "strong black woman" stereotype and while it is given as praise etc, it can also have a downside that you can't have those moments of vulnerabilities and everyone expects you to be strong all the time. Also can also be used to almost give a pass to behavior of the guy. Like she can handle it if the guy does her wrong. She isn't a sweet Southern flower that needs to be protected. Someone was mentioning how the Bachelorette Emily said she would be "straight hood rat" and went off on Kalon. He apologized on air and she rejected his apology. Everyone in the audience cheered and it made the top 10 Bachelor/Bachelorette moments. I don't think Rachel gave even 1/10th of that emotion and she is being villafied.

Yes, even though Rachel could have fake accepted his apology for the one comment, she chose to keep it real. Even though Peter said "I shouldn't have said that" I would want to know, well why did you? I really didn't see Peter being vulnerable. Yes he said he was shaking and and practically crying before coming out but what for?. I saw nothing in his actions that said anything other than "Sorry I couldn't be on your timetable". So he always had the power in the situation even in the "apology". It's like people said, there were so many times you would have thought he was the Bachelor and she was the contestant. Nick with all of all his issues, when he was in Andi's season I think was really in love with Andi and admitted he was hurt. Peter would say "I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you". Not "I was hurting because xyz, and I felt this and instead of handling it this way I tried to hurt you". He apologized without owning anything, sort of like when I make my kids say sorry when they hit each other but you know it's a #sorry/not sorry. Or the "sorry, I have a sister that does xyz that puts me in a situation that I need to apologize" - that's my personal favorite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought thus was a funny commentary by Millionaire Matchmaker. I have to say I too would really like to see Dean as the next Bachelor.

https://mobile.twitter.com/extratv/status/895821235937886208/video/1

This was great. I'll glad to see a relationship "expert" back up Rachel. BTW - I'd be all for a Dean as the bachelor. He is so cute and with a great quirky sense of style. Plus, I'd love to see more awkward scenes with his interesting father.

[Anonymous]

Dean and his father could have their own spin off reality show.

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Anonymous wrote:Excellent post, 00:38.

What most viewers DON'T know is that Peter spent the whole time the season was airing like absolutely awful, super negative comments about Bryan- unhinged comments that attacked Bryan for his looks, his character, his family. Comments that really went above and beyond reasonable viewer critique.

And Peter gave validation to his nasty fans by repeatedly liking those comments.

YET Peter would post on Instagram about how everyone should be nice and kind. Completely hypocritical.

A source who knows Peter described him to Reality Steve as an emotional, manipulative basketcase. I think we'll definitely see more of that on his season.

My guess is Reality Steve's source is Rachel, Bryan, or someone close to them.

Agreed, Reality Steve isn't held to any high standard of journalism for his sources. All the people calling and email him could just be jilted ex's, high school people holding a grudge, and contestants who just didn't jive with him as a roommate. I really do not put stock in RS's "intel."

Reality Steve has correctly guessed the winner for every season he has covered. Seriously. What is your "intel?" The show is heavily produced not crazy that they could make Peter look as desireable as possible in order to transition to the Bachelor.

+1

The show is all about seyting up viewers to love the NEXT lead.

[Anonymous]

This was a good article from yahoo regarding if Rachel settled.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/those-think-rachel-settled-bachelorette-183015451.html

[Anonymous]

Peter wanted to control the situation from start to finish. His behavior at the breakup was borderline scary, the way he spoke to her.

And yea, I believe what Reality Steve says. We already know Peter struggled with anorexia. We already know he went to counseling to help calm his thoughts. And then the way he spoke to her... I think he's emotionally unwell and not right for the harsh glare of reality spotlight.

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Anonymous wrote:Peter wanted to control the situation from start to finish. His behavior at the breakup was borderline scary, the way he spoke to her.

And yea, I believe what Reality Steve says. We already know Peter struggled with anorexia. We already know he went to counseling to help calm his thoughts. And then the way he spoke to her... I think he's emotionally unwell and not right for the harsh glare of reality spotlight.

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Anonymous wrote:This was a good article from yahoo regarding if Rachel settled.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/those-think-rachel-settled-bachelorette-183015451.html

I don't mind that she picked Bryan. What I didn't like is that she didn't seem to care about Peter anymore. He expressed emotion that he was hurt, he apologized about the mediocre comment, he said he still would always care about her. She was on her high horse living her best life. Fame has gone to her head and now she wants to move to LA. It seems like she quickly turned greedy and self centered once she got that ring. She wants to have 4 kids and also get into broadcast journalism. Good luck with that, Rachel.

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I've posted a few times already. What strikes me is that, fine, Peter was slower to move ahead than Bryan. So, what if he proclaimed his love for her, too. Would she then pick him? She just wanted to have the satisfaction of knowing both love her (at least by the words), before still choosing Bryan. I guess fair enough, so that she doesn't feel she missed out on anything. In the end, there still is a lot we don't know, of course. If she/Bryan are more so about the passion, maybe their 'suite' night was more spectacular than with Peter, for all we know.

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Anonymous wrote:This was a good article from yahoo regarding if Rachel settled.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/those-think-rachel-settled-bachelorette-183015451.html

I'm seriously confused about how the author came up with this article. People are surprised that Rachel chose Bryan over Peter because they could see the honest and real connection that Rachel and Peter had for one another. It has nothing to do with some expectation on how black women should behave.

[Anonymous]

I found it really interesting that they are so in love etc yet their plans for the future are about how to "bring their lives together."
So they've been engaged for months and can't figure out who is moving where?! And the fact they are considering LA means they're hoping to spin off into some entertainment industry stuff.
I hope they're happy but I really doubt they last.

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Anonymous wrote:This was a good article from yahoo regarding if Rachel settled.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/those-think-rachel-settled-bachelorette-183015451.html

I'm seriously confused about how the author came up with this article. People are surprised that Rachel chose Bryan over Peter because they could see the honest and real connection that Rachel and Peter had for one another. It has nothing to do with some expectation on how black women should behave.

Why does Peter's feelings always seem more valid than Rachel's? How is it settling to go on a show where the end game is love and engagement and choose the person that you are in love with and wants to marry you? If we respect the choice Peter makes, that no matter how much he cares for a woman, he isn't going to propose after 8-9 weeks, we also should respect the choice Rachel makes in choosing the person she feels "wants the same things she wants and wants it with her". I see pace of relationship as being something people need to be on the same page.

What frustrated me about Peter was that he would put her choices down to lift up his own and then social media would take that and run. The narrative is that she was throwing everything away because she wants a promise of marriage. You could turn that around and say that he is throwing everything away because he doesn't. The truth is they equally have the right to pursue what they want and no one is throwing anything away - they weren't a good match.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was a good article from yahoo regarding if Rachel settled.


https://www.yahoo.com/news/those-think-rachel-settled-bachelorette-183015451.html

I'm seriously confused about how the author came up with this article. People are surprised that Rachel chose Bryan over Peter because they could see the honest and real connection that Rachel and Peter had for one another. It has nothing to do with some expectation on how black women should behave.

Why does Peter's feelings always seem more valid than Rachel's? How is it settling to go on a show where the end game is love and engagement and choose the person that you are in love with and wants to marry you? If we respect the choice Peter makes, that no matter how much he cares for a woman, he isn't going to propose after 8-9 weeks, we also should respect the choice Rachel makes in choosing the person she feels "wants the same things she wants and wants it with her". I see pace of relationship as being something people need to be on the same page.

What frustrated me about Peter was that he would put her choices down to lift up his own and then social media would take that and run. The narrative is that she was throwing everything away because she wants a promise of marriage. You could turn that around and say that he is throwing everything away because he doesn't. The truth is they equally have the right to pursue what they want and no one is throwing anything away - they weren't a good match.

I agree with everything that you said. Both have the right to make the best decision for themselves. I however disagreed with the writer of the article who claims that people are giving Rachel a hard time for her decision because society punishes black women who are in control.