Where will my Shepherd Elem kid go to middle/high school?

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If you get accepted IB to PK4 and enroll with your IB paperwork, can you then move within DC over the summer but stay enrolled at the school? Would you have to notify the school of your new address?

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Anonymous wrote:If you get accepted IB to PK4 and enroll with your IB paperwork, can you then move within DC over the summer but stay enrolled at the school? Would you have to notify the school of your new address?

Page 8 of this handbook explains the policy. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY17-18%20Enrollment%20and%20Lottery%20Handbook.pdf

It says if you move during the school year, you can stay. It is silent on a move before your child attends a single day. The policy is meant to not punish children whose family's circumstances change. I wouldn't do it but I'm uptight about rules.

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Anonymous wrote:If you get accepted IB to PK4 and enroll with your IB paperwork, can you then move within DC over the summer but stay enrolled at the school? Would you have to notify the school of your new address?

At our school, if you're in, you're in.

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Anonymous wrote:If you get accepted IB to PK4 and enroll with your IB paperwork, can you then move within DC over the summer but stay enrolled at the school? Would you have to notify the school of your new address?

Page 8 of this handbook explains the policy. https://dcps.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dcps/publication/attachments/SY17-18%20Enrollment%20and%20Lottery%20Handbook.pdf

It says if you move during the school year, you can stay. It is silent on a move before your child attends a single day. The policy is meant to not punish children whose family's circumstances change. I wouldn't do it but I'm uptight about rules.

That link says it applies to K-12, no mention of PK

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Anonymous wrote:If you get accepted IB to PK4 and enroll with your IB paperwork, can you then move within DC over the summer but stay enrolled at the school? Would you have to notify the school of your new address?

At our school, if you're in, you're in.

Are you sure?

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd WL IB kids this year for PK3. That's new. https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

It's actually not new. In 2015-2016, when there was only one PK3 class, there were 9 inbound students waitlisted in Round 1: https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/raw-data-dcps-round-1-results-msdc-lottery-sy15-16-seats

They added a second class in 2016-2017, and I think all the IBs got in, but the raw data for that year doesn't seem to include that info.

So, you may be right that it's the first year since adding a second PK3 class that all there is a waitlist. The fact that there are 43 3-year olds in-bounds is certainty a sign of a big influx of young families to SP!

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I'm not so sure about this. Shepherd Park is still attracting a lot of high SES AA families. PK4 is still majority AA by quite a bit.

The biggest potential demographics change would probably come if the apartment building proposed for Georgia & Eastern gets constructed and opens up a whole bunch of spots for in-boundary renters. But I'm not sure which way that would swing the demographics, honestly.

Shepherd Park is attracting higher SES families irrespective of their racial demographic, but the fact that it's higher SES means it will trend whiter just like every other gentrifying neighborhood in DC.

The idea that AA families will rent apartments in an apartment building that is still the in proposal stage and swing it towards one HS or another suggests that I need to be selling you something. Because I'd like some easy money and you'll buy anything.

Well, considering the original question was about something that's 8 years away, I don't think it's so crazy.

I'd challenge the idea that Shepherd Park is "gentrifying." It's been a high SES neighborhood forever. It may be getting younger, which may mean whiter in the context of DC's recent migration patterns, but I don't think the SES is changing all that substantially (which is my indicator of gentrification).

I also don't think the notion that the apt building is the main potential catalyst for any demographics change at the school. That's based on considering that:
1) SP is pretty small to begin with
2) It has a decent sized Orthodox population that generally goes to Jewish schools
3) Lots of houses are multi-generational, meaning that turnover is pretty limited
4) The housing stock is generally good and pricey

The apt building (which btw, I'm supportive of) is really the only thing that I think could change the school demographics considerably, as it removes all of the typical high SES barriers to entry. I think you'll see higher inbound population numbers for the school as a result of the more families sticking out public schools in DC, and seeking out certainty from the lottery all the way through MS and HS.

Low turnover only means aging in place. The menopausal ladies aren't sending any PreKers into Shepherd elementary. So either the white newcomers will fill up the school or else their proximal neighbors will via the OOB process. Either way the optics of eliminating Shepherd will only get easier.

The non-existent apartment coalition for rights to Wilson will never matter to anybody other than realtors.

Well all of my menopausal neighbors (primarily AA) have grandkids that live with them and they are still going to Shepherd. Shepherd will not change as much as some are indicating. The 12 home sales per year are not concentrated to one age of kid. What change you are seeing now is from people that have already lived in the neighborhood 3-10+ years and have decided to leave their OOB or charter school and give Shepherd a shot. Many of those (including myself) are AA.

I'm in Colonial Village and my neighbors are selling their homes to their kids who have kids. The folks in my neighborhood don' t need to gentrify, they already have money.

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Anonymous wrote:Shepherd WL IB kids this year for PK3. That's new. https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

It's actually not new. In 2015-2016, when there was only one PK3 class, there were 9 inbound students waitlisted in Round 1: https://dcps.dc.gov/publication/raw-data-dcps-round-1-results-msdc-lottery-sy15-16-seats

They added a second class in 2016-2017, and I think all the IBs got in, but the raw data for that year doesn't seem to include that info.

So, you may be right that it's the first year since adding a second PK3 class that all there is a waitlist. The fact that there are 43 3-year olds in-bounds is certainty a sign of a big influx of young families to SP!

That's what I took the PP to mean--first time there's an IB waitlist for PK3 with two classes.

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our school asks for address verification upon re-enrollment. Other schools don't?

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Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

I really don't think Shepherd is going to be removed from the Deal / Wilson feeder pattern.

However, it is only 2.2 miles to Coolidge -- which will be co-located with new North Middle School. MacFarland/Roosevelt are just over 3 miles away. DCPS rejected an IB program for MacFarland, so no logical reason why Shepherd would feed there over North Middle School.

"We have an IB program for elementary school, so therefore we should feed Deal and therefore Wilson" (which is AP, btw not IB Diploma) isn't compelling as a programmatic argument. And since the local privates that do IB are off the table, wouldn't Eastern make the most sense?

No because it's 9 miles away.

Also because Eastern's IB Diploma program is a disgrace, barely limping along. The dozen "full IB" students in the program each year either barely clear the Diploma bar, or fail to accumulate enough points to pass. Moreover, Eastern isn't on track to attract a cohort of strong students from its catchment area, because very few of them attend the Ward 6 by-right middle schools feeding into Eastern (they go to Washington Latin, BASIS, privates etc. instead). Eastern is a dead-end for high SES families.

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A student entering K in the fall of 2017, will finish HS in 2030.

As skewed as DC politics are towards the living cemeteries of Ward 4, they won't be alive to keep SP in Wilson for 15 more years. Thank God. After all, isn't that why they're screwing us over Coolidge?

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Anonymous wrote:A student entering K in the fall of 2017, will finish HS in 2030.

As skewed as DC politics are towards the living cemeteries of Ward 4, they won't be alive to keep SP in Wilson for 15 more years. Thank God. After all, isn't that why they're screwing us over Coolidge?

Or they keep SP and kick out Bancroft. There are options.

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Anonymous wrote:A student entering K in the fall of 2017, will finish HS in 2030.

As skewed as DC politics are towards the living cemeteries of Ward 4, they won't be alive to keep SP in Wilson for 15 more years. Thank God. After all, isn't that why they're screwing us over Coolidge?

Living cemeteries? Really PP? You are a peach. Fwiw, ward 4 is one the fastest growing wards in terms of children under 5. Also those "living cemetery" folks have children - many of whom live with them and have activism in their blood. Don't count us ward 4 dead folks out any time soon.

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Anonymous wrote:A student entering K in the fall of 2017, will finish HS in 2030.

As skewed as DC politics are towards the living cemeteries of Ward 4, they won't be alive to keep SP in Wilson for 15 more years. Thank God. After all, isn't that why they're screwing us over Coolidge?

Or they keep SP and kick out Bancroft. There are options.

Neither would be enough. Only really answer would have to be both plus Lafayette but that would suck to happen when both schools are 50-60% IB. To continue to zone out any schools while 50% of the school is OOB seems plain silly to me.

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Anonymous wrote:A student entering K in the fall of 2017, will finish HS in 2030.

As skewed as DC politics are towards the living cemeteries of Ward 4, they won't be alive to keep SP in Wilson for 15 more years. Thank God. After all, isn't that why they're screwing us over Coolidge?

Or they keep SP and kick out Bancroft. There are options.

Neither would be enough. Only really answer would have to be both plus Lafayette but that would suck to happen when both schools are 50-60% IB. To continue to zone out any schools while 50% of the school is OOB seems plain silly to me.

It depends on what you are trying to do -- alleviate crowding at Deal or at Wilson, or both.

Plenty of Hardy feeder elementary schools have high OOB populations -- and Hardy itself is still majority OOB.