Where will my Shepherd Elem kid go to middle/high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When the elderly grandparent homeowners die, their children will be confronted with possibility of selling off the home for more than they dreamed of. They'll be more than happy to buy a brand new house in the suburbs.

I'm not making this up, I'm reading history at you. SP is only going to get whiter and easier to kick out of Wilson. This will happen, long before OP's 2 y.o. is looking at Deal.

I get what you're trying to say. As a matter of fact, I have a neighbor going through this now. For now, the children have decided to stay in the house and pay the taxes. However, I don't think you understand how small SP is. There will not be enough home sales that you describe to change the school's demographics from 79% black to majority white in 8 years. 20? Maybe. Certainly not 8. Also, I'm not sure you understand that a large percentage of the new people buying in the neighborhood are black, interracial (with a black spouse), and Jewish with kids going to JPDS. My short block of 20 houses has a disporprtionate number of newbies. Of the families that attend IB (Shepherd, Deal, Wilson) and not private or charter, all but one is AA. Shepherd Park is a very unique neighborhood that can't really be compared to other schools/neighborhoods. You have to really live here and learn if the history to understand trends etc.

[Anonymous]

If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

The reason that being Jewish matters in SP is that it's walking distance to several synagogues, and many families 'pass along' (sell) their houses to someone else from their religious community. New Jewish families without connections can and do pay well over market to get into that neighborhood; pocket listings are common. These families don't use DC public schools -- they use JPDS, or travel to Rockville to attend Charles E Smith.

Wilson doesn't decide who is in, or out, of its feeder pattern. That's a political decision as much as a demographic decision, and SP is a very small school.

Bancroft, which now has programmatic feeder rights to MacFarland as well as geographic feeder rights to Deal is more likely to 'lose' Deal in the near term. Setting up that option was the first step toward nudging them out, especially since Oyster Adams got to keep its Wilson feed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

I read the preceding post bitch. The argument was that pps were insisting that Shepherd will be a majority white school in 8 years and PP politely explained why that won't be the case. Setting the middle school/high school feed aside, one should not make projections about a DCPS school that has special dynamics that many don't care to understand. So no, dear, Shepherd elementary will not be majority white in 8 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

The reason that being Jewish matters in SP is that it's walking distance to several synagogues, and many families 'pass along' (sell) their houses to someone else from their religious community. New Jewish families without connections can and do pay well over market to get into that neighborhood; pocket listings are common. These families don't use DC public schools -- they use JPDS, or travel to Rockville to attend Charles E Smith.

Wilson doesn't decide who is in, or out, of its feeder pattern. That's a political decision as much as a demographic decision, and SP is a very small school.

Bancroft, which now has programmatic feeder rights to MacFarland as well as geographic feeder rights to Deal is more likely to 'lose' Deal in the near term. Setting up that option was the first step toward nudging them out, especially since Oyster Adams got to keep its Wilson feed.

This. It's a political decision ultimately at the hands of the mayor - one that happens to live IB for Shepherd.

[Anonymous]

And the previous Mayor, who wants to be the future mayor, also didn't support moving Shepherd out of Deal's feed (Gray).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

I read the preceding post bitch. The argument was that pps were insisting that Shepherd will be a majority white school in 8 years and PP politely explained why that won't be the case. Setting the middle school/high school feed aside, one should not make projections about a DCPS school that has special dynamics that many don't care to understand. So no, dear, Shepherd elementary will not be majority white in 8 years.

When Deal hits 1700 students (in about 2 years) schools are going to get kicked out of the feeder pattern and whoever is closest to another alternative should start making plans now.

There's no need to swear at anyone, btw. That just proves that you're too emotional to think rationally about the subject. It's not persuasive - it's just low class (of course, that may be the one thing that could help you to stay in Deal, so vent away...).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

I read the preceding post bitch. The argument was that pps were insisting that Shepherd will be a majority white school in 8 years and PP politely explained why that won't be the case. Setting the middle school/high school feed aside, one should not make projections about a DCPS school that has special dynamics that many don't care to understand. So no, dear, Shepherd elementary will not be majority white in 8 years.

When Deal hits 1700 students (in about 2 years) schools are going to get kicked out of the feeder pattern and whoever is closest to another alternative should start making plans now.

There's no need to swear at anyone, btw. That just proves that you're too emotional to think rationally about the subject. It's not persuasive - it's just low class (of course, that may be the one thing that could help you to stay in Deal, so vent away...).

We aren't IB for deal but damn middle
Schools are bleaknin DC if paretns think a middle school with 1500 students is a good idea. That is such a huge transition, no middle schooler should be in a school that size

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

I read the preceding post bitch. The argument was that pps were insisting that Shepherd will be a majority white school in 8 years and PP politely explained why that won't be the case. Setting the middle school/high school feed aside, one should not make projections about a DCPS school that has special dynamics that many don't care to understand. So no, dear, Shepherd elementary will not be majority white in 8 years.

When Deal hits 1700 students (in about 2 years) schools are going to get kicked out of the feeder pattern and whoever is closest to another alternative should start making plans now.

There's no need to swear at anyone, btw. That just proves that you're too emotional to think rationally about the subject. It's not persuasive - it's just low class (of course, that may be the one thing that could help you to stay in Deal, so vent away...).

I am not emotional as I don't have a kid at either. However, the preceding "hunh" was condescending and quite bitchy so I call a spade a spade. If you (or the PP if you are someone else) thinks that removing Shepherd is enough (<40-50 kids), while Lafayette, Hearst, Murch, and Janney continue to increase, you're sadly mistaken. Either Lafayette will have to be removed as well, OOB feeders will have to stop, or another middle school and high school need to be created WOTP. While you're at it, a new elementary that pulls kids fron JLMurch needs to open as well. Janney parents have to stop being so anti-change and accept the inevitable. However, nothing will happen for another 7 years.

[Anonymous]

According to the 2016-17 OSSE enrollment data, there are now 538 6th graders at Deal.

However, the total number of 5th graders from the 6 Deal feeders is 439, significantly fewer.

So what will happen for next fall? Will 99+ students move IB for Deal or students now in charters or privates will enroll at Deal?

Or maybe, just maybe, things are leveling off a bit? https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment



we we really think that 99+ students will have moved to the Deal IB zone by the first day of school in 2017 or return to DCPS from charters/private etc?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

I read the preceding post bitch. The argument was that pps were insisting that Shepherd will be a majority white school in 8 years and PP politely explained why that won't be the case. Setting the middle school/high school feed aside, one should not make projections about a DCPS school that has special dynamics that many don't care to understand. So no, dear, Shepherd elementary will not be majority white in 8 years.

When Deal hits 1700 students (in about 2 years) schools are going to get kicked out of the feeder pattern and whoever is closest to another alternative should start making plans now.

There's no need to swear at anyone, btw. That just proves that you're too emotional to think rationally about the subject. It's not persuasive - it's just low class (of course, that may be the one thing that could help you to stay in Deal, so vent away...).

I am not emotional as I don't have a kid at either. However, the preceding "hunh" was condescending and quite bitchy so I call a spade a spade. If you (or the PP if you are someone else) thinks that removing Shepherd is enough (<40-50 kids), while Lafayette, Hearst, Murch, and Janney continue to increase, you're sadly mistaken. Either Lafayette will have to be removed as well, OOB feeders will have to stop, or another middle school and high school need to be created WOTP. While you're at it, a new elementary that pulls kids fron JLMurch needs to open as well. Janney parents have to stop being so anti-change and accept the inevitable. However, nothing will happen for another 7 years.

Why do you think that Janney parents are more anti-change than Murch, Lafayette, or, for that matter, Shepherd parents?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:According to the 2016-17 OSSE enrollment data, there are now 538 6th graders at Deal.

However, the total number of 5th graders from the 6 Deal feeders is 439, significantly fewer.

So what will happen for next fall? Will 99+ students move IB for Deal or students now in charters or privates will enroll at Deal?

Or maybe, just maybe, things are leveling off a bit? https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment



we we really think that 99+ students will have moved to the Deal IB zone by the first day of school in 2017 or return to DCPS from charters/private etc?

Or people who strike out in the lottery for MS and move IB? It's not unimaginable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If 20 families of Afro-Jewish heritage in Shepherd Park can swing an elementary from one middle school to another 8 years from now, then I need to know how to invest in the Illuminati.

Huh?

Try reading the preceding post. Hunh?

Shepherd Park, like all DC neighborhoods, is gentrifying. You can throw out "Oh! But we're multi-generational AA!" and "Oh! We're Jewish!" (btw, I have no idea what that's supposed to mean except that the PP who posted it first wants us to know that liberal white people who won't go to SP elementary with the AA children who ALSO won't go SP elementary are all similarly too wealthy too go to their local elementary.) What they want you to know is that it's because of their SES and not because of racial prejudice.

In the meantime, Wilson (a highly over-rated high school) will likely kick Shepherd Park out of its feeder pattern (via Deal, an also over-rated DCPS - in this case middle school).

I read the preceding post bitch. The argument was that pps were insisting that Shepherd will be a majority white school in 8 years and PP politely explained why that won't be the case. Setting the middle school/high school feed aside, one should not make projections about a DCPS school that has special dynamics that many don't care to understand. So no, dear, Shepherd elementary will not be majority white in 8 years.

When Deal hits 1700 students (in about 2 years) schools are going to get kicked out of the feeder pattern and whoever is closest to another alternative should start making plans now.

There's no need to swear at anyone, btw. That just proves that you're too emotional to think rationally about the subject. It's not persuasive - it's just low class (of course, that may be the one thing that could help you to stay in Deal, so vent away...).

I am not emotional as I don't have a kid at either. However, the preceding "hunh" was condescending and quite bitchy so I call a spade a spade. If you (or the PP if you are someone else) thinks that removing Shepherd is enough (<40-50 kids), while Lafayette, Hearst, Murch, and Janney continue to increase, you're sadly mistaken. Either Lafayette will have to be removed as well, OOB feeders will have to stop, or another middle school and high school need to be created WOTP. While you're at it, a new elementary that pulls kids fron JLMurch needs to open as well. Janney parents have to stop being so anti-change and accept the inevitable. However, nothing will happen for another 7 years.

Why do you think that Janney parents are more anti-change than Murch, Lafayette, or, for that matter, Shepherd parents?

IMO Janey parents were the most vocal about not losing access to Janey during the last boundary discussions. They weren't even at risk of losing Deal/Wilson but they were fighting tooth and nail to not be moved.