Where will my Shepherd Elem kid go to middle/high school?

[Anonymous]

Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. Plus, Hearst"s numbers are skewed because of the autism program which is mostly OOB. The early grades at Hearst are 75% plus IB. DCPS is going to have to come up with a new scheme to keep the Wilson/Deal pipeline open to the OOB population.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. Plus, Hearst"s numbers are skewed because of the autism program which is mostly OOB. The early grades at Hearst are 75% plus IB. DCPS is going to have to come up with a new scheme to keep the Wilson/Deal pipeline open to the OOB population.

OT. How many kids are in the autism program?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. Plus, Hearst"s numbers are skewed because of the autism program which is mostly OOB. The early grades at Hearst are 75% plus IB. DCPS is going to have to come up with a new scheme to keep the Wilson/Deal pipeline open to the OOB population.

OT. How many kids are in the autism program?

16 - 20 kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. Plus, Hearst"s numbers are skewed because of the autism program which is mostly OOB. The early grades at Hearst are 75% plus IB. DCPS is going to have to come up with a new scheme to keep the Wilson/Deal pipeline open to the OOB population.

This is also true for Shepherd. Give it a few more years and unless any of these schools are removed from the Deal/Wilson feed, they will all be mostly IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. Plus, Hearst"s numbers are skewed because of the autism program which is mostly OOB. The early grades at Hearst are 75% plus IB. DCPS is going to have to come up with a new scheme to keep the Wilson/Deal pipeline open to the OOB population.

This is also true for Shepherd. Give it a few more years and unless any of these schools are removed from the Deal/Wilson feed, they will all be mostly IB.

P.S. I was told by a school admin person recently that Shepherd's IB% is now up from 35% to 43%. I'm sure the official numbers for this year will be published at some point, but in the meantime, this is what the admin person said re: the current school year.

I'm sure Hearst is similarly much higher IB this year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. ...

This is also true for Shepherd. Give it a few more years and unless any of these schools are removed from the Deal/Wilson feed, they will all be mostly IB.

P.S. I was told by a school admin person recently that Shepherd's IB% is now up from 35% to 43%. I'm sure the official numbers for this year will be published at some point, but in the meantime, this is what the admin person said re: the current school year.

I'm sure Hearst is similarly much higher IB this year.

The enrollment details for 2017-18 are posted here: https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

Hearst had 39 slots for PK4, and all 39 were filled by IB applicants. Hearst had 0 available slots for for any other grades.

Shepherd had 38 slots for PK3 + PK4, and all 38 were filled by IB applicants. Shepherd also had 26 more slots for grades K-5, and all of those were filled by OOB students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. ...

This is also true for Shepherd. Give it a few more years and unless any of these schools are removed from the Deal/Wilson feed, they will all be mostly IB.

P.S. I was told by a school admin person recently that Shepherd's IB% is now up from 35% to 43%. I'm sure the official numbers for this year will be published at some point, but in the meantime, this is what the admin person said re: the current school year.

I'm sure Hearst is similarly much higher IB this year.

The enrollment details for 2017-18 are posted here: https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

Hearst had 39 slots for PK4, and all 39 were filled by IB applicants. Hearst had 0 available slots for for any other grades.

Shepherd had 38 slots for PK3 + PK4, and all 38 were filled by IB applicants. Shepherd also had 26 more slots for grades K-5, and all of those were filled by OOB students.

That is a little redundant. Any slots at K or higher would be filled by OOB students. IB students don't have to enter the lottery.

But in any case, I'm not sure that it matters. Percentage of IB is not a measure of how good a school is. It is only a measure of where students live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Somebody has to be the OOB gateway. Right now it's Shepherd.

Shepherd has higher IB than Hearst so doesn't take that make Hearst the gateway?

If DCPS ever gets around to updating statistics on the school,profile page, you will see this is no longer true. Plus, Hearst"s numbers are skewed because of the autism program which is mostly OOB. The early grades at Hearst are 75% plus IB. DCPS is going to have to come up with a new scheme to keep the Wilson/Deal pipeline open to the OOB population.

This is also true for Shepherd. Give it a few more years and unless any of these schools are removed from the Deal/Wilson feed, they will all be mostly IB.

I think you are missing the larger point that is that by any objective measure (geography, travel time, transit options, etc.), Shepherd should no longer be zoned for Deal or Wilson because of the overcrowding. The politics are obvious. The are many homes zoned for Hearst that you can easily walk to Deal from.

[Anonymous]

That is a little redundant. Any slots at K or higher would be filled by OOB students. IB students don't have to enter the lottery.

What's your basis for that position? For the PK slots at every school, there's a clear breakout of IB vs OOB. Why wouldn't there be a breakout for slots above PK? Why wouldn't students entering at K or above go through the same lottery?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

That is a little redundant. Any slots at K or higher would be filled by OOB students. IB students don't have to enter the lottery.

What's your basis for that position? For the PK slots at every school, there's a clear breakout of IB vs OOB. Why wouldn't there be a breakout for slots above PK? Why wouldn't students entering at K or above go through the same lottery?

Because K and above are compulsory grades -- any IB student just needs to show up at the school and enroll. They do not enter the lottery at all.

Only OOB students apply via MSDC for K and above. Therefore, on the data released by DCPS, for Pk3 and PK4 you can see a distinction in lottery results between IB and OOB. The IB piece isn't relevant at K-12th.

[Anonymous]

Deal can't hold 2,000 students. It's already cracking. Somebody has to go. The most logical choices are the ones furthest away and/or connected to another program.

Send Bancroft from Deal, because Spanish can go to Adams or CHEC or Roosevelt.

Send Shepherd because the other side of the park is closer to MacFarland/Roosevelt/Coolidge.

Eaton & Oyster have already been dropped.

That leaves Janney, Lafayette, Murch, and Hearst. It's pretty hard to get rid of any of them from the Deal feed, so start restricting their boundaries (re-route some of them to other schools so that they feed Hardy or MacFarland instead).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deal can't hold 2,000 students. It's already cracking. Somebody has to go. The most logical choices are the ones furthest away and/or connected to another program.

Send Bancroft from Deal, because Spanish can go to Adams or CHEC or Roosevelt.

Send Shepherd because the other side of the park is closer to MacFarland/Roosevelt/Coolidge.

Eaton & Oyster have already been dropped.

That leaves Janney, Lafayette, Murch, and Hearst. It's pretty hard to get rid of any of them from the Deal feed, so start restricting their boundaries (re-route some of them to other schools so that they feed Hardy or MacFarland instead).

Oyster wasn't dropped from Wilson. That needs to happen too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Deal can't hold 2,000 students. It's already cracking. Somebody has to go. The most logical choices are the ones furthest away and/or connected to another program.

Send Bancroft from Deal, because Spanish can go to Adams or CHEC or Roosevelt.

Send Shepherd because the other side of the park is closer to MacFarland/Roosevelt/Coolidge.

Eaton & Oyster have already been dropped.

That leaves Janney, Lafayette, Murch, and Hearst. It's pretty hard to get rid of any of them from the Deal feed, so start restricting their boundaries (re-route some of them to other schools so that they feed Hardy or MacFarland instead).

Shepherd's further away, granted, but it is an International Baccalaureate World school. Deal is also an IB World school. Are there any other IB feeders to Deal?