Where will my Shepherd Elem kid go to middle/high school?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The solution for Deal and Wilson is to split the major feeders.

Send Murch/Eaton/Bancroft to Deal & Wilson

Send Janney/Lafayette/Shepard to a new middle school and High school. You've got 250+ kids per grade right there alone.

That's total madness. Believe it not the majority of taxpayers in DC don't have kids and would greatly appreciate a cost effective siolution that does not further add to the City's failing transportation network which by many studies has the worst traffic in the nation. Your solution fails on both those points.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The solution for Deal and Wilson is to split the major feeders.

Send Murch/Eaton/Bancroft to Deal & Wilson

Send Janney/Lafayette/Shepard to a new middle school and High school. You've got 250+ kids per grade right there alone.

Are you with the Montgomery County Realtors Association?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Someone said on our listserv today that they know a group of Lafayette parents who are actively campaigning to get EOTP students "out of Deal and Wilson."

Maybe I'm naive, but what's up with that? Why would this group (and not sure how large it is, or whether it represents the views of most WOTP families) want EOTP students out? At least, what are their stated reasons?

This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Someone said on our listserv today that they know a group of Lafayette parents who are actively campaigning to get EOTP students "out of Deal and Wilson."

Maybe I'm naive, but what's up with that? Why would this group (and not sure how large it is, or whether it represents the views of most WOTP families) want EOTP students out? At least, what are their stated reasons?

Whoops, PP here. Just realized I'm not the OP of this thread; I'm OP of the recent Ward 3 - Wilson feeders mtg thread. Sorry for the confusion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Someone said on our listserv today that they know a group of Lafayette parents who are actively campaigning to get EOTP students "out of Deal and Wilson."

Maybe I'm naive, but what's up with that? Why would this group (and not sure how large it is, or whether it represents the views of most WOTP families) want EOTP students out? At least, what are their stated reasons?

This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

How the hell are you attending Lafayette OOB while living near MacFarland??? That's a good example of why people get frustrated about overcrowded schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. Someone said on our listserv today that they know a group of Lafayette parents who are actively campaigning to get EOTP students "out of Deal and Wilson."

Maybe I'm naive, but what's up with that? Why would this group (and not sure how large it is, or whether it represents the views of most WOTP families) want EOTP students out? At least, what are their stated reasons?

This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

How the hell are you attending Lafayette OOB while living near MacFarland??? That's a good example of why people get frustrated about overcrowded schools.

Why does it matter where they live rather than simply being OOB? All Deal feeders continue to fill OOB, particularly in upper grades.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

How the hell are you attending Lafayette OOB while living near MacFarland??? That's a good example of why people get frustrated about overcrowded schools.

Why does it matter where they live rather than simply being OOB? All Deal feeders continue to fill OOB, particularly in upper grades.

Not true. Shepherd is the only Deal feeder that's accepting new OOB students. Even Hearst is now filled with IB students for the new enrollments. Here are the 2017-18 enrollment lottery results - https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

So how did PP get her OOB student into Lafayette? And why doesn't she attend hr local school MacFarland?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

How the hell are you attending Lafayette OOB while living near MacFarland??? That's a good example of why people get frustrated about overcrowded schools.

Why does it matter where they live rather than simply being OOB? All Deal feeders continue to fill OOB, particularly in upper grades.

Not true. Shepherd is the only Deal feeder that's accepting new OOB students. Even Hearst is now filled with IB students for the new enrollments. Here are the 2017-18 enrollment lottery results - https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

So how did PP get her OOB student into Lafayette? And why doesn't she attend hr local school MacFarland?

Maybe she got her kid into Lafayette a few years ago?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

How the hell are you attending Lafayette OOB while living near MacFarland??? That's a good example of why people get frustrated about overcrowded schools.

Why does it matter where they live rather than simply being OOB? All Deal feeders continue to fill OOB, particularly in upper grades.

Not true. Shepherd is the only Deal feeder that's accepting new OOB students. Even Hearst is now filled with IB students for the new enrollments. Here are the 2017-18 enrollment lottery results - https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

So how did PP get her OOB student into Lafayette? And why doesn't she attend hr local school MacFarland?

Maybe she got her kid into Lafayette a few years ago?

And unless her kid attended one of the DCPS bilingual schools that feed int McFarland's Spanish program, there is no McFarland for her to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so funny to me. We attend Lafayette OOB but live near Macflarland. It's faster to drive from Lafayette to Macfarland (straight shot across Military, easy dedicated, easier than Shepherd's dedicated bus) than it is from Lafayette to Deal (often takes several lights just to make left on Nebraska and then to cross CT). Especially with Lafayette being ward 4 and the largest feeder. They may want to be careful.

How the hell are you attending Lafayette OOB while living near MacFarland??? That's a good example of why people get frustrated about overcrowded schools.

Why does it matter where they live rather than simply being OOB? All Deal feeders continue to fill OOB, particularly in upper grades.

Not true. Shepherd is the only Deal feeder that's accepting new OOB students. Even Hearst is now filled with IB students for the new enrollments. Here are the 2017-18 enrollment lottery results - https://dcps.dc.gov/page/my-school-dc-lottery-results

So how did PP get her OOB student into Lafayette? And why doesn't she attend hr local school MacFarland?

MacFarland is a middle school. If PP's kid goes to Lafayette, s/he is in elementary school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is also doing IB MYP certification, not that that helps anyone in Shepherd Park.

I agree that Bancroft and Oyster should go to MacFarland and on to Roosevelt, and Shepherd should go to New North (when it opens) and then Coolidge.

Adams could be used as a PK campus with priority for schools that don't offer PK3 and plenty of room for early stages and other special ed placements. I also imagine some schools WOTP will run out of room for PK4 eventually, so it could help manage that.

Do you really think removing Bancroft and Shepherd is enough to alleviate Deal?

Of course not. It's called "low-hanging fruit." The hard work is re-drawing the boundaries of Janney, Lafayette, Murch, and Hearst in order to make them smaller. Obviously those students need to go to Hardy (which will remove Hardy as an OOB feeder for Wilson).

Anyone who thinks the PYP IB program should entitle an elementary school to Deal is kidding themselves and doesn't understand how IB works. Deal is MYP IB and it's a dead end. It feeds Wilson which is AP. It was only a device to coax higher SES parents into the school, but it's middle school. Yes, IB is more prestigious than AP and takes more work (which is why Wilson hasn't done the work - it doesn't have to). Eastern HAS done the work (albeit the scores aren't great, but it is theoretically possible to get a prestigious IB diploma from Eastern).

This is part of the DCPS chess game. You win by leaving.

Yes, win by leaving, but what good does "theoretically" possible at Eastern do those of us in the catchment area? A high SES student can't in fact get a prestigious IB Diploma from Eastern, because IB Diplomas are really only as good as their pass point totals for the middle class and wealthy kids. The Eastern kids who pass (only around half who pursue IBD studies) are scraping by with totals in the 20s, mostly in the mid 20s (24-45 points is a pass). All over the country kids who clear the 40 point bar are routinely rejected by colleges admitting in the single digits.

Why aren't Deal parents making noise about no IB at Wilson? Wilson could run an integrated IBD-AP program - many high schools do that. Kids take a two-year course that prepares them well to take either exam.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Jefferson is also doing IB MYP certification, not that that helps anyone in Shepherd Park.

I agree that Bancroft and Oyster should go to MacFarland and on to Roosevelt, and Shepherd should go to New North (when it opens) and then Coolidge.

Adams could be used as a PK campus with priority for schools that don't offer PK3 and plenty of room for early stages and other special ed placements. I also imagine some schools WOTP will run out of room for PK4 eventually, so it could help manage that.

Do you really think removing Bancroft and Shepherd is enough to alleviate Deal?

Of course not. It's called "low-hanging fruit." The hard work is re-drawing the boundaries of Janney, Lafayette, Murch, and Hearst in order to make them smaller. Obviously those students need to go to Hardy (which will remove Hardy as an OOB feeder for Wilson).

Anyone who thinks the PYP IB program should entitle an elementary school to Deal is kidding themselves and doesn't understand how IB works. Deal is MYP IB and it's a dead end. It feeds Wilson which is AP. It was only a device to coax higher SES parents into the school, but it's middle school. Yes, IB is more prestigious than AP and takes more work (which is why Wilson hasn't done the work - it doesn't have to). Eastern HAS done the work (albeit the scores aren't great, but it is theoretically possible to get a prestigious IB diploma from Eastern).

This is part of the DCPS chess game. You win by leaving.

Yes, win by leaving, but what good does "theoretically" possible at Eastern do those of us in the catchment area? A high SES student can't in fact get a prestigious IB Diploma from Eastern, because IB Diplomas are really only as good as their pass point totals for the middle class and wealthy kids. The Eastern kids who pass (only around half who pursue IBD studies) are scraping by with totals in the 20s, mostly in the mid 20s (24-45 points is a pass). All over the country kids who clear the 40 point bar are routinely rejected by colleges admitting in the single digits.

Why aren't Deal parents making noise about no IB at Wilson? Wilson could run an integrated IBD-AP program - many high schools do that. Kids take a two-year course that prepares them well to take either exam.

My DC hates the IB program, so I won't be clamoring for it. Nonetheless, apparently Wilson is exploring IB.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

So, the DCPS profile ages are being updated, and it looks like the Wilson page added McFarland as a feeder school. Was that always the plan or have they secretly added a feeder school to the most crowded HS in the system without public input?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's possible that 8 years from now Shepherd will still feed to Deal, but considering that Deal is currently pressing 1,500 students it seems likely some schools will need to be cut from the feeding system. Shepherd is one of the more logical choices to eliminate.

MacFarland is the most logical possibility. Considering Roosevelt is right next to MacFarland, there's no way it would be Coolidge (which is good, because Coolidge might as well be jail).

So, the DCPS profile ages are being updated, and it looks like the Wilson page added McFarland as a feeder school. Was that always the plan or have they secretly added a feeder school to the most crowded HS in the system without public input?

I wonder if that's a mistake somehow? Because when you go to the McFarland DCPS page, it lists Roosevelt as its destination school.