A Day Without Women in Our Public Schools on March 8?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

+ 1. A responsible school teacher who puts the interests of the children before their own political views. Brava or Bravo, as the case may be.

You guys are off your meds right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

Such as?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

+ 1. A responsible school teacher who puts the interests of the children before their own political views. Brava or Bravo, as the case may be.

+2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

How many free house calls is your husband doing these days?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

Such as?

Teachers, nurses, home health aides, care givers etc...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

How many free house calls is your husband doing these days?

My husband has never done a free house call. I'm a teacher, and nor have I. I have no idea what your point is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

How many free house calls is your husband doing these days?

My husband has never done a free house call. I'm a teacher, and nor have I. I have no idea what your point is.

I wouldn't expect your husband to work for free. But you? You should be doing more. You've never gone above and beyond for your students? You've never stayed late to help a child in need? What a shabby teacher you must be!

Maybe you should read this...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/sheryl-sandberg-and-adam-grant-on-women-doing-office-housework.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

How many free house calls is your husband doing these days?

My husband has never done a free house call. I'm a teacher, and nor have I. I have no idea what your point is.

I wouldn't expect your husband to work for free. But you? You should be doing more. You've never gone above and beyond for your students? You've never stayed late to help a child in need? What a shabby teacher you must be!

Maybe you should read this...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/sheryl-sandberg-and-adam-grant-on-women-doing-office-housework.html

Of course I have stayed late to help a child in need. My husband has also stayed late for various reasons to ensure his patients get the best possible care. I don't know ANY professional who hasn't stayed late to get done what needs to be done. That is the reality of working in the 21st century. Why should teaching be any different?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

How many free house calls is your husband doing these days?

My husband has never done a free house call. I'm a teacher, and nor have I. I have no idea what your point is.

I wouldn't expect your husband to work for free. But you? You should be doing more. You've never gone above and beyond for your students? You've never stayed late to help a child in need? What a shabby teacher you must be!

Maybe you should read this...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/sheryl-sandberg-and-adam-grant-on-women-doing-office-housework.html

Why do teachers claim that work outside of their normal school workday is unpaid? Anyone who is paid a salary does work outside of their scheduled hours. Any professional, basically, has to do what it takes to get the job done and done well. I wouldn't think a teacher would want to be thought of as a clock puncher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

In what public sphere are men expected to pony up, because of the children? I'm ambivalent about the march, but your line of thinking encapsulates the uphill battle teacher's ( and women in the work place) face. Women, and the jobs they have traditionally occcupied have been asked to make sacrifices for the good of the community that simply aren't asked of men.
It's fine if you to think that you've accepted sacrifice as part of the job- low/stagnant pay, providing your own supplies, helping students everyday after school, being available to parents at all times, and all of the extra stuff you guys take on.
But I wouldn't expect many younger people to follow suit.
I hope that seeing all of the choices that young women have today is also a wake up call to older women, who have accepted the status quo.

NP.

My husband is a doctor and things would not be pleasant (to say the least) if the majority of doctors decided they were going to take the day off for a protest/march. Unlikely they would ever do such a thing, but I digress.

How many free house calls is your husband doing these days?

My husband has never done a free house call. I'm a teacher, and nor have I. I have no idea what your point is.

I wouldn't expect your husband to work for free. But you? You should be doing more. You've never gone above and beyond for your students? You've never stayed late to help a child in need? What a shabby teacher you must be!

Maybe you should read this...
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/opinion/sunday/sheryl-sandberg-and-adam-grant-on-women-doing-office-housework.html

Of course I have stayed late to help a child in need. My husband has also stayed late for various reasons to ensure his patients get the best possible care. I don't know ANY professional who hasn't stayed late to get done what needs to be done. That is the reality of working in the 21st century. Why should teaching be any different?

How wonderful you must feel that you get to make a difference, and so much easier since DH is really bringing home the bacon....

[Anonymous]

So if all of these women are taking off of work, presumably they will have to watch their own children. So really this is a protest to take women out of the workplace and back into the kitchen. Well thought out!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I was going to post something asking about this. I have a lot of friends in RTP - Chapel Hill/Carrboro and Wake County schools are both closing Wednesday and Durham is evaluating. Chapel Hill/Carrboro were very clear in that they support their employees, but this is not an endorsement of the protest, they just realized that their operations would be too severely impacted if they tried to open. Not sure if FCPS has their head in the sand and are going to be screwed on Wednesday, or if they're scarred by the blowback when they close for a flake of snow or the wind, or this area is less activist, or what.

Only Chapel Hill/Carrboro School District is closed on Wednesday. Neither Wake County nor Durham County Schools are closed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So if all of these women are taking off of work, presumably they will have to watch their own children. So really this is a protest to take women out of the workplace and back into the kitchen. Well thought out!

Yes, because all teachers are just Mommies, making a little on the side.