A Day Without Women in Our Public Schools on March 8?

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher, and I find public school teachers' participation in this event to be ironic. This is because public schools are probably one of the only employers that DO pay men and women the same salaries. Those salaries are publicly posted information.
Please, ladies, find a better way to channel your time and energy than this. Your absence will simply make all teachers look bad.

Compare teachers and nurses salaries to other jobs that have the same education requirement.

Teachers and nurses make less because it is seen as a job for women with men who support them.

Teachers make less $75k in Arlington because they only work Sept-June 23. They have July and August off and several paid week long breaks--spring, Xmas, etc. I don't even get Xmas eve off or wed or fri before and after thanksgiving.

They start at $47K. They make $75K with 15 years experience.

For reference, HHI of $43,568 is eligible for FARM.

And most teachers are double income households just like most everyone else. Point?

That's family of 4-not for a single individual.

Most families are a family of 4.

And most teachers are double income households just like most everyone else. Point?

And most teachers are not starting out with $47k, a husband and two kids. They're usually right out of college and single making that $47,000.

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Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher, and I find public school teachers' participation in this event to be ironic. This is because public schools are probably one of the only employers that DO pay men and women the same salaries. Those salaries are publicly posted information.
Please, ladies, find a better way to channel your time and energy than this. Your absence will simply make all teachers look bad.

Anyone can do your job. Most professionals would do a much better job, but they chose better careers. You chose to have summer off, so you don't deserve to be well compensated. You only work from 8am to 3 pm. You have all holidays off. Male teachers make less ( or the same as female teachers) because they are doing women's work. If they would nut up and find a real job, they would make more. Take the day, don't take the day. There are 1,000's of stay at Mommies that can hand out work sheets that day.
It's ridiculous to think teachers and care givers are on par with doctors and lawyers.

This may be the most arrogant post I have ever read. I was a teacher. After some years and a move because of my husband, I went into a professional office job. Longer hours. Less stress. And, sure, I missed the "summers off"--but the duty free lunch hour made up for that. And, if I had an appointment or a workman coming to the house, I could take a half day off without the need for preparing lesson plans and going back to straighten out the mess a sub had made. (Not that all subs make messes, but many do.) And, if I had a family event to attend in another city, I could go without guilt. If I needed to tend to needs in the restroom, I could get up from my desk and go any time I pleased. (Think about that. Most people don't.)

Did I miss teaching? Yes. I missed the satisfaction of knowing that I had helped kids succeed. There is nothing like comparing papers from the end of the year to those the kids did at the beginning and seeing just how far they had come. Sharing those papers with them and showing them their success was quite fulfilling.

Believe me, not "anyone" can do a teacher's job. And, no, most professionals would not do a much better job. And, no, you did not choose a "better" career--you have chosen a career that likely pays better. Teachers do deserve to be well compensated, but, it is true that they get two months off in the summer. However, they don't get to choose which two months off--the system chooses for them. Very likely, you get to take your vacation when you wish. In today's world, lots of jobs give more time off than they did long ago. I bet you may even have the option of working from home--teachers only work from home after they have spent a day at school.
And, FWIW, it sounds like that you not only resent teachers but also those "1000 stay at home Mommies" . Get a grip.

The best and the brightest don't become teachers.

Oh you poor sad dear. People become teachers for many different reasons. Some are brilliant. Some are duds. Just like in every profession.

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Wow! I can't believe how truly ignorant some people are. There would be no doctors, lawyers etc without teachers. Most teachers go into the profession for the love of teaching, not the pay, however, it is important to acknowledge and recognize how significant teachers are. The teacher in me wants to spend some time educating some of the people in this forum. The human being in me is sad that some of you are so bothered by any inconvenience that this may cause (for simply one day) that you are not seeing the big picture. I will be at work teaching tomorrow but I am so blessed to have parents who expressed their support for me if I didn't go to work AND have even offered to babysit for the parents who didn't have childcare. This is why I do what I do. In addition to supporting students academically, I teach them manners, empathy and how to be a good citizen. I am so lucky to help shape the future so that our future leaders of tomorrow will help create a world with equity for all because it's the right thing to do.

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AND....there would be no best and brightest if they were not TAUGHT by the best and brightest!!!

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Anonymous wrote:I am a public school teacher and am angry at teachers who will be taking the day off and thus closing their school. It is not because I don't support gender equality - I do, and I dislike Trump as much as anyone. But the march is very short sighted. I teach at a school where the majority of students are low-income. Their parents are not employed in positions where they can take off with such short notice. They are not in positions where they get paid time off. They are often paid hourly, and so they're either left scrambling to find childcare (a hassle, plus $$) or have to forego a day's worth of pay. Or leave their kids at home, unsupervised. None of which are good options.

It's just a really shitty position to put these parents in.

Do you get this upset about snow days? You realize there were no snow days in Alexandria this year, which is fairly unusual.

Exactly and a lot of the people above don't necessarily support your salary raise, so what better way to make them notice?

What? I am not a teacher. Just someone who finds the panic about the effect of the day without women on daycare a little odd.

How about an all men stay at home day, and we make it a no school due to professional development day and all the women run camps are closed?

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Reason that we need more male teachers!

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Funny how all the participants (limited as it is) seem to be Government workers that get paid even when they're off and can't be fired for not showing up.

APS is still running the cafeterias (mostly women, hourly) and day care (again mostly women, hourly)

...and I still don't have a clue what the point is. Are we supposed to jump up and down and yell "Hi! I see you, boy it would stink if there were no woman."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher, and I find public school teachers' participation in this event to be ironic. This is because public schools are probably one of the only employers that DO pay men and women the same salaries. Those salaries are publicly posted information.
Please, ladies, find a better way to channel your time and energy than this. Your absence will simply make all teachers look bad.

Anyone can do your job. Most professionals would do a much better job, but they chose better careers. You chose to have summer off, so you don't deserve to be well compensated. You only work from 8am to 3 pm. You have all holidays off. Male teachers make less ( or the same as female teachers) because they are doing women's work. If they would nut up and find a real job, they would make more. Take the day, don't take the day. There are 1,000's of stay at Mommies that can hand out work sheets that day.
It's ridiculous to think teachers and care givers are on par with doctors and lawyers.

This may be the most arrogant post I have ever read. I was a teacher. After some years and a move because of my husband, I went into a professional office job. Longer hours. Less stress. And, sure, I missed the "summers off"--but the duty free lunch hour made up for that. And, if I had an appointment or a workman coming to the house, I could take a half day off without the need for preparing lesson plans and going back to straighten out the mess a sub had made. (Not that all subs make messes, but many do.) And, if I had a family event to attend in another city, I could go without guilt. If I needed to tend to needs in the restroom, I could get up from my desk and go any time I pleased. (Think about that. Most people don't.)

Did I miss teaching? Yes. I missed the satisfaction of knowing that I had helped kids succeed. There is nothing like comparing papers from the end of the year to those the kids did at the beginning and seeing just how far they had come. Sharing those papers with them and showing them their success was quite fulfilling.

Believe me, not "anyone" can do a teacher's job. And, no, most professionals would not do a much better job. And, no, you did not choose a "better" career--you have chosen a career that likely pays better. Teachers do deserve to be well compensated, but, it is true that they get two months off in the summer. However, they don't get to choose which two months off--the system chooses for them. Very likely, you get to take your vacation when you wish. In today's world, lots of jobs give more time off than they did long ago. I bet you may even have the option of working from home--teachers only work from home after they have spent a day at school.
And, FWIW, it sounds like that you not only resent teachers but also those "1000 stay at home Mommies" . Get a grip.

The best and the brightest don't become teachers.

So homeschool your damn kids, Ms Best and Brightest. Today is a great day to start!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher, and I find public school teachers' participation in this event to be ironic. This is because public schools are probably one of the only employers that DO pay men and women the same salaries. Those salaries are publicly posted information.
Please, ladies, find a better way to channel your time and energy than this. Your absence will simply make all teachers look bad.

Anyone can do your job. Most professionals would do a much better job, but they chose better careers. You chose to have summer off, so you don't deserve to be well compensated. You only work from 8am to 3 pm. You have all holidays off. Male teachers make less ( or the same as female teachers) because they are doing women's work. If they would nut up and find a real job, they would make more. Take the day, don't take the day. There are 1,000's of stay at Mommies that can hand out work sheets that day.
It's ridiculous to think teachers and care givers are on par with doctors and lawyers.

This may be the most arrogant post I have ever read. I was a teacher. After some years and a move because of my husband, I went into a professional office job. Longer hours. Less stress. And, sure, I missed the "summers off"--but the duty free lunch hour made up for that. And, if I had an appointment or a workman coming to the house, I could take a half day off without the need for preparing lesson plans and going back to straighten out the mess a sub had made. (Not that all subs make messes, but many do.) And, if I had a family event to attend in another city, I could go without guilt. If I needed to tend to needs in the restroom, I could get up from my desk and go any time I pleased. (Think about that. Most people don't.)

Did I miss teaching? Yes. I missed the satisfaction of knowing that I had helped kids succeed. There is nothing like comparing papers from the end of the year to those the kids did at the beginning and seeing just how far they had come. Sharing those papers with them and showing them their success was quite fulfilling.

Believe me, not "anyone" can do a teacher's job. And, no, most professionals would not do a much better job. And, no, you did not choose a "better" career--you have chosen a career that likely pays better. Teachers do deserve to be well compensated, but, it is true that they get two months off in the summer. However, they don't get to choose which two months off--the system chooses for them. Very likely, you get to take your vacation when you wish. In today's world, lots of jobs give more time off than they did long ago. I bet you may even have the option of working from home--teachers only work from home after they have spent a day at school.
And, FWIW, it sounds like that you not only resent teachers but also those "1000 stay at home Mommies" . Get a grip.

The best and the brightest don't become teachers.

So homeschool your damn kids, Ms Best and Brightest. Today is a great day to start!

It's interesting that whenever someone points out that there are issues with teacher quality the retort is always to homeschool. Last time I checked, taxpayer dollars pay teachers so taxpayers are entitled to voice their experiences/opinions, whether or not they choose to homeschool.

[Anonymous]

Did this get cancelled? Everybody is here at work today.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Did this get cancelled? Everybody is here at work today.

Where do you work?

[Anonymous]

Well, that was one big dud.

[Anonymous]

Not for me. I spent the day planning for after-school tutoring sessions with a co-teacher, holding a parent-teacher conference, and planning some upcoming lessons, all work that I usually do from 3-7 every day. --ACPS teacher, thankful for a teacher work day today

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It seems limited to entitled Government employees trying to bite the hand that feeds them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am a teacher, and I find public school teachers' participation in this event to be ironic. This is because public schools are probably one of the only employers that DO pay men and women the same salaries. Those salaries are publicly posted information.
Please, ladies, find a better way to channel your time and energy than this. Your absence will simply make all teachers look bad.

Anyone can do your job. Most professionals would do a much better job, but they chose better careers. You chose to have summer off, so you don't deserve to be well compensated. You only work from 8am to 3 pm. You have all holidays off. Male teachers make less ( or the same as female teachers) because they are doing women's work. If they would nut up and find a real job, they would make more. Take the day, don't take the day. There are 1,000's of stay at Mommies that can hand out work sheets that day.
It's ridiculous to think teachers and care givers are on par with doctors and lawyers.

This may be the most arrogant post I have ever read. I was a teacher. After some years and a move because of my husband, I went into a professional office job. Longer hours. Less stress. And, sure, I missed the "summers off"--but the duty free lunch hour made up for that. And, if I had an appointment or a workman coming to the house, I could take a half day off without the need for preparing lesson plans and going back to straighten out the mess a sub had made. (Not that all subs make messes, but many do.) And, if I had a family event to attend in another city, I could go without guilt. If I needed to tend to needs in the restroom, I could get up from my desk and go any time I pleased. (Think about that. Most people don't.)

Did I miss teaching? Yes. I missed the satisfaction of knowing that I had helped kids succeed. There is nothing like comparing papers from the end of the year to those the kids did at the beginning and seeing just how far they had come. Sharing those papers with them and showing them their success was quite fulfilling.

Believe me, not "anyone" can do a teacher's job. And, no, most professionals would not do a much better job. And, no, you did not choose a "better" career--you have chosen a career that likely pays better. Teachers do deserve to be well compensated, but, it is true that they get two months off in the summer. However, they don't get to choose which two months off--the system chooses for them. Very likely, you get to take your vacation when you wish. In today's world, lots of jobs give more time off than they did long ago. I bet you may even have the option of working from home--teachers only work from home after they have spent a day at school.
And, FWIW, it sounds like that you not only resent teachers but also those "1000 stay at home Mommies" . Get a grip.

The best and the brightest don't become teachers.

So homeschool your damn kids, Ms Best and Brightest. Today is a great day to start!

It's interesting that whenever someone points out that there are issues with teacher quality the retort is always to homeschool. Last time I checked, taxpayer dollars pay teachers so taxpayers are entitled to voice their experiences/opinions, whether or not they choose to homeschool.

Yes but it is inherently ridiculous for you to basically say teachers are stupid yet rely on them to educate your kids.