How LONG Until Immigrants Get Welfare?
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Anonymous
Sweet Jesus! Enough of the white privilege! So glad you read a textbook in your college course so that you could enlighten us! |
Anonymous
Annual net deficit from illegals is more than $100 billion a year. Not chump change, considering how much in debt we already are. After 10 years, that amounts to more than 5% of our total national debt. Also, I note how you talk about how Rhe Unadfordable Care Act (unaffordable to those who are funding it) helped low income but hurt middle income. Why is it preferable to enable the lower class to access medical even though it means it disables access to the middle income? are poor people more noble and deserving than a middle-class person? Because Obama and the democrats picked winners and losers - as you yourself seem to recognize - making the call that it was more important that lower income people get health insurance even if the middle class have to lose theirs as a result. http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2013/05/the-fiscal-cost-of-unlawful-immigrants-and-amnesty-to-the-us-taxpayer |
Anonymous
No, you are wrong. I am the pp and hispanic as well. I know a lot of immigrants who arrived more than 30 yrs ago and many were not poor. Many of their children and parents also vote republican now (US born hispanics are more likely to vote republican). I knew many who flew over legally from south america, were from well to do families, knew a couple who were going to law school and med school here. The difference is there IS NOT a war going on in central america now where guerrillas went into homes and killed families. The migrants I know from central america are economic migrants with family that lives in el salvador, honduras, guatemala whom they send money over there to. They do try to get their younger boys out of CA because the gangs try to affiliate them. I imagine a lot also went to other central america countries to get away from crime and better opportunity but since it's easier and better economically to come to the US and they already have relatives here why woudln't they risk coming to the US? |
Anonymous
I'm not disputing that 30 yrs ago illegal immigrants were coming for purely economic reason, but today, there are less MX illegal immigrants and more from C. America, and while there is no war going on there, there is definitely a lot of violence that is affecting them. This is one of the reasons why we have seen an uptick in minor illegal immigrants coming without their parents. http://www.cfr.org/transnational-crime/central-americas-violent-northern-triangle/p37286 "Nearly 10 percent of the Northern Triangle countries’ thirty million residents have left, mostly for the United States. In 2013, as many as 2.7 million people born in El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras were living in the United States, up from an estimated 1.5 million people in 2000. Nearly one hundred thousand unaccompanied minors arrived to the United States from El Salvador, Guatemala, and Honduras between October 2013 and July 2015, drawing attention to the region’s broader emigration trend. At the United States' urging, Mexico stepped up enforcement along its southern border, apprehending 70 percent more Central Americans in 2015 than it did in the year before. Many seek asylum from violence at home: Between 2009 and 2013, the United States registered a sevenfold increase ..in asylum seekers at its southern border, 70 percent of whom came from the Northern Triangle. Neighboring Belize, Costa Rica, Mexico, Nicaragua, and Panama all registered a similar rise. Migrants from all three Northern Triangle countries cite violence, forced gang recruitment, extortion, as well as poverty and lack of opportunity, as their reasons for leaving" |
Anonymous
They are coming here for their parents or to get away from gangs. Although cant be that bad since i know many who vacation and have family they support there. Mexico is less than welcoming about letting CA people stay in mexico. Makes you wonder why. |
Anonymous
+1 plus special ed services, if needed |
Anonymous
Yes- thank you! Special ed ESOL as well - our system hired more teachers bc our immediate area received the students. This costs the system money & burdens the system. I feel sorry for many of these children, but I'm keeping it real, folks. And social adjustments can cause issues in schools, too. But when you're removed from the realities, it's easy to turn into Mother Teresa. |
Anonymous
More money, MORE MONEY, the liberal outcry. It's also the outcry of the uniformed. How much more money do you think is necessary, considering they can't properly spend for what they have? Why on earth are we spending money on things like transgender shelters for illegals while our own go in need? We OWE it to our veterans to live up to the CONTRACT we signed with them. Why do we have beds for illegals but not for veterans? I don't believe Jesus approves of taking money from people at the point of a sword. |
Anonymous
They have tried. If you haven't noticed? Obama has done a lot of promising and done nothing about it (except for change rules for women and gay individuals). |
Anonymous
Do you HONESTLY think that Hollywood will pay their fair share? Nope. |
Anonymous
I think the idea here is that if we change the tax code, even dishonest scum like Donald Trump will have to pay their fair share, whether they want to or not. |
Anonymous
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Funny, but I'm noticing a parallel between this thread and the one on whether low-income people should pay $10 to see a doctor (given that they have been provided free health insurance via great sacrifices from the middle class, who now are struggling themselves to afford medical insurance).
Liberals are arguing that the group that is worse off should be provided for, even if it makes the "better off" group worse off themselves. For example, we need to give illegals a oath to citizenship even though the majority will depend on govt assistance when we can't even afford to care for our veterans....and we should give lower-income all medical care completely free even though it has cost many middle-income people the ability to afford their own health insurance. And before the bleeding hearts jump on me, I am NOT equating low-income with illegals. It is the philosophy behind it - that the underdog should be elevated even though it harms the group just above them and effectively lowers their standard of living. This, people, is socialism. That the lower get raised and the middle gets lowered until they are both "equal." |
Anonymous
| We CAN afford to care for our veterans. |
Anonymous
Why is socialism in terms of taking care of the most vulnerable in society such a dirty word? People in some European socialist countries seem to be happier than people in our country. I am tired of my tax money going to welfare recipients who are too lazy to get a job, too. But, I also understand that there truly are people who need some help. How do we distinguish between those who are moochers and those who really need the help and are trying themselves. I read about a county in New England where they tied food stamps to volunteering (things like cleaning up the streets etc). This only applied to people who didn't have small children. Magically, the number of food stamp recipients went down. I would like to see this kind of thing implemented throughout the country. |
Anonymous
We are $20T in debt. Let's put more of our deficit spending toward veterans before we spend it on giving free stuff to illegals. Honestly, I think liberals think government money grows on trees. I bet you're not that irresponsible with your OWN money. In fact, come to think of it, the biggest cheapskates I know are Democrats - including giving NOTHING to charity - while they insist we can afford to expand entitlement programs. |