How LONG Until Immigrants Get Welfare?

[Anonymous]

“Undocumented” immigrants are here ILLEGALLY. As such, they are breaking our laws.
What don’t some of you understand about ILLEGAL?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with you, pp. But, get ready to be flamed here.
Most of the people who frequent this site seem to not care about illegal immigration.

OP. That's because the majority are liberals. Illegal immigration isn't high on their radar. But I'm concerned that when Hillary wins (probably), she will find a way to "convert" the 10 million illegals to citizenship before the mid-terms in order to win the Congress. At the same time, we are already in $20 trillion od debt, and we simply cannot afford to support the illegals and drive the debt up even further. We are on a path to failure as it is, and this will only hasten

Get ready to triple the h1b and h2b visas and to extend the F1/opt programs to 4 years

Forget about your kids finding entry level jobs ever

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undocumented youth get lots of assistance from the government.

Not the things listed above. It is illegal to distribute federal funds to these groups.

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Yup.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with you, pp. But, get ready to be flamed here.
Most of the people who frequent this site seem to not care about illegal immigration.

OP. That's because the majority are liberals. Illegal immigration isn't high on their radar. But I'm concerned that when Hillary wins (probably), she will find a way to "convert" the 10 million illegals to citizenship before the mid-terms in order to win the Congress. At the same time, we are already in $20 trillion od debt, and we simply cannot afford to support the illegals and drive the debt up even further. We are on a path to failure as it is, and this will only hasten

You mean like Reagan did?

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Anonymous wrote:How long until brown skinned people are forced to produce citizenship documents in order to buy groceries or walk on a public street?

I'd say January if Drumpf gets elected.
It's been happening in Arizona for the party two years.

Wow. Criticizing racism by demonstrating it in yourself. Way to go.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How long until brown skinned people are forced to produce citizenship documents in order to buy groceries or walk on a public street?

Please take your racism somewhere else. Thank you.

Bless your heart. You don't even know what that word means.

Not the PP, but I consider racism when you see colors when it's irrelevant to the discussion.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When Hillary gives all of them amnesty it's going to bankrupt social security and medicare and medicaid. And have a serious impact on the Pell Grant program, too.

Wait a sec, subject line is about welfare. You have to pay in to qualify for SS and Medicare. And they are way bigger than welfare spending by several orders of magnitude. So what's the problem? How is having more people pay into the largest budget items a problem?

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Anonymous wrote:Many of the illegal aliens are first helped by charities, many of which get their funding through government grants. Churches, foundations, and private groups also provide help, often with some government funding. So illegal aliens may not initially receive government assistance directly but still receive it. For example, I work with a group in Arkington which helps resettle refugees, and it is mostly government funded. We refer the refugees to an assortment of programs provided by the other entities. This is a stop gap aid until they are eligible for direct government help

OP here. That's fine. People can voluntarily donate to help them. But at what point are taxpayers required to provide the help? That's what I'm trying to figure out.

Taxpayers are forced to pay for, or endure the government using our funds to pay for, all sorts of things you or I may not like. That's how it works. Like two wars in the Middle East, for example.

True. But these are issues in which we have a vote. Trump and Clinton have two different policies. Trump is talking about what is best for current Americans, while Hillary's focus is on what is best for illegals. Of course, that's only one issue, but I do think that if Trump weren't such an idiotic buffoon, he'd win on the issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please make up your mind:

Do you hate immigrants because you think they work the low-wage jobs you wouldn't do or do you hate them because you think they don't work the low-wage jobs you wouldn't do?

You can't say they are lazy freeloaders and also say they are taking all your jobs.

Who are you talking to? Obviously, the OP feels that illegals will lean heavily on entitlement programs and linked to a study that shows the majority of immigrants do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So much ignorance.

1. Undocumented immigrants do not have access to welfare and food stamps. Never have, never will.

2. Legal immigrants have to be here for 5 years to qualify.

3. Undocumented immigrants almost all pay payroll taxes. Thus they pay to fund benefits for US citizens.

4. Almost every economist who has looked at this has concluded that immigrants are a net plus to the US economy and the treasury.

5. Since 2009, the number of undocumented immigrants from Mexico has decreased.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

Hold on. What do you mean they have to pay payroll taxes? I thought it was against the law to hire illegals in the first place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much ignorance.

1. Undocumented immigrants do not have access to welfare and food stamps. Never have, never will.

2. Legal immigrants have to be here for 5 years to qualify.

3. Undocumented immigrants almost all pay payroll taxes. Thus they pay to fund benefits for US citizens.

4. Almost every economist who has looked at this has concluded that immigrants are a net plus to the US economy and the treasury.

5. Since 2009, the number of undocumented immigrants from Mexico has decreased.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

Hold on. What do you mean they have to pay payroll taxes? I thought it was against the law to hire illegals in the first place.

If employers believe or pretend to believe that they are legal, they withhold taxes for a phony Social Security number

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please make up your mind:

Do you hate immigrants because you think they work the low-wage jobs you wouldn't do or do you hate them because you think they don't work the low-wage jobs you wouldn't do?

You can't say they are lazy freeloaders and also say they are taking all your jobs.

Who are you talking to? Obviously, the OP feels that illegals will lean heavily on entitlement programs and linked to a study that shows the majority of immigrants do.

But most threads and complaints about them are claiming they are taking too many jobs. This thread is full of misconceptions. They don't get cash benefits. Their kids do get to go to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So much ignorance.

1. Undocumented immigrants do not have access to welfare and food stamps. Never have, never will.

2. Legal immigrants have to be here for 5 years to qualify.

3. Undocumented immigrants almost all pay payroll taxes. Thus they pay to fund benefits for US citizens.

4. Almost every economist who has looked at this has concluded that immigrants are a net plus to the US economy and the treasury.

5. Since 2009, the number of undocumented immigrants from Mexico has decreased.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

Hold on. What do you mean they have to pay payroll taxes? I thought it was against the law to hire illegals in the first place.

Well then we need to crack down on the employers who are ignoring the law. They're obviously doing it for the cheap labor, and costing an American a job.
If employers believe or pretend to believe that they are legal, they withhold taxes for a phony Social Security number

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Undocumented youth get lots of assistance from the government.

It's immediate. Once you're in the school system, services have kicked in - free/reduced meals, medical assistance (especially if the school nurse detects an issue), wrap around services, etc.

Schools have become social programs. People who don't live in areas with low-performing schools don't realize this, however, as the high-flying schools don't usually absorb these new arrivals.

The impacts are felt via school division budgets, operating funds, transfers for debt payments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Please make up your mind:

Do you hate immigrants because you think they work the low-wage jobs you wouldn't do or do you hate them because you think they don't work the low-wage jobs you wouldn't do?

You can't say they are lazy freeloaders and also say they are taking all your jobs.

Who are you talking to? Obviously, the OP feels that illegals will lean heavily on entitlement programs and linked to a study that shows the majority of immigrants do.

But most threads and complaints about them are claiming they are taking too many jobs. This thread is full of misconceptions. They don't get cash benefits. Their kids do get to go to school.

I'm the OP. I know they don't get cash benefits NOW. My question was how long will they have to wait after Hillary allows them to be citizens to start getting onto the various entitlement programs. (Again, I am talking about ILLEGALS.)