Nuns on a beach in France but burkinis are banned

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Anonymous wrote:A government that forbids you from wearing a burkini is as bad as a government that demands that you wear one.

+1 I've been saying the same thing. NO govt should tell a civilian person what to wear.


Could a "western" woman wear a bikini in Saudi Arabia? is there a double standard?


Saudi Arabia is an islamic republic and makes no claim to respect human beings, their choices or rights. France does make the claim that they respect human beings, human choice and human liberty. Saudis don't claim any respect for human liberty so its not a double standard, if you follow? If the French say- The Uk is a nominally Christian country- so it is actually ok for the government in the UK to say- hey you all- we are an Anglican country, everyone has to adhere to anglican norms. I mean if the french want to be secular in the same way that the USSR was secular- with only one state sanctioned religion (Russian Orthodoxy) and no other faith permitted, that is their choice but it should be apparent, clear and legislated, not arbitrarily enforced.


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A government that forbids you from wearing a burkini is as bad as a government that demands that you wear one.

+1 I've been saying the same thing. NO govt should tell a civilian person what to wear.


Could a "western" woman wear a bikini in Saudi Arabia? is there a double standard?


Saudi Arabia is an islamic republic and makes no claim to respect human beings, their choices or rights. France does make the claim that they respect human beings, human choice and human liberty. Saudis don't claim any respect for human liberty so its not a double standard, if you follow? If the French say- The Uk is a nominally Christian country- so it is actually ok for the government in the UK to say- hey you all- we are an Anglican country, everyone has to adhere to anglican norms. I mean if the french want to be secular in the same way that the USSR was secular- with only one state sanctioned religion (Russian Orthodoxy) and no other faith permitted, that is their choice but it should be apparent, clear and legislated, not arbitrarily enforced.




This is pretty simplistic. Do you think Saudi Arabia as a country would say: "No, we do not respect human beings"?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


ROFL you liberals wanted it, you got it. Vote for HRC and you'll get loads more. This election isn't about electing a smart and experienced person for POTUS, it's about retaining our way of life. Period.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


Different crew than the Muslims I grew up with... except for some guys in college [here to study engineering]. Now I know so many Persians who don't use the word Iran.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:A government that forbids you from wearing a burkini is as bad as a government that demands that you wear one.


Totally agree. I don't wear a hijab but when I swim I wear shorts and a t-shirt -- out of modesty (non-religious) and for fear of sunburn. Why the hell should the government be able to tell me to wear less clothing when I swim? Insane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A government that forbids you from wearing a burkini is as bad as a government that demands that you wear one.


Totally agree. I don't wear a hijab but when I swim I wear shorts and a t-shirt -- out of modesty (non-religious) and for fear of sunburn. Why the hell should the government be able to tell me to wear less clothing when I swim? Insane.


I doubt keeping away burkinis was the true intent of the law.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


ROFL you liberals wanted it, you got it. Vote for HRC and you'll get loads more. This election isn't about electing a smart and experienced person for POTUS, it's about retaining our way of life. Period.


I'm pretty sure nobody wants your pitiful paranoid, hateful and obsessive way of life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


I'm quite sure you invited the comments based on your attitude.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


What are the nasty comments? This sounds incredulous.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.


If an ME man bothers you just tell him his mother was a sharmoota and go about your business. These fellows need to learn no one here is going to take their garbage.

*another reason I am happy not to live in VA*
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.



I have an idea why don't we strap you to table at Starbucks in baileys crossroads and let you spend a day with these assholes. Better yet, let's move the. To your house where you can serve them?
ROFL you liberals wanted it, you got it. Vote for HRC and you'll get loads more. This election isn't about electing a smart and experienced person for POTUS, it's about retaining our way of life. Period.


I'm pretty sure nobody wants your pitiful paranoid, hateful and obsessive way of life.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What does it matter that there is a double standard? Should the western world follow what the Muslim world does where it pertains to forcing women to wear, nor not wear certain garments?


No, we shouldn't. I for one do not like walking out of a Panera bread in Springfield with my young daughters and having a man "shoo" us away from the outside tables because his harm of burkas are eating outside with him and his other friends. Scared the crap out of my daughter and her friends, this is not the Middle East and I could care less about their repressive culture.


similar situation happened to me at a different place. I stared him down, though. I will not be intimidated into changing anything I do in my day to day life. This is my worry. They leave oppressive countries and bring their crap here. No thank you.


The Starbucks in the Burlington Coat Factory shopping center in Bailey's Crossroads has been taken over by Middle Eastern men who monopolize the tables both inside and outside. It is very uncomfortable even walking by them because of their nasty comments.



I have an idea why don't we strap you to table at Starbucks in baileys crossroads and let you spend a day with these assholes. Better yet, let's move the. To your house where you can serve them?
ROFL you liberals wanted it, you got it. Vote for HRC and you'll get loads more. This election isn't about electing a smart and experienced person for POTUS, it's about retaining our way of life. Period.


I'm pretty sure nobody wants your pitiful paranoid, hateful and obsessive way of life.


Why not try a different Starbucks, or avoid their awful, expensive coffee altogether. But I guess you'd have to find another imaginary threat to your "way of life" other than livin' what passes for the vida loca in Bailey's Crossroads. You should try yoga and Xanax.
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Anonymous wrote:Dont think they made her strip. If she is that religous to wear a loose head to toe bathing suit she would have left instead of taking off a layer of it. As a woman i seriously dont understand how a woman could be forced to wear attire in the name of a religon that favors men. The only distinction from american male and femal abusive relationships where men tell a woman to cover herself and not dress like a slut is that it is not religous like this womans choice for wearing this suit. Christian women arent frced to wear habits to the beach because its in their religion that none other but their man should look at their hair and skin. Also id be more worried about the child sex abuse by the economic migrants at the french camps than this irrelevant story

The Amish and some other ultra conservative Christian groups in the US make their women wear those ugly dresses.


Both men and women in those religions/culture dont wear manufactured clothing like jeans but muslim men can wear jeans? Also amish women are free to leave that culture and wont get beheaded for it.

Did they spin their own cotton? No, then it's manufactured. From what I have seen, those "Christian" men seem to wear whatever they want.

Do you seriously think there are no women who have left the Muslim faith in France? You do know there are non Muslims living in the Middle East?

There are extremists in every religion. Christianity and Muslims are no different in that regard. There are Muslim women who choose to stay in their religion of their own free will, believe it or not.


Well, yes, it is hard to believe.
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