FCPS Petition to School Board to respect all student rights

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Anonymous wrote:The people leaving their names seek to overlap with the pearl clutchers who speak at these meetings so I guess they aren't embarassed to be bigots.

They really should be ashamed, as some of their fellow sympathizers in bashing LGBT students are on other websites threatening School Board members with physical violence. Thought they might like to know that when they put their names on these petitions they are associating with criminal thugs. I'll be checking to see which ones are arrested first.

Holy crap, are you serious? These people are batshit.

Not as crazy as the transanity group. I'm still sure who's more mentally ill - the transgenders or the supporters who insist they are not mentally ill?

I'm leaning toward the transanity supporters as more mentally ill.

Be that as it may, I don't see supporters of LGBT rights threatening School Board members and inciting others to commit physical violence against them, which is happening today on Fairfax Underground. If I were some of those SB members, I would be asking the criminal authorities to get the IP addresses of those posters and to file charges against them. This is outrageous.

+1. Especially after Kathy Smith got roughed up last year. What is the matter with people who can't solve problems without turning into schoolyard bullies?

Wasn't Kathy Smith's attacker from the same political party and belief system who was pissed off because her kids had to attend two different high schools? It wasn't a conservative and it had nothing to do with sex ed or transgendered students.

PP who mentioned Kathy Snith, and that wasn't the point of the Kathy Smith comment. The point was that it takes a special breed of idiot to beat up or threaten to beat/ shoot up school board members. And that after what happened to Smith, SB members were probably taking threats a lot more seriously. No worries-- I'm sure there are liberal idiots, as well as conservative ones.

[Anonymous]

OP, if you are really concerned about a genetic male being in the locker room of your DDs, have you ever talked to anyone like a principal or counselor about how they would handle that?

My understanding is that the trans child has to live as the other gender for 2 yrs before the school will consider them as the other gender. And even then, the school admins have no interest in making every genetic girl uncomfortable in the girls' locker room. Why don't you ask and get the info. before you assume the worst?

As for bathrooms, there are stalls in the girls' bathrooms... what do you think is going to happen? Any trans child is not interested in drawing more attention to him/herself. They just want to pee in safety! Again, ask the principal or counselor. You will find out that it's not as simple as a teen boy just deciding to prank the girls by pretending to be trans for a day and getting into the girls' bathrooms. It's much more involved than that.

Can you imagine having your own child afraid of being beaten up just b/c he/she has to pee? That's what life is like for a trans kid and parents. No one is going to attack your genetic girl using the girls' room. No one is going to be peaking at her. Really.

HAve a conversation about how this all is managed before you force trans kids into a dangerous situation.

[Anonymous]

Someone posted the finalized regulation to be approved by the school board on 7/14 on Fairfax Underground (Link). The same document is also available on FCPS Pride webpage (Link). I suggest that you take a look at that regulation.

According to this document, there is no such requirement for the transgender child to live as the other gender for 2 yrs. The school will affirm their gender identity immediately and organize a support team for them. The trans child's assertion of the gender identification does not even have to be written, and the parental confirmation is optional.

[Anonymous]

I talked to my SB member. Her comment was the guideline is in line with federal guidelines. They shall ignore the petition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I talked to my SB member. Her comment was the guideline is in line with federal guidelines. They shall ignore the petition.

Good!!!

[Anonymous]

Well it says right in that link that they need to be asserting their identity consistently and uniformly. Aka if you think some straight rapist who cares about rules is going to use this to get in the girls locker room, he will need to be acting like a woman all day every day in class first.

[Anonymous]

Thank you OP for posting the link here! I've signed and I agree with the petition completely. It was very well written and it has the common sense that the school board is completely lacking nowadays.

It is not about the potential rapist issue like the other poster mentioned. Rather, it is about protecting the level of privacy that the kids from various background need. The non-discrimination policy protects transgender kids, as well as these other kids from different national origins or religious background.

Policy 1450:
No student, employee, or applicant for employment in the Fairfax County Public Schools shall, on the basis of age, race, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, national origin, marital status, or disability, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity, as required by law.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you OP for posting the link here! I've signed and I agree with the petition completely. It was very well written and it has the common sense that the school board is completely lacking nowadays.

It is not about the potential rapist issue like the other poster mentioned. Rather, it is about protecting the level of privacy that the kids from various background need. The non-discrimination policy protects transgender kids, as well as these other kids from different national origins or religious background.

Policy 1450:
No student, employee, or applicant for employment in the Fairfax County Public Schools shall, on the basis of age, race, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, national origin, marital status, or disability, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity, as required by law.

Whatever else one thinks about this petition, it is not well written. The conservatives who start these petitions invariably sound like they have a 10th-grade education at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you OP for posting the link here! I've signed and I agree with the petition completely. It was very well written and it has the common sense that the school board is completely lacking nowadays.

It is not about the potential rapist issue like the other poster mentioned. Rather, it is about protecting the level of privacy that the kids from various background need. The non-discrimination policy protects transgender kids, as well as these other kids from different national origins or religious background.

Policy 1450:
No student, employee, or applicant for employment in the Fairfax County Public Schools shall, on the basis of age, race, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, national origin, marital status, or disability, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity, as required by law.

Eh, wrong. Locker rooms are awkward for everyone. Your snowflake can go to the principals office to change.

[Anonymous]

So, it was considered as discrimination to let the Gloucester county transgender teen to use a separate bathroom, while it is not discrimination to force a student with cultural or religious requirement to use a separate bathroom?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So, it was considered as discrimination to let the Gloucester county transgender teen to use a separate bathroom, while it is not discrimination to force a student with cultural or religious requirement to use a separate bathroom?

It is considered discrimination because the transgender child had no choice. The second student has a choice to use either bathroom.

[Anonymous]

Policy 1450:
No student, employee, or applicant for employment in the Fairfax County Public Schools shall, on the basis of age, race, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, national origin, marital status, or disability, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity, as required by law

So, then, this will affect girls' sports. Not likely to impact boys' sports very much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So, it was considered as discrimination to let the Gloucester county transgender teen to use a separate bathroom, while it is not discrimination to force a student with cultural or religious requirement to use a separate bathroom?

It is considered discrimination because the transgender child had no choice. The second student has a choice to use either bathroom.

No, the second student has no choice but to use separate bathroom as well. Their cultural or religious mandate prohibit them to use mix-sex changing room or bathroom.

[Anonymous]

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Policy 1450:
No student, employee, or applicant for employment in the Fairfax County Public Schools shall, on the basis of age, race, color, sex, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, national origin, marital status, or disability, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity, as required by law

So, then, this will affect girls' sports. Not likely to impact boys' sports very much.

Very much so. You can't use a different definition of sex in Title I and Title IX. That would be discriminatory.

[Anonymous]

So, then, this will affect girls' sports. Not likely to impact boys' sports very much.


Very much so. You can't use a different definition of sex in Title I and Title IX. That would be discriminatory.

Just imagine how many Olympics Caitlyn could have won if Bruce had competed as Caitlyn...........