4 people dead after gunman opens fire on military recruitment office in TN

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Members of the military should be allowed to carry concealed personal weapons if they have a valid gun license, including in DC - period. They should be allowed to do this to protect themselves and their families from ongoing, stated threats by Isis.


I agree.

Or be issued a weapon when they check in on post. Or have the officers and NCOs carry when on duty. Or certain commanders and first shirts carry.
Anonymous
Somehow I don't think opiate of the masses fits here . . .

or does it?

ahh - blind faith - a true gift from God



Anonymous wrote:His other blog post:

A Prison Called Dunya

Imagine that you are taken by force and placed in a prison. Once in the prison you realize that the living arrangements in this prison really aren’t that bad. There is a sun room, a TV to watch, computer to use, phone, different kinds of food, and even a section for exercise. After spending a couple weeks in the prison you get used to it and develop a routine. You still aren’t sure why you are in prison, or how long you will be there, but you are comfortable in your life. At this time one of the guards enters with a large folder that he hands you. You open the folder and read its instructions, stating that you will be spending the next couple years in this prison, and at the end of this term you will be given a test at a random time. It could be in 2 years or it could be in 4. The instructions state that passing this exam will result in you being released to the city of your choice and your living expenses will be paid as well as an allowance. Failing will lead to your transfer to another prison cell, one that has no windows or accessories except a hole in the ground for you to relieve yourself, and your meals will be the same oats and water day after day until you die.

A study guide for the test is included in the folder, and you are left alone. Put yourself in this position. What would you do?

I would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide and stay patient with their studies, only giving time for the other things around to keep themselves focused on passing the exam. They would do this because they know and have been told that they will be rewarded with pleasures that they have never seen.

Anyone who chooses to indulge in the activities around them and spend part or none of their time studying would surely live the rest of their life in remorse.

Allah (SWT) says in the quran (Surat Al-Hadid Verse 20):

????????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ???????? ????????? ??????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???????????? ?????????????? ? ???????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????? ???????????? ????? ??????? ??????????? ? ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ??????????

Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children – like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the tillers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion.

Rasulullah (SAW) says in the following Sahih (Authentic) hadith:

???? ????? ?????????? ????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ?????????? ?????? ??????????? ????????? ??????????

2956 ???? ???? ?????? ????????? ??????????????

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the unbeliever.”

Source: Sahih Muslim 2956

Subhnallah, this life we are living is nothing more than a test of our faith and patience. It was designed to separate the inhabitants of Paradise from the inhabitants of Hellfire, and to rank amongst them the best of the best and worst of the worst. Don’t let the society we live in deviate you from the task at hand. Take your study guide, the Quran and Sunnah, with strength and faith, and be firm as you live your short life in this prison called Dunya. Allah (SWT) says live for this life and the hereafter according to their length. Rasulullah says the life on this world compared to the hereafter is like a drop compared to an ocean.

Brothers and sisters don’t be fooled by your desires, this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by. Take his word as your light and code and do not let other prisoners, whether they are so called “Scholars” or even your family members, divert you from the truth. If you make the intention to follow allahs way 100 % and put your desires to the side, allah will guide you to what is right.

?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ????

? “? ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??????”? ?(??(????? ????????)??)??.?

Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Prophet (?) said, “Allah says: ‘ When a slave of Mine draws near to Me a span, I draw near to him a cubit; and if he draws near to Me a cubit, I draw near to him a fathom. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.”‘.

[Al-Bukhari].

We ask Allah to be pleased with us, reward us with Janna, and we seek refuge from his anger and the punishment of the Fire.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:From what the guy wrote on his blog, he was unhappy and wanted to end his life and move on to Paradise. In his blog he sounded like a true believe. The only sure way to go to paradise, and skip over the trial of the grave, is to be killed in Jihad, which is what he probably thought he was doing.



I don't know that much about Islam, and your statement is probably oversimplifying. But your statement makes him sound like an entitled guy who wants to go to the head of the line without putting in his dues -- suicide by jihad instead of living a good life.


Well, in Islam, death in Jihad gets you straight to Jannah and it's guaranteed. You also skip over the trial of the grave. In Islam, if you lead a good life, you still have to go through the trials/fire of the grave and you will be judged by Allah, and if he finds you lacking, you do not get into Jannat, you go to hell.

Thus, the only guaranteed way to Jannah in Islam is death in Jihad.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Somehow I don't think opiate of the masses fits here . . .

or does it?

ahh - blind faith - a true gift from God



Anonymous wrote:His other blog post:

A Prison Called Dunya

Imagine that you are taken by force and placed in a prison. Once in the prison you realize that the living arrangements in this prison really aren’t that bad. There is a sun room, a TV to watch, computer to use, phone, different kinds of food, and even a section for exercise. After spending a couple weeks in the prison you get used to it and develop a routine. You still aren’t sure why you are in prison, or how long you will be there, but you are comfortable in your life. At this time one of the guards enters with a large folder that he hands you. You open the folder and read its instructions, stating that you will be spending the next couple years in this prison, and at the end of this term you will be given a test at a random time. It could be in 2 years or it could be in 4. The instructions state that passing this exam will result in you being released to the city of your choice and your living expenses will be paid as well as an allowance. Failing will lead to your transfer to another prison cell, one that has no windows or accessories except a hole in the ground for you to relieve yourself, and your meals will be the same oats and water day after day until you die.

A study guide for the test is included in the folder, and you are left alone. Put yourself in this position. What would you do?

I would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide and stay patient with their studies, only giving time for the other things around to keep themselves focused on passing the exam. They would do this because they know and have been told that they will be rewarded with pleasures that they have never seen.

Anyone who chooses to indulge in the activities around them and spend part or none of their time studying would surely live the rest of their life in remorse.

Allah (SWT) says in the quran (Surat Al-Hadid Verse 20):

????????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ???????? ????????? ??????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???????????? ?????????????? ? ???????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????? ???????????? ????? ??????? ??????????? ? ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ??????????

Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children – like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the tillers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion.

Rasulullah (SAW) says in the following Sahih (Authentic) hadith:

???? ????? ?????????? ????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ?????????? ?????? ??????????? ????????? ??????????

2956 ???? ???? ?????? ????????? ??????????????

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the unbeliever.”

Source: Sahih Muslim 2956

Subhnallah, this life we are living is nothing more than a test of our faith and patience. It was designed to separate the inhabitants of Paradise from the inhabitants of Hellfire, and to rank amongst them the best of the best and worst of the worst. Don’t let the society we live in deviate you from the task at hand. Take your study guide, the Quran and Sunnah, with strength and faith, and be firm as you live your short life in this prison called Dunya. Allah (SWT) says live for this life and the hereafter according to their length. Rasulullah says the life on this world compared to the hereafter is like a drop compared to an ocean.

Brothers and sisters don’t be fooled by your desires, this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by. Take his word as your light and code and do not let other prisoners, whether they are so called “Scholars” or even your family members, divert you from the truth. If you make the intention to follow allahs way 100 % and put your desires to the side, allah will guide you to what is right.

?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ????

? “? ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??????”? ?(??(????? ????????)??)??.?

Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Prophet (?) said, “Allah says: ‘ When a slave of Mine draws near to Me a span, I draw near to him a cubit; and if he draws near to Me a cubit, I draw near to him a fathom. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.”‘.

[Al-Bukhari].

We ask Allah to be pleased with us, reward us with Janna, and we seek refuge from his anger and the punishment of the Fire.


Thank you for letting us know you are a Marxist.

Now please go away until you have something meaningful to contribute to this discussion of the massacre of 4 innocent Marines in Tennessee.

Everyone else: please keep these brave Marines and their families in your prayers and thoughts during this difficult time; and pray for a speedy recovery of the police officer shot in the ankle yesterday.
Anonymous
I don’t think it is a coincidence that both he and the head Boston bomber practiced the head-punching arts.

Multiple blows to the head decrease impulse control. A normal person might be pissed off about the United States’ middle east policy, but somebody who has taken dozens of punches to the brain would be more likely to lash out in incredibly stupid ways like this.
jsteele
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a coincidence that both he and the head Boston bomber practiced the head-punching arts.

Multiple blows to the head decrease impulse control. A normal person might be pissed off about the United States’ middle east policy, but somebody who has taken dozens of punches to the brain would be more likely to lash out in incredibly stupid ways like this.


I made the same argument regarding Tamerlan Tsarnaev and everyone thought that I had taken a few blows to the head.
Anonymous
“Go on, get out! Last words are for fools who haven't said enough!”

- Karl Marx



Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Somehow I don't think opiate of the masses fits here . . .

or does it?

ahh - blind faith - a true gift from God



Anonymous wrote:His other blog post:

A Prison Called Dunya

Imagine that you are taken by force and placed in a prison. Once in the prison you realize that the living arrangements in this prison really aren’t that bad. There is a sun room, a TV to watch, computer to use, phone, different kinds of food, and even a section for exercise. After spending a couple weeks in the prison you get used to it and develop a routine. You still aren’t sure why you are in prison, or how long you will be there, but you are comfortable in your life. At this time one of the guards enters with a large folder that he hands you. You open the folder and read its instructions, stating that you will be spending the next couple years in this prison, and at the end of this term you will be given a test at a random time. It could be in 2 years or it could be in 4. The instructions state that passing this exam will result in you being released to the city of your choice and your living expenses will be paid as well as an allowance. Failing will lead to your transfer to another prison cell, one that has no windows or accessories except a hole in the ground for you to relieve yourself, and your meals will be the same oats and water day after day until you die.

A study guide for the test is included in the folder, and you are left alone. Put yourself in this position. What would you do?

I would imagine that any sane person would devote their time to mastering the information on the study guide and stay patient with their studies, only giving time for the other things around to keep themselves focused on passing the exam. They would do this because they know and have been told that they will be rewarded with pleasures that they have never seen.

Anyone who chooses to indulge in the activities around them and spend part or none of their time studying would surely live the rest of their life in remorse.

Allah (SWT) says in the quran (Surat Al-Hadid Verse 20):

????????? ???????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ???????? ????????? ??????????? ?????????? ??????????? ??? ???????????? ?????????????? ? ???????? ?????? ???????? ??????????? ????????? ????? ??????? ????????? ?????????? ????? ??????? ???????? ? ????? ?????????? ??????? ??????? ???????????? ????? ??????? ??????????? ? ????? ?????????? ?????????? ?????? ??????? ??????????

Know that the life of this world is but amusement and diversion and adornment and boasting to one another and competition in increase of wealth and children – like the example of a rain whose [resulting] plant growth pleases the tillers; then it dries and you see it turned yellow; then it becomes [scattered] debris. And in the Hereafter is severe punishment and forgiveness from Allah and approval. And what is the worldly life except the enjoyment of delusion.

Rasulullah (SAW) says in the following Sahih (Authentic) hadith:

???? ????? ?????????? ????? ????? ??????? ??????? ??? ???? ???? ????? ?????????? ?????? ??????????? ????????? ??????????

2956 ???? ???? ?????? ????????? ??????????????

Abu Huraira reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The world is a prison for the believer and a paradise for the unbeliever.”

Source: Sahih Muslim 2956

Subhnallah, this life we are living is nothing more than a test of our faith and patience. It was designed to separate the inhabitants of Paradise from the inhabitants of Hellfire, and to rank amongst them the best of the best and worst of the worst. Don’t let the society we live in deviate you from the task at hand. Take your study guide, the Quran and Sunnah, with strength and faith, and be firm as you live your short life in this prison called Dunya. Allah (SWT) says live for this life and the hereafter according to their length. Rasulullah says the life on this world compared to the hereafter is like a drop compared to an ocean.

Brothers and sisters don’t be fooled by your desires, this life is short and bitter and the opportunity to submit to allah may pass you by. Take his word as your light and code and do not let other prisoners, whether they are so called “Scholars” or even your family members, divert you from the truth. If you make the intention to follow allahs way 100 % and put your desires to the side, allah will guide you to what is right.

?????? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?? ????? ??? ???? ???? ???? ???? ????? ?? ??? ?? ??? ????

? “? ??? ???? ????? ??? ????? ????? ???? ??????? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ????? ??? ?????? ???? ????? ???? ????? ??????”? ?(??(????? ????????)??)??.?

Anas (May Allah be pleased with him) reported:

The Prophet (?) said, “Allah says: ‘ When a slave of Mine draws near to Me a span, I draw near to him a cubit; and if he draws near to Me a cubit, I draw near to him a fathom. And if he comes to Me walking, I go to him running.”‘.

[Al-Bukhari].

We ask Allah to be pleased with us, reward us with Janna, and we seek refuge from his anger and the punishment of the Fire.


Thank you for letting us know you are a Marxist.

Now please go away until you have something meaningful to contribute to this discussion of the massacre of 4 innocent Marines in Tennessee.

Everyone else: please keep these brave Marines and their families in your prayers and thoughts during this difficult time; and pray for a speedy recovery of the police officer shot in the ankle yesterday.
Anonymous
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t think it is a coincidence that both he and the head Boston bomber practiced the head-punching arts.

Multiple blows to the head decrease impulse control. A normal person might be pissed off about the United States’ middle east policy, but somebody who has taken dozens of punches to the brain would be more likely to lash out in incredibly stupid ways like this.


I made the same argument regarding Tamerlan Tsarnaev and everyone thought that I had taken a few blows to the head.


While I am not convinced that blows to the head were a significant factor, I agree that - from the initial reports - there seem to be parallels to the Tsarniev brothers case:

-all three terrorists seemed to have been well liked by classmates, who all voiced shock that the people they knew had turned to violent jihad;

-all three had the benefit of a western education and seemed to do fine academically;

-all three do not seem to have always been devout or come from overly devout families - which suggests fairly recent "radicalization"

As a guess, I would bet that the investigation of this terrorists computer will reveal increasing interest in online radical sites (even though he apparently did not post his own views beyond 2 kind of vague blog posts).

Perhaps this area needs to be a greater focus for DHS and other authorities to stop radicalization from happening.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I just love the cookie cutter conclusions people come to about perpetrators based on their profiles...

Muslim and/or Arab = terrorist
Latino = gang member
Black = street thug

If the description of the suspect fits any of the above with regard to race or religion then the corresponding conclusion about their motivation is an indisputable fact that cannot be argued. The only instances in which it is okay to withhold judgement about someone and wait until all the facts come out is when they are . . .

You know what I'm going to say right?
Lol - yeah. Crazy isn't it? And amusingly enough that's usually the conclusion people come to with regard to those perpetrators, "Oh he was just crazy."
Thank goodness folks didn't buy into that bullshit with James Holmes.

I'm done - y'all can get back to arguing about beards.




+100...you hit the nail on the head with this post. Unfortunately, there will be people who fail to seriously consider the merits of your post.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love the cookie cutter conclusions people come to about perpetrators based on their profiles...

Muslim and/or Arab = terrorist
Latino = gang member
Black = street thug

If the description of the suspect fits any of the above with regard to race or religion then the corresponding conclusion about their motivation is an indisputable fact that cannot be argued. The only instances in which it is okay to withhold judgement about someone and wait until all the facts come out is when they are . . .

You know what I'm going to say right?
Lol - yeah. Crazy isn't it? And amusingly enough that's usually the conclusion people come to with regard to those perpetrators, "Oh he was just crazy."
Thank goodness folks didn't buy into that bullshit with James Holmes.

I'm done - y'all can get back to arguing about beards.


You forgot White = Mental Illness


Only mentally ill whites commit crimes. Everyone knows that whites are a peaceful people-always have been. White people created law and order for the world. If you read the history books, you will learn that the world was in chaos and darkness, prior to white people creating order through the Hammurabi Code, 10 commandments, Magna Carta, US constitution, etc. No sane white person would ever commit a crime.
Anonymous
The terrorist seems to have travelled not only to Jordan (not that controversial; their king is an ally of ours and pro-western) but also to:

Yemen.

That is an entirely different matter (not just because there is a war going on there). The attack on the USS Cole happened there and it's a hotbed of terrorism.

Seems like another parallel to the Boston case, but again, it's early in the investigation.
Anonymous
Military member are allowed to defend us, but not themselves. There is a stated threat against them and their families. No more 'gun free' work zones. Those that have gun permits should be allowed to carry concealed personal weapon off duty, if they wish. This has happened twice at recruiting centers. When does it move into other realms? They protect us. Let them protect themselves. Surely if anyone is trained to responsibly carry a weapon, they are.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Military member are allowed to defend us, but not themselves. There is a stated threat against them and their families. No more 'gun free' work zones. Those that have gun permits should be allowed to carry concealed personal weapon off duty, if they wish. This has happened twice at recruiting centers. When does it move into other realms? They protect us. Let them protect themselves. Surely if anyone is trained to responsibly carry a weapon, they are.


+1000
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I just love the cookie cutter conclusions people come to about perpetrators based on their profiles...

Muslim and/or Arab = terrorist
Latino = gang member
Black = street thug

If the description of the suspect fits any of the above with regard to race or religion then the corresponding conclusion about their motivation is an indisputable fact that cannot be argued. The only instances in which it is okay to withhold judgement about someone and wait until all the facts come out is when they are . . .

You know what I'm going to say right?
Lol - yeah. Crazy isn't it? And amusingly enough that's usually the conclusion people come to with regard to those perpetrators, "Oh he was just crazy."
Thank goodness folks didn't buy into that bullshit with James Holmes.

I'm done - y'all can get back to arguing about beards.


You forgot White = Mental Illness


Only mentally ill whites commit crimes. Everyone knows that whites are a peaceful people-always have been. White people created law and order for the world. If you read the history books, you will learn that the world was in chaos and darkness, prior to white people creating order through the Hammurabi Code, 10 commandments, Magna Carta, US constitution, etc. No sane white person would ever commit a crime.


Exceptional sarcasm!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So this is domestic terrorism but Charleston was not???
Wow!


Domestic? No. Terrorism by a Muslim foreigner against our US military, just as ISIS asked for? Yes.


He is an American citizen with no known ties to ISIS.


Who's father is on the terror watch list. Who was not born here. Who shot up a military facility, just like ISIS suggested.

Sorry for the disappointing outcome. Perhaps you should work as hard to ban Muslim symbols here as you do American?

You may still display the confederate flag on your car or home. It has not been banned. It has simply been removed from many government buildings - where it should not have been flown.
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