My new playgroup drinks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:you can mask your guilt with any excuses, drunk moms...

it's a bad example.

your children are growing up in US and here drinking is taking very seriously by the authorities.

this excuse of your background or ridding the cab back home won't make the judge think you're a nice mom.

WTF? I know civil liberties have been eroded, but "the authorities" are going to break into your home and arrest you because you had a martini in the afternoon? A judge will pass judgement on whether or not you are a nice mom?

It sounds like you are suffering from paranoia. Either you are on too many drugs, or too few, but certainly the wrong amount.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:" Ahhhh, I love the defense of the Italian/Irish family...b/c your background REALLY changes how your body metabolizes alcohol...argh. That is the oldest one in the book. Where are my Polish folks? Russians? Come on, defend your drinking!!! Your grandparents punted themselves off of their carts, you can too! You can HANDLE it b/c you are a O'Malley? Jesus..."

Um, I didnt' say b/c I was Irish/Italian that I metabolized alcohol faster or that I could handle alcohol better than anyone else. I'm using my experience as an example. My particular family had -while growing up- many who were fresh off the boat. They stuck closely to their traditions in some ways. For ex, all funerals on the Irish side ended with shots of Irish whisky and a toast among the adults. The Italian side had wine with most meals. We, children, were present to witness this -apparently in some folks' view- abomination. It was No. Big. Deal.

My circumstances exposed me to alcohol growing up and I lived to have a healthy attitude toward it. I can enjoy a glass of wine w/o finishing off the bottle. Yes, even in front of the children. They won't be scarred.

Second PP, don't go there. The first PP is a moron - a puritan, I'd say. I grew up the same way - full-blooded Italian in my case. What the puritans don't understand is just how damaging it can be to hide alcohol from their kids. Drinking a glass of wine or a martini isn't sending a message to your children that you're a sloppy alcoholic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:" Ahhhh, I love the defense of the Italian/Irish family...b/c your background REALLY changes how your body metabolizes alcohol...argh. That is the oldest one in the book. Where are my Polish folks? Russians? Come on, defend your drinking!!! Your grandparents punted themselves off of their carts, you can too! You can HANDLE it b/c you are a O'Malley? Jesus..."

Um, I didnt' say b/c I was Irish/Italian that I metabolized alcohol faster or that I could handle alcohol better than anyone else. I'm using my experience as an example. My particular family had -while growing up- many who were fresh off the boat. They stuck closely to their traditions in some ways. For ex, all funerals on the Irish side ended with shots of Irish whisky and a toast among the adults. The Italian side had wine with most meals. We, children, were present to witness this -apparently in some folks' view- abomination. It was No. Big. Deal.

My circumstances exposed me to alcohol growing up and I lived to have a healthy attitude toward it. I can enjoy a glass of wine w/o finishing off the bottle. Yes, even in front of the children. They won't be scarred.

Second PP, don't go there. The first PP is a moron - a puritan, I'd say. I grew up the same way - full-blooded Italian in my case. What the puritans don't understand is just how damaging it can be to hide alcohol from their kids. Drinking a glass of wine or a martini isn't sending a message to your children that you're a sloppy alcoholic.

it's a nice way to teach children that alcohol is good to drown their frustration, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you can mask your guilt with any excuses, drunk moms...

it's a bad example.

your children are growing up in US and here drinking is taking very seriously by the authorities.

this excuse of your background or ridding the cab back home won't make the judge think you're a nice mom.

WTF? I know civil liberties have been eroded, but "the authorities" are going to break into your home and arrest you because you had a martini in the afternoon? A judge will pass judgment on whether or not you are a nice mom?

It sounds like you are suffering from paranoia. Either you are on too many drugs, or too few, but certainly the wrong amount.

even me, with my half-english can notice that you can barely spell.
see? alcohol is not good for you.

the judge will take the kids away when Child's service break into your house because someone called the police saying you're drunk when you were supposed to be watching your children.
this is not what nice moms do, did you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:you can mask your guilt with any excuses, drunk moms...

it's a bad example.

your children are growing up in US and here drinking is taking very seriously by the authorities.

this excuse of your background or ridding the cab back home won't make the judge think you're a nice mom.

WTF? I know civil liberties have been eroded, but "the authorities" are going to break into your home and arrest you because you had a martini in the afternoon? A judge will pass judgment on whether or not you are a nice mom?

It sounds like you are suffering from paranoia. Either you are on too many drugs, or too few, but certainly the wrong amount.

even me, with my half-english can notice that you can barely spell.
see? alcohol is not good for you.

the judge will take the kids away when Child's service break into your house because someone called the police saying you're drunk when you were supposed to be watching your children.
this is not what nice moms do, did you know?

Huh? That's the correct way to spell judgment.

[Anonymous]

you can mask your guilt with any excuses, drunk moms...

it's a bad example.

your children are growing up in US and here drinking is taking very seriously by the authorities.

this excuse of your background or ridding the cab back home won't make the judge think you're a nice mom.

LOL! Ladies, take heed. Playgroup drinking is taking[sic] very seriously by the authorities. You don't want to have to explain yourself to the judge, now do you?

[Anonymous]

at least in my dictionary...

[Anonymous]

"taken", sorry....

[Anonymous]

I just wanted to thank you all for such an entertaining thread. It's a perfect accompaniment to my glass of wine, as I wait for my husband and son to return home.

Cheers!

[Anonymous]

Reading this makes me realize I need a drink. I hope Childs' serive doesn't show up because I am not a nice mom.

[Anonymous]

All I can saw is 'wow.' I just read the first couple pages of this post and then a few pages inbetween. It makes me so glad to be part of a religion that doesn't allow drinking at all.

Why must alcohol be used to have fun? If you have to get yourself buzzed to feel good, something is wrong. Being around friendly people should make you feel buzzed or happy enough.

When one poster said it wasn't 'normal' to drink at playdates she likely meant it wasn't the responsible thing to do, not that it wasn't the typical behavior. Although I would venture to guess most playgroups don't involve drinking moms.

And is it the responsible thing to do? Probably not when you are driving afterwards and driving children. But people do it all the time and will do anything to justify it because they don't want to feel bad about their actions. And thats why we have dead people on our roads every night. It is because some people thought they could handle just one drink, or maybe two drinks...or okay, maybe just three drinks..because it was over x amount of hours.

We are trying to teach our young children the message played over and over again on our tv's and that is: "Don't Drink and Drive." Yet if parents do it again and again in front of their children, what message are you sending them?

By 16, they're going to start drinking at a party they go to, that doesn't have adult supervision, and they're going to drink and drive. Heck, why not, they saw mom doing it from an early age. But at 15 they will definitely not know when to stop drinking and when it's not okay to get behind the wheel. Just as their mom made her judgment call they'll figure they can make the same judgment call for themselves. Because as you know, teenagers think they are invincible and just as smart as a responsible adult, their parent.

God help each mom who gets behind the wheel after drinking with her children in the back seat. And God help all the other people on the road around her.

[Anonymous]

PP, you have it entirely backwards. The kids who had parents who drank responsibly will be familiar with alchohol when they encounter it in high school. Kids of teetotaling parents like you will treat is as forbidden fruit and are more likely to go overboard.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PP, you have it entirely backwards. The kids who had parents who drank responsibly will be familiar with alchohol when they encounter it in high school. Kids of teetotaling parents like you will treat is as forbidden fruit and are more likely to go overboard.

only if the kids of the drunk moms survive to see teenager years, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I can saw is 'wow.' I just read the first couple pages of this post and then a few pages inbetween. It makes me so glad to be part of a religion that doesn't allow drinking at all.

Why must alcohol be used to have fun? If you have to get yourself buzzed to feel good, something is wrong. Being around friendly people should make you feel buzzed or happy enough.

so true. because all Muslims, Methodists etc seem so happy, don't they?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All I can saw is 'wow.' I just read the first couple pages of this post and then a few pages inbetween. It makes me so glad to be part of a religion that doesn't allow drinking at all.

Why must alcohol be used to have fun? If you have to get yourself buzzed to feel good, something is wrong. Being around friendly people should make you feel buzzed or happy enough.

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The buzzed feeling is nice for a lot of people, but it's not necessary. And I know a lot of people who hate it. I love one glass of wine with dinner on Friday nights. For the taste, honestly. Nothing is as good as a good cab. If I've eaten a big meal with it, I don't get buzzed. But there's a huge difference in "atmosphere" and taste between drinking cabernet with dinner vs. a Diet Coke.