Where to find non-immature single men in their 30s?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:THEREFORE: there are higher than ever numbers of woman in their 20's who are uninterested in marriage/not getting married.

they are marrying with less frequency and at higher ages, with dc being the highest marital age of all -

thereby increasing the pool of non marrying, sexually available, dating women in their 20's to probably their highest levels ever.

OP, don't let that discourage you. There are plenty of adorable, intelligent men of all heights and age levels out there. Here's my suggestion: say "Yes" to all sorts of men (various heights, weights, demographics and credentials) for dates in which you actually talk and see if you're compatible -- not hookups -- for relationships. Guys who are just looking to hook up will marry elsewhere. Guys here for short runs (2-4 year career assignments) are unlikely to work out.

Most of all, don't act easy, needy or desperate. Emotionally available and mature men are looking for similar women. All relationships don't lead to marriage or lifelong marriages, either. You have got to get know whether you'll be happy together. That takes time and it's risky emotionally, so if you bring a laundry list of superficial requirements to the table, you'll go through a laundry list of superficial men.

Think about it. What qualities do you want in a life mate? In the future father of your children? That's what you should be looking for because 6-pack abs may not last forever, many men go grey or bald, and even for men who keep their hair and waistlines, sexual attraction tends to wane after a few years. Find a guy who makes you laugh, someone you can trust, someone you think you could stand to go to a DCPS Open House with -- he's the guy you should marry.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has the highest number of women vs men with 112 per 100 according to the census bureau.

There is just no refuting the fact there are many more available women here who are open to relationships that expand beyond the traditional marriage model including short term dating, open relationships, fuck buddies, etc.

It also explains why DC is a buyer's market for men.

This is a myth that's been perpetuated since 1942. The truth is that there are many men are as interested in relationships as women out there. OP just has to find one right for her. She may in fact find several compatible men if she just looks around a bit.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC has the highest number of women vs men with 112 per 100 according to the census bureau.

There is just no refuting the fact there are many more available women here who are open to relationships that expand beyond the traditional marriage model including short term dating, open relationships, fuck buddies, etc.

It also explains why DC is a buyer's market for men.

This is a myth that's been perpetuated since 1942. The truth is that there are many men are as interested in relationships as women out there. OP just has to find one right for her. She may in fact find several compatible men if she just looks around a bit.

How is the census data a myth?

And lets not forget of those 100 men, many more of them than in other jurisdictions are gay - as DC has one of the highest rates of male homosexuality in the country on a per capita basis.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just go on facebook and find the guys in college that you put in the friendzone for being too boring. They'll probably fulfill your criterion now.

Lol this

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't rule out the guys who are very athletic - those are great guys to date if you have an active life yourself and don't mind a little time to yourself while they're out training. I would kill to meet someone who takes good care of himself and trains for races. (I work out daily and race a few times a year.) I think it's great when people have healthy hobbies, and it takes discipline to be a good runner or cyclist or triathlete. They're not all complete health nuts, either - a lot of us are perfectly happy to go out and have a nice meal and some wine or beer, or sleep in when we're not in training.

How bout sports leagues, i do soccer, volleyball, basketball, stuff like that. That work for ya ( in a guy)?

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Anonymous wrote:1. If you want a partner and think bars aren't a good way to meet a partner, then stop spending so much time in bars.

2. Your "stable" and "upper-middle class background" filters will filter out many men. Why should it be immediately disqualifying if you meet a senior associate/junior partner type whose dad was a laborer?


3. I'm also wondering if you're pretty much looking for a "four sixes" sort of guys: double six figure salary, 6' tall, 6-pack abs, and 6" down there. If so, you're entitled to your preferences, BUT get in line and you'd better bring your A-Game looks and personality wise.

You might as well just look for a unicorn. Even just taking the first two into account, youre at like 5% of men.

WTF? 6 feet tall and six figure salary is a "unicorn"? Then there are a lot of unicorns in DC. Do you work at a law firm, OP? If not, go to one. Every BigLaw lawyer in town makes a six-figure salary. Many (most?) are men. Many of them are 6 feet tall. Few probably have 6 pack abcs, but plenty of them are in great shape (in their 30s). Done.

Apparently reading comprehension is not your strong suit. I said all four would be a unicorn. How many men who dont get paid to work out have a sixpack? Lol

Even 6' takes out 85% of men (though if you lower it to 5'10 you get half of men). Im an attorney, and especially biglaw men are not really a tall or athletic group on average.

[Anonymous]

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The average male height in this town is 5'7". If that.

What?

Perhaps shes hanging around a lot of illegal immigrants?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DC has the highest number of women vs men with 112 per 100 according to the census bureau.

There is just no refuting the fact there are many more available women here who are open to relationships that expand beyond the traditional marriage model including short term dating, open relationships, fuck buddies, etc.

It also explains why DC is a buyer's market for men.

You have to understand that ratio is skewed by ghetto blacks, many men in jail or dead (not a bigot, just facts). Among white professionals, different story. Every bar is a sausage fest.

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Anonymous wrote:Theres nothing wrong with wanting a hardworking guy from a similar background. Im a upper middle class professional and i would like a girl from a similar background. Now OP didnt tell us about her more shallow requirements. Height, income, etc. Your height requirement should be no more than 4 inches above your height, unless you are 5'2 or lower.

Do you have a social network? Do your friends try to hook you up?

You must not live in DC. Op is 5'7". Four inches above her height would be 5'11". The average male height in this town is 5'7". If that. Most women in this town who are 5'7", and I am one of them, r willing today guys who r their height or an inch or two taller. I once dated a guy who is 5'10" and thought I'd hit the jackpot.

I am not in DC, but i am in NYC, where women have simular complaints. Its just not accurate. Im 5'10 and im no better than average here. If youre mostly hanging around white professionals, the average is 5'10 to 6'. Maybe you wear heels and you forget about that when analyzing heights.

Btw im a 5'10 guy who loves women 5'6 to 5'8 or so. This makes me kind of an outlier among my friends. And if shes athletic too, oh yeah...

You are probably not 5'10. Most men think they are taller than they are, especially if they are under 6'.

Ive been measured

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Theres nothing wrong with wanting a hardworking guy from a similar background. Im a upper middle class professional and i would like a girl from a similar background. Now OP didnt tell us about her more shallow requirements. Height, income, etc. Your height requirement should be no more than 4 inches above your height, unless you are 5'2 or lower.

Do you have a social network? Do your friends try to hook you up?

You must not live in DC. Op is 5'7". Four inches above her height would be 5'11". The average male height in this town is 5'7". If that. Most women in this town who are 5'7", and I am one of them, r willing today guys who r their height or an inch or two taller. I once dated a guy who is 5'10" and thought I'd hit the jackpot.

I am not in DC, but i am in NYC, where women have simular complaints. Its just not accurate. Im 5'10 and im no better than average here. If youre mostly hanging around white professionals, the average is 5'10 to 6'. Maybe you wear heels and you forget about that when analyzing heights.

Btw im a 5'10 guy who loves women 5'6 to 5'8 or so. This makes me kind of an outlier among my friends. And if shes athletic too, oh yeah...

You are probably not 5'10. Most men think they are taller than they are, especially if they are under 6'.

Ive been measured

height is number one lie men tell online.

[Anonymous]

I don't wear heels. Professional men in NYC are shorter than say Chicago, but they are still taller than in DC. More MBAs in NYC vs law degrees in DC (men who go to law school seem to be shorter than MBAs).

Most of the white professional men in DC are well under 5'10. Lots of guys in the 5.6 to 5.9 zone. As someone who is five seven or eight, I am fine with dating guys 5.7 or taller.

I would love to know the ratio of white, professional single men to women in DC. Or just college educated, regardless of race.

Match has way more women than men in this category in this area.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC has the highest number of women vs men with 112 per 100 according to the census bureau.

There is just no refuting the fact there are many more available women here who are open to relationships that expand beyond the traditional marriage model including short term dating, open relationships, fuck buddies, etc.

It also explains why DC is a buyer's market for men.

This is a myth that's been perpetuated since 1942. The truth is that there are many men are as interested in relationships as women out there. OP just has to find one right for her. She may in fact find several compatible men if she just looks around a bit.

How is the census data a myth?

And lets not forget of those 100 men, many more of them than in other jurisdictions are gay - as DC has one of the highest rates of male homosexuality in the country on a per capita basis.

You're bending over backwards to discourage OP, but as a Native Washingtonian, I can reassure OP that there are many, many wonderful heterosexual men out there looking for relationships. As for the census data, put a link where your keyboard is. As for gay men, DC has a high population, true, but that doesn't diminish the ability of straight women to find straight men because even the most ambitious estimates show that gay men represent 1/10 of men in general. Let OP look among the other nine. No need to inject homophobia in any form into this discussion.

[Anonymous]

Think about what type of career your "mature" man would have. I have a successful career and a 6 figure income. In my late 20s all I met were men who worked too much to be interesting (finance, law, etc.) or spent so much time being interesting I wasn't sure they would ever understand and respect my career - barristas, artists, a professional skateboarder.

At 29 I met my husband as he was finishing his PhD in engineering. He'll never make more than me, but he makes decent income at a job he finds fulfilling and he has enough time to take care of 60-70% of our home stuff - cooking, cleaning, making social plans. I think I hit the jackpot. A bonus is that a lot of people he knew in dual PhD couples were already married and a few had kids - so he was ready to settle down.

[Anonymous]

I love how people love to point out that a lot of men in DC are gay, and seem to ignore the fact that a similar % of women are lesbians.

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