Any Jack & Jill members here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP -- it depends on if you can afford it..Jack and Jill ain't cheap...
if you plan on being involved...can take up time
if you like the folks in the chapter you would be joining...if the folks are about doing things ...and have good activities...trips, workshops, little kid activities...
especially in light of the cost of belonging..
I don't belong but one of my BF's belongs in a NOVA chapter and her chapter is very active...she usually invites me to the events she sponsors...girls night at her house...pumpkin carving, kennedy ctr play...i am not fond of the people in her chapter...but...they do have good activities...even did a cruise..look at it as networking for kids..

PP, I have to ask. Why do you use ellipses instead of periods? This is an honest question. If you wrote in full sentences, with periods and capital letters, you would sound more intelligent and your writing would be much easier to understand. You would also be less recognizable from post to post.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP -- it depends on if you can afford it..Jack and Jill ain't cheap...
if you plan on being involved...can take up time
if you like the folks in the chapter you would be joining...if the folks are about doing things ...and have good activities...trips, workshops, little kid activities...
especially in light of the cost of belonging..
I don't belong but one of my BF's belongs in a NOVA chapter and her chapter is very active...she usually invites me to the events she sponsors...girls night at her house...pumpkin carving, kennedy ctr play...i am not fond of the people in her chapter...but...they do have good activities...even did a cruise..look at it as networking for kids..

PP, I have to ask. Why do you use ellipses instead of periods? This is an honest question. If you wrote in full sentences, with periods and capital letters, you would sound more intelligent and your writing would be much easier to understand. You would also be less recognizable from post to post.

Just skip my posts if you are allergic to ellipses...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

But if PG county parents are putting their kids elite NW private schools than that means they do actually have deep pockets, correct? What area is rife with J&J legacy members...DC? All those people moved to Prince Georges County, MD and Montgomery DECADES ago. The only area that has J&J legacies in upper 16th street. Prince Georges County has those same neighborhoods in the same income bracket, there are just 100x more of them located in the County. In fact Prince Georges County has 2 Different Jack & Jill chapters because of the demand. What does Foreclosures that happened in the last 5 years have to do with a county that has had black wealth since the mid 90's LOL

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is Jack & Jill?

An organization for elite, well education, rich light-skinned Black folks that historically discriminated against those of the darker persuasion.

most black folks in jack & jill that i know are brown to dark skinned

Key word = historically; notwithstanding the current color scheme, J&J isn't an organization that works for my family. I think there are tons of benefits for Black children but for me, the historical admittance policies (paper bag test) will never sit well with me.

Exactly. I'm dark-skinned and can't reconcile joining an organization that discriminated against its own people. Pass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

SNAP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

SNAP

But the women who created MOCHA MOMS is a Resident of Prince Georges Count,y Cheli English-Figaro, Esq. and is a member of Prince Georges County Jack & Jill chapter she graduated from Yale University and Columbia Law School...please post your credentials

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

But if PG county parents are putting their kids elite NW private schools than that means they do actually have deep pockets, correct? What area is rife with J&J legacy members...DC? All those people moved to Prince Georges County, MD and Montgomery DECADES ago. The only area that has J&J legacies in upper 16th street. Prince Georges County has those same neighborhoods in the same income bracket, there are just 100x more of them located in the County. In fact Prince Georges County has 2 Different Jack & Jill chapters because of the demand. What does Foreclosures that happened in the last 5 years have to do with a county that has had black wealth since the mid 90's LOL

This is an old thread, but I just came across it. I am a member of the DC J&J Chapter. Our Chapter members are mostly legacy members (at least 60%). There is a huge demand for spots in DC's Chapter, but not many spots open up (plus, membership intake is every other year--at most). There is only one DC Chapter, so that only adds to its exclusivity.

[Anonymous]

This thread is freaking fascinating. I'm reading, gathering up a lot of info. I wonder if my I would fit in with Mocha Moms? Are they accepting to middle class SAHMs?

[Anonymous]

Do you have to be a mocha mom, or is it enough to have mocha children?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP -- it depends on if you can afford it..Jack and Jill ain't cheap...
if you plan on being involved...can take up time
if you like the folks in the chapter you would be joining...if the folks are about doing things ...and have good activities...trips, workshops, little kid activities...
especially in light of the cost of belonging..
I don't belong but one of my BF's belongs in a NOVA chapter and her chapter is very active...she usually invites me to the events she sponsors...girls night at her house...pumpkin carving, kennedy ctr play...i am not fond of the people in her chapter...but...they do have good activities...even did a cruise..look at it as networking for kids..

PP, I have to ask. Why do you use ellipses instead of periods? This is an honest question. If you wrote in full sentences, with periods and capital letters, you would sound more intelligent and your writing would be much easier to understand. You would also be less recognizable from post to post.

Just skip my posts if you are allergic to ellipses...

It's really obnoxious, though. (I'm not the PP.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.

Really? A good number of people in the PG County Chapter of J&J schlep their kids to upper NW privates. None of the houses in that county have retained pre-bubble value, highest percentage of short sales and foreclosures in the metro DC area. I also see more MD tags at DC public and charter schools than should be allowed. My statement may be a generalization but it certainly isn't stupid. You [or your family members] may be the exception but PG (or Prince Georges as the new money calls it) County is not rife with legacy J&J members.

Wow! I know several millionaires in the PG County chapter. I know lots of doctors and lawyers in the PG chapter. What the hell are you talking about. I also know a lot of legacy J&J members who might have the pedigree, but are broke as shit. You clearly don't know the serious wealth in PG - and I mean serious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

Are government workers undesirable? Wow.

My problem with groups like this is that black people fought hard to end segregation, yet decide to be in segregated organizations. The same with black colleges. I understand the purpose that these institutions play(ed) for black people, but really for how long we need to keep segregating ourselves?

You clearly did not attend an HBCU. It is the last institution of tradition that we have. As an AA woman who grew up in Howard County, my HBCU was a life saver. When I attended law school, of 48 AA students, only 4 of us passed the first time. 3 from HBCUs. The confidence that I gained was second to none, which has led to a very successful career. I hope my children attend HBCUs. I would like them to be in a nurturing environment where they don't have to worry about a fraternity singing racist songs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is freaking fascinating. I'm reading, gathering up a lot of info. I wonder if my I would fit in with Mocha Moms? Are they accepting to middle class SAHMs?

You should go to the website and contact someone. I have a relative that was a leader when her kids were younger. She's a snooty one but hopefully she isn't the norm.