Any Jack & Jill members here?

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Can anyone tell me about St. Luke's Episcopal on 15th St. NW?

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me about St. Luke's Episcopal on 15th St. NW?

No

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Anonymous wrote:Can anyone tell me about St. Luke's Episcopal on 15th St. NW?

I attended one service there. My take away is that its demo is urban diverse. It's okay just not for my family.

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Anonymous wrote:Years ago, my best friend wanted to join but was told no, because she was biracial. I remember how upset her parents were. This was in the late 50s.

This is how ugly rumors get started. My biracial DC is currently in a J&J chapter now, and our family has had absolutely no problems. There are several other biracial children in my chapter as well.

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Anonymous wrote:Years ago, my best friend wanted to join but was told no, because she was biracial. I remember how upset her parents were. This was in the late 50s.

This is how ugly rumors get started. My biracial DC is currently in a J&J chapter now, and our family has had absolutely no problems. There are several other biracial children in my chapter as well.

+1

Thank you!

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Anonymous wrote:J&J was founded by Blacks that wanted to be exclusionary and were themselves excluded from DAR and the such.

Guessing nobody sponsored you.

This is the elitist attitude that is pervasive in the organization. FWIW, I am Black, two DC's in private (full freight), high HHI, etc... but this is the attitude we get from white people who look down on us and assume they know who we are. I don't need this from a group of Black people who's only "leg up" on me is that they are from a generation of well educated, well off, elite upper crust of Black society. Like a PP, I am first generation law school, self made and will not be getting anything from my broke parents' "estate". I've also never been approached about sponsorship and it is not something that I would seek out. I think J&J is a good organization for people who have a history and want to continue that legacy for their children; wanting your children to socialize with people of the same ilk is something other races/ethnicities have been doing for years. My own personal issue with J&J is that historically I would not have been someone invited to join and now that my family's pedigree may be aligned with other members, I don't feel the need to belong to a specific organization so my children can meet/mate with the Oak Bluffs crowd.

Most of the people I know from J&J aren't interested in genuinely befriending my family anyway.

I love you so very much!!! I could have written this entire paragraph.

I absolutely agree 100% and adore the writers of this thread! Wish this was not an anonymous forum because you sound like the kind of people that I would want to befriend!!

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Anonymous wrote:They may be UMC/UC but not one of them is truely wealthy and never will be.

What? Please clarify?

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Anonymous wrote:They may be UMC/UC but not one of them is truely wealthy and never will be.

????

Anybody can become rich only a few are wealthy. Oprah is rich, the Rothschields are wealthy.

And, you are?

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Anonymous wrote:Listen, it would be great for your kids. I used to be a member. I am no longer a member. It's a really great network for your kids. Remember, while the parents can get caught up in the Joneses, this org is really for the kids. Your kids should have many different networks of friends. This is just one more. I didn't think it was that expensive. It's fine.

I did not like Mocha Moms. Way too granola for me. It also depends on the chapter. I used to be a member of Montgomery County's chapter. It was ok. DC does a lot more for high school aged kids. You get to hear about many different programs and scholarships.

I don't know anything about the NOVA chapters. Moms will definitely make you feel welcome. The ONLY time I've seen animosity, is in divorce situations. When a new wife tries to come to things, the other moms GIVE HER HOLY HELL!

I have sons. They just didn't really like Jack and Jill, but it depends on the kids.

I hated Mocha Moms too!

One of the PG chapters was more friendly than another chapter I tried (don't remember). I haven't heard good things about the DC chapter.

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Different strokes for different folks. I have several friends who have left their Jack & Jill membership because of drama with the members and lame activities that they had to drag their kids to. On the other hand I know moms who loved Mocha Moms and made good friends. I think a lot of it depends on what chapter it is and the vibe of that group. I have steered clear of both. Seems much more organic to make mommy friends through natural intersections like my kids schools and sports than these outlets that charge a big price for admission.

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Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

Probably the remnants of the historic class structure among Blacks. That'd be my guess.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

Are government workers undesirable? Wow.

My problem with groups like this is that black people fought hard to end segregation, yet decide to be in segregated organizations. The same with black colleges. I understand the purpose that these institutions play(ed) for black people, but really for how long we need to keep segregating ourselves?

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Anonymous wrote:Question - why would someone from PG County need to join J&J? Your ENTIRE county is black, so your children do not need the benefit of J&J (activities with other black children, etc.) because they would be getting that everyday at their predominantly black schools. I think this just shows that membership is perceived to be a badge of honor for those blacks who think they've made it as opposed to an organization that connects black families to activities that they can do together.

The county may be majority Black but a small percentage of those people have the pedigree that is desirable for J&J. Government workers, first generation college (think Strayer, online degrees, kids aren't going to college, etc...). This may be a sweeping generalization of the county but the true "J&J types" of PG County are few and far between. That county isn't considered the 9th ward of DC for nothing... a lot of people feel that it is extension of Ward 8.

It's nice that you recognize the stupidity of your statement.