How do you discipline or punish your 18 YO?

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Anonymous wrote:Grounded for a day or two, no phone or screen time until job done. Required sit down meeting to explain why it wasn’t done.

HAHAHA

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If you truly believe your child magically becomes a fully formed, fully mature adult at 12:01 a.m. on their 18th birthday — and from that second on you’re no longer responsible — then you honestly should not have had kids.

That’s not strength. That’s not “raising them right.” That’s checking out.

The law calling someone 18 an adult is a legal convenience. It’s not a maturity switch. It’s not brain development. It’s not emotional readiness. It’s a number. Laws change. Human development doesn’t suddenly accelerate because a calendar flips.

I have kids who are 20, 22, and 26. Only my 26-year-old is truly an adult in the full sense — emotionally, financially, decision-making wise. My younger two? Absolutely not. And that’s normal. They’re still growing. Still learning. Still developing judgment. That doesn’t stop at 18.

If you think 18 equals “fully grown adult,” that’s based on a false and honestly sad notion that society keeps pushing — that kids should act grown at 13, be independent at 16, and be completely self-sufficient at 18. That’s unrealistic and unfair.

Let’s be real.

Would you want an 18-year-old high school principal?Would you want an 18-year-old surgeon operating on you?Would you want an 18-year-old judge deciding your case?Would you want an 18-year-old CEO running your company?Would you want an 18-year-old as your boss evaluating your career?Would you want an 18-year-old in charge of national security?

Exactly.

If 18 truly meant “fully mature adult,” the answer wouldn’t be an obvious no.

Adulthood is a process. It’s gradual. It’s earned through experience. It does not magically appear with a birthday cake

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Anonymous wrote:My kids like money and the stuff I provide them. Also I can see my 18 yo’s grades.

You exerting control over your 18 year old through money doesn't make them any less of a legal adult. They can choose to leave tomorrow and you'd have zero control.

True. And if they choose to leave tomorrow because they don’t want to follow my rules, then that’s a poor choice. I hope I raised them to make better choices but I can’t stop them if they want to make them. And I won’t try.

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Why did this thread devolved into a weird legal debate?




OP, you should first check if your child is under the weather or stressed out, and needs more rest. Maybe they have low-key inattentive ADHD and tend to forget less-preferred chores, but they won't get better with punishment since it's a neurotransmitter problem - unfortunately they will need more reminders (one of my kids is like this). I wouldn't automatically give a punishment, that's a rather autocratic way to parent.

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.

at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.

Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.

18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.

What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.

I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.

It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.

Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.

Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.

There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.

But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.

Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.

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I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.

The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?

What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.

If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.

It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.

Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.

I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.

Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?

You're an idiot.

You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.

That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.

You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.

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Anonymous wrote:If you truly believe your child magically becomes a fully formed, fully mature adult at 12:01 a.m. on their 18th birthday — and from that second on you’re no longer responsible — then you honestly should not have had kids.

That’s not strength. That’s not “raising them right.” That’s checking out.

The law calling someone 18 an adult is a legal convenience. It’s not a maturity switch. It’s not brain development. It’s not emotional readiness. It’s a number. Laws change. Human development doesn’t suddenly accelerate because a calendar flips.

I have kids who are 20, 22, and 26. Only my 26-year-old is truly an adult in the full sense — emotionally, financially, decision-making wise. My younger two? Absolutely not. And that’s normal. They’re still growing. Still learning. Still developing judgment. That doesn’t stop at 18.

If you think 18 equals “fully grown adult,” that’s based on a false and honestly sad notion that society keeps pushing — that kids should act grown at 13, be independent at 16, and be completely self-sufficient at 18. That’s unrealistic and unfair.

Let’s be real.

Would you want an 18-year-old high school principal?Would you want an 18-year-old surgeon operating on you?Would you want an 18-year-old judge deciding your case?Would you want an 18-year-old CEO running your company?Would you want an 18-year-old as your boss evaluating your career?Would you want an 18-year-old in charge of national security?

Exactly.

If 18 truly meant “fully mature adult,” the answer wouldn’t be an obvious no.

Adulthood is a process. It’s gradual. It’s earned through experience. It does not magically appear with a birthday cake

It sure as hell doesn't start by still taking their phone away at 18 as a form of punishment. Only in this country do people treat 18-year-olds as toddlers. Our brains are developed enough at 18 to be able to do a great deal of things. Just because you decided to baby your child into perpetuity, doesn't mean he is not capable of being an adult at 18 or 19 or 20. Our brains are not that different from those of 500-600 years ago and there were plenty of 16 year old kings. Hell, people had families by 18 they were fuly responsible for. Now, all of a sudden, they still need mommy to wipe their ass at 25.

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.

at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.

Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.

18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.

What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.

I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.

It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.

Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.

Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.

There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.

But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.

Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.

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I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.

The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?

What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.

If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.

It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.

Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.

I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.

Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?

You're an idiot.

You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.

That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.

You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.

You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.

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Anonymous wrote:I expect my high schoolers to chip in with chores whether they are 18 by senior year or not. Call it punishment or call it taking away privileges that I pay for, but kids should be expected to chip in.

Yes, and I also realize that they are human and slip up. Which is likely the case here. Give him a chance to fix it before you assume the worst FFS.

I'm beginning to see why so many of your families constantly fight.

We actually don't have an issue with my teen boys. I am just chiming in on what I would do, if teen children were not holding up their end of their bargain. If it's a one-time slip and DD/DS mentions it and does it later, then fine. But when there are multiple slip-ups, then I don't bat an eye taking away privileges.

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.

at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.

Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.

18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.

What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.

I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.

It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.

Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.

Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.

There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.

But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.

Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.

"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.

The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?

What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.

If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.

It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.

Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.

I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.

Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?

You're an idiot.

You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.

That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.

You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.

You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.

You haven’t shown me any evidence.

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.

at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.

Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.

18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.

What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.

I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.

It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.

Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.

Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.

There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.

But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.

Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.

"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.

The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?

What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.

If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.

It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.

Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.

I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.

Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?

You're an idiot.

You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.

That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.

You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.

You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.

You haven’t shown me any evidence.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age

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Anonymous wrote:Haha there are so many teens off school today and flooding this thread.
Kids, go shovel

lol

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.

at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.

Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.

18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.

What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.

I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.

It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.

Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.

Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.

There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.

But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.

Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.

"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.

The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?

What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.

If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.

It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.

Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.

I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.

Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?

You're an idiot.

You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.

That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.

You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.

You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.

You haven’t shown me any evidence.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age

Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.

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Anonymous wrote:Take phone or car away for x amount of days.

at 18?????

Ridiculous. He shovels when he gets home. Case closed.

Ridiculous, how?

18 is a teen child.

18 is not a child. 18 is an adult who can sign legal contracts, be drafted, and vote. You treating him like a 10 year old doesn't change that.

What they are legally and emotionally are not one and the same.
We don’t just give up on them when they’re 18. They’re part of a family and should help out.
I would make him do it after school if it still needs doing.

I didn't say he shouldn't help you FFS. Everyone who lives in the household should help out. I specifically said several times he should do it after school. However, if you're still taking his phone away as punishment at 18, you've completely failed as a parent. That's who I was responding to.

It isn’t. Just cause my kid is magically an “adult”, that doesn’t mean I’ll stop taking their phone away.

Well I never said you're not a shitty parent.

Well, then all DCUM parents might be shitty parents, because their so involved in their 18 year olds college application process.

There is a difference in providing guidance and advice and treating your 18 year old like a 10 year old by taking his phone away.

But you’ll take your 17 year olds phone away? Taking a phone away isn’t treating them like a 10 year old, it’s treating them like the teen child, that they are. The phone isn’t payed by them either.

Stop trying to put words in my mouth. I never said I would take it away from a 17 year old either. Just face the fact that you've been a shitty, ineffective parent if you are resorting to this tactic at 17 or 18. They are ADULTS!!!! Start treating them like adults.

Okay, atleast your consistent right. But no, 17 and 18 year olds are literal children, not adults. My god.

"you're"

I don't know how many times I need to say this. 18 year olds are adults. If he broke the law, he would be treated as an adult in the legal system because that's what he is. But sure, mommy, take his phone away. That will teach him.

The law is BS. Do you think everything about the law is 100% correct 100% of the time?

What difference does that make? My opinion of the law does not change it one iota.

If the law is your only justification as to why teenage high school children are adults, that should speak for itself.

It's not my justification. It's a fact. Again, you seem to be struggling with basic facts.

I also said several times that parenting your 18 year old adult the same way you parent your 10 year old is completely ridiculous and ineffective, and if you're still using the same tactics at 18 that you did at 10 you failed. A logical person knows this already.

Fact based off of what? From where? I really feel sorry for your children. Your being contradictory right now by saying that you need to parent your 18 year old adult. It isn’t ineffective to take your teen child’s phone way, it works best.

I can't decide if you're really this dumb or just pretending to be. 18 year olds are adults in the eyes of the law. THAT IS A FACT!!!!!!!!!!

Please show me where I said you don't need to parent them at all. My mother still parents me from a different continent at almost 48 years old. She doesn't punish me by taking my phone away, which is what you're trying to do. Just idiotic and purposefully obtuse.

Adults do not need parenting.

Are 18 year olds and almost 48 years olds the same?

You're an idiot.

You’re more of an idiot and emotionally stunted and immature to think that you as an almost 48 year old are the same as a teenage high school little child.

That is not what I said. But it's not surprising that someone who can't grasp that 18 year olds are legally adutls also can't grasp something else.

You continue to dodge the real question. We’re not talking about legality.

You're not because you can't grasp that your 18 year old is an adult. The rest of us are able to grasp basic facts.

You haven’t shown me any evidence.

HAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAA https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/legal_age

Okay. It seems like the term “adult” is used incorrectly in society. It shouldn’t be used as a marker for when you are given more rights in society. That does not mean that person is an actual adult, it’s old fashioned, arbitrary, and needs to change. Science agrees with me. An adult is a fully mature and grown person, not someone who can do xxx due to some person in history deciding that’s old enough. It might’ve been old enough then, but not now in 2026. And teenagers were always children anyway, now and 500 years ago. Law means nothing. I’m surprised my the amount of people who truly think children can be adults. How sad and awful for these children to be raised by people like this.

Who gets to decide when they are adults?

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Why did this thread devolved into a weird legal debate?




OP, you should first check if your child is under the weather or stressed out, and needs more rest. Maybe they have low-key inattentive ADHD and tend to forget less-preferred chores, but they won't get better with punishment since it's a neurotransmitter problem - unfortunately they will need more reminders (one of my kids is like this). I wouldn't automatically give a punishment, that's a rather autocratic way to parent.

Because there are kids posting. Just ignore them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:



Why did this thread devolved into a weird legal debate?




OP, you should first check if your child is under the weather or stressed out, and needs more rest. Maybe they have low-key inattentive ADHD and tend to forget less-preferred chores, but they won't get better with punishment since it's a neurotransmitter problem - unfortunately they will need more reminders (one of my kids is like this). I wouldn't automatically give a punishment, that's a rather autocratic way to parent.

Because there are kids posting. Just ignore them.

Was that supposed to be clever?