Can older men really attract younger women?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


It has never been so easy for men to be impressive and yet?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


He's 6'3 and conventionally attractive, thank you for the hidden shortness hint though. Despite being a 6'3 conventionally attractive former competitive athlete and straight A engineering student he never had a relationship. Women in 20s don't compete for anyone. They have multiple choices among young professional men so they don't even look at 19 yo students who are not making their own money yet. I do get multiple requests from friends with daughters to introduce him to older 23-24 yo girls though, so I have no concerns about his dating prospects once he's employed.
That said, no, young professional women are not looking to be introduced to old divorced men.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


A short guy is 100x better than an old guy! Gross.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


A short guy is 100x better than an old guy! Gross.


Exactly, only ho's (who are a small population of college educated women) are looking to date 10+ older men in their 20s. There is a sugaring industry but I just don't see that in my son's college at all. Girls generally either don't date, or young students sleep around with each other in fraternities environment. But by at large college students are focused on education and rather socially isolated (14% frat membership in his college). It's not like majority of socially awkward girls would run dating old divorced dudes. They are trying to get introduced to promising men of their age group, as both boys and girls lack social skills to do it on their own. My son will be trying to date online he's too shy to approach attractive girls in real life.
But there are plenty of young promising men his age who want to have a stable GF in their 20s.
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


He's 6'3 and conventionally attractive, thank you for the hidden shortness hint though. Despite being a 6'3 conventionally attractive former competitive athlete and straight A engineering student he never had a relationship. Women in 20s don't compete for anyone. They have multiple choices among young professional men so they don't even look at 19 yo students who are not making their own money yet. I do get multiple requests from friends with daughters to introduce him to older 23-24 yo girls though, so I have no concerns about his dating prospects once he's employed.
That said, no, young professional women are not looking to be introduced to old divorced men.


They may not be looking but they sure find themselves with older men a lot.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


He's 6'3 and conventionally attractive, thank you for the hidden shortness hint though. Despite being a 6'3 conventionally attractive former competitive athlete and straight A engineering student he never had a relationship. Women in 20s don't compete for anyone. They have multiple choices among young professional men so they don't even look at 19 yo students who are not making their own money yet. I do get multiple requests from friends with daughters to introduce him to older 23-24 yo girls though, so I have no concerns about his dating prospects once he's employed.
That said, no, young professional women are not looking to be introduced to old divorced men.


They may not be looking but they sure find themselves with older men a lot.


Statistically only 11% of mid 20s women date older men. The percentage of college student women dating much older is even lower. E.g.over 90% of younger women do not date older men. This is absolute majority so not sure what the argument is here
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


A short guy is 100x better than an old guy! Gross.


I guess all these old men trying to date much younger women don’t understand it’s not just gross. It’s inherently predatory. Being a mom to 19 yo son, I know how much young men and women struggle with socialization, body image, finding their place in life. Know how trusting and naive they are. I would hate to see some old woman trying to insert herself in my sons life under a pretext of “temporary financial help”, or sexually perverting him.
Old men think that older women are somehow envious of them dating these young women. In reality I feel bad for these women who waste their time on some perv who is damaging her for life.
Anonymous
Of course. I dated a 53 year old man when I was 19. He was attractive and wealthy, but I didn’t date him for his money. We met at a club in NYC, hit it off immediately, and started seeing each other.

He treated me extremely well. He was very respectul, and chill. We traveled, went to nice events and genuinely had fun. Yes, he bought me expensive gifts (jewelry, bags, etc.) that I kept after we broke up.

Beyond that, he actually made my life better. He encouraged me, helped me mature, introduced me to people, and even helped me network my way into an internship that mattered for my career.
I enjoyed his company, felt taken care of, and we did have genuine love for each other.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


He's 6'3 and conventionally attractive, thank you for the hidden shortness hint though. Despite being a 6'3 conventionally attractive former competitive athlete and straight A engineering student he never had a relationship. Women in 20s don't compete for anyone. They have multiple choices among young professional men so they don't even look at 19 yo students who are not making their own money yet. I do get multiple requests from friends with daughters to introduce him to older 23-24 yo girls though, so I have no concerns about his dating prospects once he's employed.
That said, no, young professional women are not looking to be introduced to old divorced men.


My 20 year old STEM college kid has zero problems dating other college women.

None of what you say makes any sense for his lack of a relationship unless he literally has zero spending money to even go on even a cheap date.

Very few women at my kid’s school are dating non-college guys.
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Anonymous wrote:Keep in mind that young women are also growing tired of young men. A lifetime of cheep dopamine has ruined young men. Whether its scrolling, video games or pron, their motivation to do anything other than seek cheep dopamine is very limited. Layer in vaping or weed and they can barely find the motivation to change out of their pajamas much less create a career with a liveable salary, commit to a relationship, want to support a family or even learn some interesting skill like music or foreign languages.

Older guys at least grew up in an analog era where you had hobbies that produced real interests and skills.


Maybe learn how to spell first. My 19yo son speaks 3 languages fluently. Yes, they learn differently but it doesn't mean young men have little to offer. A young mid 20s man making an early professional salary > early 40s man with 2 kids from a prior marriage making 500K salary.


Congrats on your son. I’m sure you’re aware he’s outstanding. That said, there’s only so many like him and women are competing for him (unless he’s under 6’ and stays earning a young professional salary too long). When they can’t find someone great like him one of the alternatives to fill the time are older guys. That way they can go on nice dates and have sex while they wait for guys like your son to reach an acceptable level of income.


A short guy is 100x better than an old guy! Gross.


I guess all these old men trying to date much younger women don’t understand it’s not just gross. It’s inherently predatory. Being a mom to 19 yo son, I know how much young men and women struggle with socialization, body image, finding their place in life. Know how trusting and naive they are. I would hate to see some old woman trying to insert herself in my sons life under a pretext of “temporary financial help”, or sexually perverting him.
Old men think that older women are somehow envious of them dating these young women. In reality I feel bad for these women who waste their time on some perv who is damaging her for life.


They know that, but they are takers.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Of course. I dated a 53 year old man when I was 19. He was attractive and wealthy, but I didn’t date him for his money. We met at a club in NYC, hit it off immediately, and started seeing each other.

He treated me extremely well. He was very respectul, and chill. We traveled, went to nice events and genuinely had fun. Yes, he bought me expensive gifts (jewelry, bags, etc.) that I kept after we broke up.

Beyond that, he actually made my life better. He encouraged me, helped me mature, introduced me to people, and even helped me network my way into an internship that mattered for my career.
I enjoyed his company, felt taken care of, and we did have genuine love for each other.


But you didn't date him for his money? This is one of the more extreme examples of a lack of self-awareness I've seen recently.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Yes. I’m 40 so and have since my teens been attracted to men 10-15 years older than I am. My former supervisor I had a huge crush on, he’s 54 now. I also think Andrew Huberman (50) is super attractive.

Of course, I find younger men handsome, but there’s something about the ruggedness of a slightly older man that really gets me going!

(That said, let’s acknowledge that most people just aren’t that attractive, and once the dewiness of youth wears off, especially so.)


I think Andrew Huberman (50) is hot, too, but he's within a reasonable age range for me, and he's rich, famous, ripped, articulate, interesting, etc. I'm in my early 40s, and he's the only 50+ year old man who comes to mind that I think is hot. I'm mostly attracted to men my own age, find men younger than me cute, and men more than 5 years older than me seem ancient. I'm fit and high-energy, and just not at all attracted to the look, smell, or energy of older men. They are generally a buzz kill, and even just 10 years older, they start to remind me of my parents. But, back to Andrew Huberman. Hot. Not a great reputation with women, but it's not like I'm ever going to date him, so he's a perfectly good celebrity crush.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Of course. I dated a 53 year old man when I was 19. He was attractive and wealthy, but I didn’t date him for his money. We met at a club in NYC, hit it off immediately, and started seeing each other.

He treated me extremely well. He was very respectul, and chill. We traveled, went to nice events and genuinely had fun. Yes, he bought me expensive gifts (jewelry, bags, etc.) that I kept after we broke up.

Beyond that, he actually made my life better. He encouraged me, helped me mature, introduced me to people, and even helped me network my way into an internship that mattered for my career.
I enjoyed his company, felt taken care of, and we did have genuine love for each other.


But you didn't date him for his money? This is one of the more extreme examples of a lack of self-awareness I've seen recently.


I didn’t know he was rich the night I met him, and he wasn’t flashy with his wealth, so I didn’t know about it until after we starsted dating. He was a good guy, I would’ve been attracted to him, whether he was wealthy or not.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Of course. I dated a 53 year old man when I was 19. He was attractive and wealthy, but I didn’t date him for his money. We met at a club in NYC, hit it off immediately, and started seeing each other.

He treated me extremely well. He was very respectul, and chill. We traveled, went to nice events and genuinely had fun. Yes, he bought me expensive gifts (jewelry, bags, etc.) that I kept after we broke up.

Beyond that, he actually made my life better. He encouraged me, helped me mature, introduced me to people, and even helped me network my way into an internship that mattered for my career.
I enjoyed his company, felt taken care of, and we did have genuine love for each other.


But you didn't date him for his money? This is one of the more extreme examples of a lack of self-awareness I've seen recently.


I didn’t know he was rich the night I met him, and he wasn’t flashy with his wealth, so I didn’t know about it until after we starsted dating. He was a good guy, I would’ve been attracted to him, whether he was wealthy or not.


Of course you didn’t know at first, but quickly realized it when he took you to a 5* restaurant and showed his place. 19 is crazy early to ho yourself out for bags and connections. Such a cheap commonly used explanation !

Maybe you would have done even better in life if you focused on your education instead. All these “connections” is just a noise and if you go into LTR with such type you’ll quickly realize it
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