Can older men really attract younger women?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here is a list of some women who are or we're still super hot in their fifties, based on photos and movies, in my opinion: Halle Berry, Viola Davis, Jennifer Lopez, Salma Hayek, Katie Couric, Tilda Swinton, Annie Lennox, Dolly Parton, Lucy Liu, Michelle Yeoh...

But photos don't tell anything close to the whole story. When you meet a woman in person, she can look beautiful without giving off an alluring or enticing sexual aura. A lot of post menopausal women (especially white women) look or seem a little dried out or masculine up close. There are some women who are still beautiful, who give you the sense that they are still having very strong sexual feelings, and who look and smell like someone great to have sex with. There aren't that many of these women in their fiftire and there are even less in their sixties. They do exist but many, many men want to be with them (at least for a while--they break a lot of hearts and also can get their hearts broken by handsome men who also have a lot of options). When it works out, it's great!

Over my many years after divorce, I've met more very attractive women in their thirties and forties who were super into me than women in their fifties. All those women on DCUM who say that women in their thirties and forties are mostly disgusted by men in their fifties and sixties are probably right, but that describes the majority of women in their thirties and forties, not all of them. All those people who say women in their fifties lose their sex drives and beauty are also probably right about many of them, but that doesn't describe all women in their fifties, and the hottest ones do very well when they date.

Did you try offering alternating paying for the dates to these 15-20 years younger women ? How did it go for you ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My wife was a model in her 20s when we met, and she was an absolute stunner. Twenty-five years later, after four kids, I love her more than ever, and we have so much history together. That being said, she is maybe one-hundredth as attractive as she was in her 20s when we first got married. Even my wife would admit that.

There are zero attractive women in their late 40's or 50s.

One hundredth?
I’m sure she looks the same just older.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My wife was a model in her 20s when we met, and she was an absolute stunner. Twenty-five years later, after four kids, I love her more than ever, and we have so much history together. That being said, she is maybe one-hundredth as attractive as she was in her 20s when we first got married. Even my wife would admit that.

There are zero attractive women in their late 40's or 50s.

One hundredth?
I’m sure she looks the same just older.

He’s awful. That poor wife.

[Anonymous]

It’s just you are bitter and upset about your wife losing her looks that drastically that you generalize that hidden resentment into all women.
People age at different pace. It depends on lifestyle, weight loss/gains, stress throughout life etc. Both men and women get less attractive with age. In fact, there are more overweight men after age 45 than women.
I went on dates with 40-50s men who looked sexually repulsive (big bellies, face jawline gone, partially bold). They all claimed to have dated younger women before, and when I asked about detail - indeed the men were essentially financing all expenses. Like, travel only paid by him, helped her get education, helped with rent etc.

If you look sexually repulsive but create a sense that you’ve got cash as a man, yes- younger women will be texting you

If you found these men sexually repulsive, why did you go on dates with them?

Poster, time to look in the mirror. Your post reeks of bitterness and the resentment you have toward men. Hating one-half of the world's population is no way to live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

It’s just you are bitter and upset about your wife losing her looks that drastically that you generalize that hidden resentment into all women.
People age at different pace. It depends on lifestyle, weight loss/gains, stress throughout life etc. Both men and women get less attractive with age. In fact, there are more overweight men after age 45 than women.
I went on dates with 40-50s men who looked sexually repulsive (big bellies, face jawline gone, partially bold). They all claimed to have dated younger women before, and when I asked about detail - indeed the men were essentially financing all expenses. Like, travel only paid by him, helped her get education, helped with rent etc.

If you look sexually repulsive but create a sense that you’ve got cash as a man, yes- younger women will be texting you

If you found these men sexually repulsive, why did you go on dates with them?

Poster, time to look in the mirror. Your post reeks of bitterness and the resentment you have toward men. Hating one-half of the world's population is no way to live.

Most men publish dated photos (10-15 years off). I do try to have video dates before meeting but again, men don’t like those

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is a list of some women who are or we're still super hot in their fifties, based on photos and movies, in my opinion: Halle Berry, Viola Davis, Jennifer Lopez, Salma Hayek, Katie Couric, Tilda Swinton, Annie Lennox, Dolly Parton, Lucy Liu, Michelle Yeoh...

But photos don't tell anything close to the whole story. When you meet a woman in person, she can look beautiful without giving off an alluring or enticing sexual aura. A lot of post menopausal women (especially white women) look or seem a little dried out or masculine up close. There are some women who are still beautiful, who give you the sense that they are still having very strong sexual feelings, and who look and smell like someone great to have sex with. There aren't that many of these women in their fiftire and there are even less in their sixties. They do exist but many, many men want to be with them (at least for a while--they break a lot of hearts and also can get their hearts broken by handsome men who also have a lot of options). When it works out, it's great!

Over my many years after divorce, I've met more very attractive women in their thirties and forties who were super into me than women in their fifties. All those women on DCUM who say that women in their thirties and forties are mostly disgusted by men in their fifties and sixties are probably right, but that describes the majority of women in their thirties and forties, not all of them. All those people who say women in their fifties lose their sex drives and beauty are also probably right about many of them, but that doesn't describe all women in their fifties, and the hottest ones do very well when they date.

Did you try offering alternating paying for the dates to these 15-20 years younger women ? How did it go for you ?

Whether dating a woman my own age or younger, I pay for nearly all dates. Being a successful man definitely helps, even when dating successful women. Many successful women of all ages lose attraction if they find out a man is struggling with money issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Here is a list of some women who are or we're still super hot in their fifties, based on photos and movies, in my opinion: Halle Berry, Viola Davis, Jennifer Lopez, Salma Hayek, Katie Couric, Tilda Swinton, Annie Lennox, Dolly Parton, Lucy Liu, Michelle Yeoh...

But photos don't tell anything close to the whole story. When you meet a woman in person, she can look beautiful without giving off an alluring or enticing sexual aura. A lot of post menopausal women (especially white women) look or seem a little dried out or masculine up close. There are some women who are still beautiful, who give you the sense that they are still having very strong sexual feelings, and who look and smell like someone great to have sex with. There aren't that many of these women in their fiftire and there are even less in their sixties. They do exist but many, many men want to be with them (at least for a while--they break a lot of hearts and also can get their hearts broken by handsome men who also have a lot of options). When it works out, it's great!

Over my many years after divorce, I've met more very attractive women in their thirties and forties who were super into me than women in their fifties. All those women on DCUM who say that women in their thirties and forties are mostly disgusted by men in their fifties and sixties are probably right, but that describes the majority of women in their thirties and forties, not all of them. All those people who say women in their fifties lose their sex drives and beauty are also probably right about many of them, but that doesn't describe all women in their fifties, and the hottest ones do very well when they date.

Did you try offering alternating paying for the dates to these 15-20 years younger women ? How did it go for you ?

Whether dating a woman my own age or younger, I pay for nearly all dates. Being a successful man definitely helps, even when dating successful women. Many successful women of all ages lose attraction if they find out a man is struggling with money issues.

Expecting reciprocity is not the same as having money issue. So if you quit asking women out after, let’s say, 3 dates organized by you, and wait for them to come up with dates ideas - do you think any women would come back to offer you dates ideas ? Organize any dates themselves, even inexpensive ones ? If she’s successful and attracted, that shouldn’t be an issue if she’s also cultured and understands relationships are not only one way game.

I think it’s wrong when men choose organizing and paying for all dates. It creates a negative selection (eg only women who are transactional )

[Anonymous]

If you found these men sexually repulsive, why did you go on dates with them?

Poster, time to look in the mirror. Your post reeks of bitterness and the resentment you have toward men. Hating one-half of the world's population is no way to live.

Most men publish dated photos (10-15 years off). I do try to have video dates before meeting but again, men don’t like those

Many women also publish dated photos.

Do your due diligence. Check to make sure that at least some of the person's photos are recent or can be tied to social media (such as Facebook) your can review.

Hint: If they do not want you to see them before the date, there is a reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If you found these men sexually repulsive, why did you go on dates with them?

Poster, time to look in the mirror. Your post reeks of bitterness and the resentment you have toward men. Hating one-half of the world's population is no way to live.

Most men publish dated photos (10-15 years off). I do try to have video dates before meeting but again, men don’t like those

Many women also publish dated photos.

Do your due diligence. Check to make sure that at least some of the person's photos are recent or can be tied to social media (such as Facebook) your can review.

Hint: If they do not want you to see them before the date, there is a reason.

I know, and already adjusted my screening to that. Also many women on OLD who look like 60s to me claim they are 40s. Maybe that’s why men think women look so awful after turning 40.

But returning to my point, all these unattractive men were banking their much younger ex GFs. I just don’t feel sorry for them when they complain at being “used” by these younger ladies. You chose it yourself, dude- take some responsibility and be realistic about your looks. Don’t lie on profile.

[Anonymous]

I know, and already adjusted my screening to that. Also many women on OLD who look like 60s to me claim they are 40s. Maybe that’s why men think women look so awful after turning 40.

But returning to my point, all these unattractive men were banking their much younger ex GFs. I just don’t feel sorry for them when they complain at being “used” by these younger ladies. You chose it yourself, dude- take some responsibility and be realistic about your looks. Don’t lie on profile.

Preach, sister, and spit the truth.

I am a divorced man in my mid-50s, and your reply has many important points regarding dating at my age.

First, there are a HUGE number of very attractive women in their 50s (and in their 60s, 40s, etc.) on OLD. Men should not let their reach exceed their grasp.

And by that I mean men should adjust their targets to what they can reasonably achieve. Whenever I hear another man complain about the "lack of attractive women", I know what he is really saying is "I cannot land the women I believe I should be landing." The dating market dictates what we can achieve. Work with what you've got, and improve what you can.

Next, I always pay for dates. From start to finish. I consider a date an invitation to an event that I am hosting. If I ever found myself hosting a woman who seems intent on spending my money simply to do so (and I have not seen any hint of this yet), I would move on, knowing she was not right for me. By extension, I already had much younger women in my life whom I supported 100%. They were my daughters.

Outside of them, I would never enjoy supporting someone in return for any type of attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I know, and already adjusted my screening to that. Also many women on OLD who look like 60s to me claim they are 40s. Maybe that’s why men think women look so awful after turning 40.

But returning to my point, all these unattractive men were banking their much younger ex GFs. I just don’t feel sorry for them when they complain at being “used” by these younger ladies. You chose it yourself, dude- take some responsibility and be realistic about your looks. Don’t lie on profile.

Preach, sister, and spit the truth.

I am a divorced man in my mid-50s, and your reply has many important points regarding dating at my age.

First, there are a HUGE number of very attractive women in their 50s (and in their 60s, 40s, etc.) on OLD. Men should not let their reach exceed their grasp.

And by that I mean men should adjust their targets to what they can reasonably achieve. Whenever I hear another man complain about the "lack of attractive women", I know what he is really saying is "I cannot land the women I believe I should be landing." The dating market dictates what we can achieve. Work with what you've got, and improve what you can.

Next, I always pay for dates. From start to finish. I consider a date an invitation to an event that I am hosting. If I ever found myself hosting a woman who seems intent on spending my money simply to do so (and I have not seen any hint of this yet), I would move on, knowing she was not right for me. By extension, I already had much younger women in my life whom I supported 100%. They were my daughters.

Outside of them, I would never enjoy supporting someone in return for any type of attention.

Most men are not able to read into the room like you do. They actually allow partners with very large attractiveness and age gap “use “ them fully supporting these women.
But my point is - the young women aren’t really using them. It’s a transactional relationship : looks in exchange for money.

I don’t feel sorry when men complain.

And yes I see many attractive women in 50s in my circle so I don’t know what these PP mean when they say there are no attractive women over age 40 .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's all about money OP.

No. I dated women half my age between marriages. At one time there was a stigma that casual sex was immoral. That is gone. Many young women date broadly, out of impulse, curiosity, and convenience. There is attraction, even if it is not the basis for a long-term relationship.

Perhaps 10%-20% women in their twenties are specifically attracted to older men who are fit, tall enough, with a full head of hair. It is not about money. It is about having your shit together. An older man takes charge, makes specific plans, stays in touch, shows up with a functioning car, has reservations, and pays for convenient parking. It all flows smoothly so the girl and relax and enjoy. Younger men are inexperienced and disorganized. They suggest "hanging out" and don't follow up. It is a relief to have an older man take responsibility and go on a "real" date.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all about money OP.

No. I dated women half my age between marriages. At one time there was a stigma that casual sex was immoral. That is gone. Many young women date broadly, out of impulse, curiosity, and convenience. There is attraction, even if it is not the basis for a long-term relationship.

Perhaps 10%-20% women in their twenties are specifically attracted to older men who are fit, tall enough, with a full head of hair. It is not about money. It is about having your shit together. An older man takes charge, makes specific plans, stays in touch, shows up with a functioning car, has reservations, and pays for convenient parking. It all flows smoothly so the girl and relax and enjoy. Younger men are inexperienced and disorganized. They suggest "hanging out" and don't follow up. It is a relief to have an older man take responsibility and go on a "real" date.

Ya, but if you then ask your 20-something date to split the bill, you won't be seeing her again. It's not just that you have your shit together - she's dating you because she sees potential for a soft life provided by you. Tall doesn't matter as much as some men think. If you were a fit fifty-year-old dirtbag climber living out of your van, or a fit ski patroller living in a studio apartment, twenty-year-olds would not date you, because you have nothing to offer them.

[Anonymous]

Can older men attract younger women? No.

Can money attract younger women? Yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's all about money OP.

No. I dated women half my age between marriages. At one time there was a stigma that casual sex was immoral. That is gone. Many young women date broadly, out of impulse, curiosity, and convenience. There is attraction, even if it is not the basis for a long-term relationship.

Perhaps 10%-20% women in their twenties are specifically attracted to older men who are fit, tall enough, with a full head of hair. It is not about money. It is about having your shit together. An older man takes charge, makes specific plans, stays in touch, shows up with a functioning car, has reservations, and pays for convenient parking. It all flows smoothly so the girl and relax and enjoy. Younger men are inexperienced and disorganized. They suggest "hanging out" and don't follow up. It is a relief to have an older man take responsibility and go on a "real" date.

Ya, but if you then ask your 20-something date to split the bill, you won't be seeing her again. It's not just that you have your shit together - she's dating you because she sees potential for a soft life provided by you. Tall doesn't matter as much as some men think. If you were a fit fifty-year-old dirtbag climber living out of your van, or a fit ski patroller living in a studio apartment, twenty-year-olds would not date you, because you have nothing to offer them.

Well, few women would be comfortable splitting the bill. I wouldn’t and I’m 48. But if he expected any of these 20s women to reciprocate (eg organize something herself for him, or even get a sex toy), he’ll get zero . It’s one way relationships . He’s not setting himself up for a success but will always just used for the benefits he provides.