NYP reports Westland teaching trans lessons, including breast binding

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Personally I’d rather them focus on academics which is the point of school. Kids who need or want this can lean it at home.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I’d rather them focus on academics which is the point of school. Kids who need or want this can lean it at home.

How is this not academics? To me this is clearly history, biology, sociology, psychology, political science…

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Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

The entire tip about breast binding in that video was "I don't do it much. Don't do it too much, especially when exercising." The speaker didn't even answer the question "how do I bind?"

Again, you are selectively quoting to minimize. The question FLASHED on the screen is "How do I bind properly?"

The influencer then TEASES a future episode where she go into more depth on how to bind properly. And then immediately talks about how they don't bind much, particularly when exercising, because binding improperly restricts breathing.

So this influencer is simulataneously:

- Planting the seed that binding is "normal" in the form of flashing the question and promising and more in-depth tutorial in a future episode
- Acknowledging the physical risks and dangers of the practice as it can restrict breathing if not done properly

Given all of those facts, it's very easy to see why many parents would say this is not an appropriate topic or concept to be putting in front of 11 or 12 year olds, who will undoubtedly be curious and either attempt it on their own or seek out more information on how to do binding properly.

That you refuse to see why this is an issue just speaks to the blinders that you've chosen to put on your allegiance to the LGBTQ agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I’d rather them focus on academics which is the point of school. Kids who need or want this can lean it at home.

How is this not academics? To me this is clearly history, biology, sociology, psychology, political science…

The biology part not so much. But definitely quite the lesson on sociology, psychology and political science for sure!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

There was a person who said her kids go to the school and she didn’t know about the lesson to opt out.

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THERE WAS NO BREAST-BINDING TALK AT WESTLAND.

The person invited to talk has explained how to bind one's breasts at different meetings, BUT NOT DURING THE PRESENTATION AT WESTLAND (and presumably not in any public middle school).

The article on Fox is misleading because the title is an outright lie, and the body of the article tries to make people believe the breast-binding lesson happened at Westland, when it did not. This is another talk that the presenter gives on other occasions, but not this one.

When you take out the topic of breast-binding, the rest of the presentation is very innocuous.

I am shocked . . . SHOCKED . . . that there is gambling in this establishment.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

So, PP, which one is it?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ll never get why republicans are so afraid of people having different beliefs and lifestyles.

Why do you think people objecting are republicans? I am neither a democrat or a republican. I am more in the middle.
Those lessons should be electives for those kids that are interested. I want MCPS to spend time and resources on math, science, and English.

[Anonymous]

Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

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Anonymous wrote:Personally I’d rather them focus on academics which is the point of school. Kids who need or want this can lean it at home.

How is this not academics? To me this is clearly history, biology, sociology, psychology, political science…

Really? It may be appropriate for your kids as you don’t want to teach them but not all kids are trans and this is a parenting issue not a school issue.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

It’s important to the teachers and admin.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

Wow. And so the latest twist in the LGBTQ agenda emerges.

We should encourage girls to be ok with suppressing any visibility of the natural, female body.

If that isn't misogynistic, I don't know what is.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

I'd put it the other way. Why should girls whose bodies are still developing be sent a message that maybe something needs to be changed with their body? At 11-12 some girls have breasts and some barely do. It's all in flux and IMO not the time to be pushed a message that it's possible the sex you were assigned at birth might not be the right one. Have these info sessions in high school if you must do them.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

I'd put it the other way. Why should girls whose bodies are still developing be sent a message that maybe something needs to be changed with their body? At 11-12 some girls have breasts and some barely do. It's all in flux and IMO not the time to be pushed a message that it's possible the sex you were assigned at birth might not be the right one. Have these info sessions in high school if you must do them.

Once again, there were no binding lessons, and the only message about binding was "probably don't do it."

If this lesson upsets you, opt out. This constant goalpost moving is getting tiring. You have the option to remove your child from the classroom if you don't like the lesson. Exercise it.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

I'd put it the other way. Why should girls whose bodies are still developing be sent a message that maybe something needs to be changed with their body? At 11-12 some girls have breasts and some barely do. It's all in flux and IMO not the time to be pushed a message that it's possible the sex you were assigned at birth might not be the right one. Have these info sessions in high school if you must do them.

Once again, there were no binding lessons, and the only message about binding was "probably don't do it."

If this lesson upsets you, opt out. This constant goalpost moving is getting tiring. You have the option to remove your child from the classroom if you don't like the lesson. Exercise it.

Again, you are lying. The influencer LITERALLY said they would have a follow-up episode with MORE DETAILS on how to bind coming soon. The influencer did say they don't bind often and that you need to do it in a safe manner, but they DID NOT advise young girls to "probably don't do it." On the contrary, the influencer, "More on that later." Stop lying.