NYP reports Westland teaching trans lessons, including breast binding

[Anonymous]

Don't post irreslonsible stuff like this. It will make the school a target for some right wing nut job and all our kids are in danger

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't post irreslonsible stuff like this. It will make the school a target for some right wing nut job and all our kids are in danger

My kids are at Westland. It’s a good school. You can opt your kid out if you don’t want your kid to participate but don’t make my kids a target of crazies who hate lgbt people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't post irreslonsible stuff like this. It will make the school a target for some right wing nut job and all our kids are in danger

My kids are at Westland. It’s a good school. You can opt your kid out if you don’t want your kid to participate but don’t make my kids a target of crazies who hate lgbt people.

PP and my kid is too. I don't want to opt out. I don't have trans-panic. I meant the NYP and the OP should not post inflammatory, false information that could potentially trigger some idiot to go to pur kids' schools and cause harm to them.

[Anonymous]

Leaving bye.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Gender and sex are not and have never been synonymous. That's literally why there are different words! Just because you only learned the difference last month does not make this a new concept - it's just one you didn't know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Puts mcps on Trump’s radar.

[Anonymous]

I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Gender and sex are not and have never been synonymous. That's literally why there are different words! Just because you only learned the difference last month does not make this a new concept - it's just one you didn't know.

Please argue with yourself.

From the Oxford English dictionary:

https://www.oed.com/dictionary/gender_n?tab=meaning_and_use&tl=true#3045140

gen. Males or females viewed as a group; = sex n.1 1. Also: the property or fact of belonging to one of these groups.
Originally extended from the grammatical use at sense 1 (sometimes humorously), as also in Anglo-Norman and Old French. In the 20th cent., as sex came increasingly to mean sexual intercourse (see sex n.1 4b), gender began to replace it (in early use euphemistically) as the usual word for the biological grouping of males and females. It is now often merged with or coloured by sense 3b.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Puts mcps on Trump’s radar.

Trump cannot hold a thought for longer than 15 seconds at a time, and MCPS was already on the radar of the bigots in his Administration.

I am not interested in having my kids' education dictated by what may or may not draw the attention of the worst people in America. If MCPS starts teaching defensively, to avoid the notice of the Administration, our kids' education will suffer enormously as we will lose any truthful discussion of US history, not to mention much of the best literature published in the last century. No thank you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

The entire tip about breast binding in that video was "I don't do it much. Don't do it too much, especially when exercising." The speaker didn't even answer the question "how do I bind?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Puts mcps on Trump’s radar.

Trump cannot hold a thought for longer than 15 seconds at a time, and MCPS was already on the radar of the bigots in his Administration.

I am not interested in having my kids' education dictated by what may or may not draw the attention of the worst people in America. If MCPS starts teaching defensively, to avoid the notice of the Administration, our kids' education will suffer enormously as we will lose any truthful discussion of US history, not to mention much of the best literature published in the last century. No thank you.

MCPs already dropped 90% of literature from the curriculum, to focus on intellectuallly accessible material and anti-capitalist materials.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

The entire tip about breast binding in that video was "I don't do it much. Don't do it too much, especially when exercising." The speaker didn't even answer the question "how do I bind?"

THANK YOU. I hate the lying and gaslighting that is going on in this thread, and appreciate you bringing the actual facts.

[Anonymous]

I’ll never get why republicans are so afraid of people having different beliefs and lifestyles.