NYP reports Westland teaching trans lessons, including breast binding

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Anonymous wrote:Why is it important for tweens and teens to have publicly visible breast lumps?

I'd put it the other way. Why should girls whose bodies are still developing be sent a message that maybe something needs to be changed with their body? At 11-12 some girls have breasts and some barely do. It's all in flux and IMO not the time to be pushed a message that it's possible the sex you were assigned at birth might not be the right one. Have these info sessions in high school if you must do them.

Once again, there were no binding lessons, and the only message about binding was "probably don't do it."

If this lesson upsets you, opt out. This constant goalpost moving is getting tiring. You have the option to remove your child from the classroom if you don't like the lesson. Exercise it.

I am upset that MCPS is wasting finite recourses on something that is not needed by 99% population. Even if i opt out and 300 other families will opt out, MCPS will still have to pay the vendor influencer.

[Anonymous]

That's our DD's school--looks like we're famous.

This is a controversial topic that should stay out of schools. Public schools serve all families including more conservative ones.

I don't think this is appropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

I can’t believe anyone thinks that video belongs in a school setting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’ll never get why republicans are so afraid of people having different beliefs and lifestyles.

+1000. Needing everyone else to agree with you is a sogn of profound insecurity. Own your beliefs proudly - just don't expect them to be validated everywhere you or your kids go.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't post irreslonsible stuff like this. It will make the school a target for some right wing nut job and all our kids are in danger

My kids are at Westland. It’s a good school. You can opt your kid out if you don’t want your kid to participate but don’t make my kids a target of crazies who hate lgbt people.

PP and my kid is too. I don't want to opt out. I don't have trans-panic. I meant the NYP and the OP should not post inflammatory, false information that could potentially trigger some idiot to go to pur kids' schools and cause harm to them.

+100% This is clickbait designed to inflame, when the reality was likely far more nuanced. And we have people like the Comet Pizza crazy who think everything they read on the internet is true and who carry guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

I can’t believe anyone thinks that video belongs in a school setting.

It absolutely was not appropriate for school. Even if you WANT to instruct on the concepts of trans ideology or nonbinary identities, MCPS should be using ACADEMIC, vetted resources. Not just grabbing some random influencer's garbage from YouTube and presenting it as educational material.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

I can’t believe anyone thinks that video belongs in a school setting.

It absolutely was not appropriate for school. Even if you WANT to instruct on the concepts of trans ideology or nonbinary identities, MCPS should be using ACADEMIC, vetted resources. Not just grabbing some random influencer's garbage from YouTube and presenting it as educational material.

Yes, or even if you use that influencer's videos, they have ones that are like "How to be Respectful of a Non-Binary Person." That's fine, IMO. But including the "Tips on BEING Non-Binary" video is such a bone-headed decision for someone in a public school to make in 2025.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think I’m opting my kids out of any and all gay LGBT lessons. Too risky to have the trans stuff seep in. This is what it has come too.

Come on parents. Let’s call them!

Mcps isn’t actually giving parents an opportunity to opt out though.

You can always opt out by sending your kids to parochial school.

I'd love to opt out of my piggy back and property taxes paying for this! No wonder colleges and universities have to offer remedial coursework for students these days, even the top colleges. Let's get back to teaching core courses!

[Anonymous]

I have to wonder if some of these school leaders are TRYING to get MCPS vilified.

If not, we have some truly dumb or blinded by ideology people in our school buildings.

And I say this as a diehard liberal, with a rainbow flag bumper sticker, who believed MCPS was right in the Supreme Court case.

Doesn’t anyone train these school leaders to think about how their slides or letter will look on the front page of the Washington Post? Or the New York Post for that matter?

[Anonymous]

How many people are posting on this thread? I am going with two, maximum.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have to wonder if some of these school leaders are TRYING to get MCPS vilified.

If not, we have some truly dumb or blinded by ideology people in our school buildings.

And I say this as a diehard liberal, with a rainbow flag bumper sticker, who believed MCPS was right in the Supreme Court case.

Doesn’t anyone train these school leaders to think about how their slides or letter will look on the front page of the Washington Post? Or the New York Post for that matter?

Or to the parents of the children subjected to this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think the OP really illustrates the true agenda of right-wing bigots.

There was no breast binding lesson at Westland.

The lesson that did exist was available to opt out.

A year ago, bigots were telling us that they don't care what other kids are taught, they just want the ability to opt out for their own kids.

Now they are revealing their true face - it's not enough to offer an opt out. They want trans and gender nonconforming folks erased from the curriculum, and preferably from society as a whole.

Those, like yourself, who keep saying breast binding was not in the lesson are lying.

There was a video in question from nonbinary influencer Laurenzo, that did include "Tips on binding." Now since kids had a choice of WHICH video to watch during that portion of the lesson, maybe not every kid saw that video. But to say that breast binding was not part of the lesson is a lie.

Tip 7, in this video, which was included in the Westland lesson is all about how to bind your chest.

I can’t believe anyone thinks that video belongs in a school setting.

It absolutely was not appropriate for school. Even if you WANT to instruct on the concepts of trans ideology or nonbinary identities, MCPS should be using ACADEMIC, vetted resources. Not just grabbing some random influencer's garbage from YouTube and presenting it as educational material.

Yes, or even if you use that influencer's videos, they have ones that are like "How to be Respectful of a Non-Binary Person." That's fine, IMO. But including the "Tips on BEING Non-Binary" video is such a bone-headed decision for someone in a public school to make in 2025.

+1

This non-sence does not belong in school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did you go through the slideshow linked in the news story? It’s mostly a lesson about how to come out and how to be nonbinary versus how to be an ally. One of the slides has links to 10 different videos and asks students to watch 1. Almost all of the videos are nonbinary people who were assigned female at birth. There is a real social contagion to this and I think in a few years people will be ashamed when they look back at what kids were exposed to.

Also, as a teacher there is no way you could get through these slides in one advisory period. Gender is already covered in health classes. Kids are SO over these lessons shoved in their face all the time

Nonbinary is a social construct

Gender is, you mean.

Nonbinary simply means something other than X or Y.

No. Gender, for a long time, was synonymous with sex.

There's now an active movement in the LGBTQ community to ARGUE that gender is a social construct and that it is completely divorced from biological sex.

However, not everyone is on board with this theory and many Americans feel differently and are pushing back, which is why lessons like this one at Westland, which assumes the more nascent and controversial viewpoint on gender/sex gets backlash and pushback once it makes the news.

Only in your puny little brain. Look, I understand that cognitive dissonance is hard, but the two terms were never synonymous or interchangeable.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love the way that any discussion of what people disagree with is construed as indoctrination, recruitment, or coercion.

You are the only one to use those words.

Normalization is a better term.

What's wrong with treating normal things as normal? Is leaning in on making vulnerable 11-13 year olds feel abnormal really the hill you want to die on here? You guys really don't care how many kids' mental health you sacrifice in your attempt to keep your own precious kids from being exposed to things that make you uncomfortable because you don't personally understand them (spoiler alert: you can't stop it, your kids will find out anyway.)

Again, the nonbinary concept is an emerging, radical idea in gender ideology. It is not yet seen as “normal,” though you and your allies are obviously working hard to make it so.

The concept of nonbinary literally goes back to Mesopotamian times. In more modern times, it can be traced back to the Women's Liberation Movement of the 1960s. That's literally half a century ago. I understand that you're a little slow on the uptake and are struggling with some cognitive dissonance, but just because these are new ideas to *you* doesn't mean they haven't been around for a very, very long time.

You may have a seat now and stop posting. Your feelings and opinions are about this are not valid. Please and thank you.

[Anonymous]

Some ask Winsome Sears how campaigning on schools and trans stuff is a political winner.